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  • Emmyfan
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    I have been watching Seinfeld reruns lately and I do remember the shock when Michael Richards beat David Hyde Pierce for Supporting Actor in a Comedy at the Emmys.

    Michael Richards as Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld (Episodes: “The Sniffing Accountant” + “The Opposite”) – WINNER

    Jason Alexander as George Costanza on Seinfeld (Episodes: “The Hamptons” + “The Opposite”)

    David Hyde Pierce as Dr. Niles Crane on Frasier (Episodes: “A Mid-Winter Night’s Dream” + “Author, Author”)

    Rip Torn as Arthur on The Larry Sanders Show (Episodes: “The List” + “Larry’s Birthday”)

    Jerry Van Dyke as Luther Van Dam on Coach (Episodes: “Piece o’ Cake” + “Coach for a Day”, Part 2)

    Jason Alexander was very good in The Opposite and was stronger than Michael Richards in that episode. I wonder if Jason Alexander would have won if submitted the episode called “The Marine Biologist” where he has that hilarious scene at the end when he tells how he saved the whale instead of “The Hamptons”

    I do think Jason Alexander deserved to win an Emmy for Seinfeld. I also know that Frasier steamrolled a lot of shows between 1994-1998 at the Emmys. Are there categories do you think Seinfeld should have won and if so, which categories?

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    I wanted to comment on this yesterday but it was lit up red for some reason and I couldn’t click on it? Never seen that before

    Something that really shocks me when going through old critics best of lists in the 90s, and even with some older critics today, is that they hated Seinfeld, which feels so strange considering the overwhelming critical support for Curb, how the show is considered a classic now, and even TV Guide having it beat out I Love Lucy for best tv show ever back in 2000.

    I don’t totally understand why that is, but my best theory is that the critical landscape was just wildly different in a pre-Sopranos/HBO/prestige world. I don’t know if critics have much influence on the emmys, but I wonder if that has anything to do with why Seinfeld won so little compared to its massive cultural influence.

    It has been a while since I’ve seen Seinfeld, and this may feel strange to say but I feel like Seinfeld was a bit challenging for a sitcom in the 90s. More than it being a show about nothing, it’s a show about four people who are selfish, mean-spirited, cruel, etc etc when people were more used to a sitcom where they could relax and enjoy the antics of some lovable misfits.

    All in the Family had Archie Bunker, but it also had every other good hearted character opposing him (and there’s the political aspect of Archie’s character that of course means conservatives aren’t even going to see him as the villain). The characters in Cheers have flaws, but generally do kind things and look out for each other. I wonder if the mean spirited nature of Seinfeld turned critics and the emmys off despite audiences being excited for the change of pace.

    Also, personally, I’d love to say that Seinfeld should’ve won way more awards but I just haven’t seen any of its competitors. I do think Jason Alexander’s performance in Seinfeld was amazing and award worthy

    Edit: Just want to note that I don’t have a great source on critics disliking Seinfeld beyond Entertainment Weekly and Time Magazine never listing it on their top 10, except I can’t seem to track down the lists I saw a few years ago, but I do know Seinfeld was never listed as their number 1 of the year. Plus The Larry Sanders Show was incredibly critically acclaimed and from what I understand that lead was just as amoral as the Seinfeld characters, so I don’t know anymore. Take this with a grain of salt

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    I wanted to comment on this yesterday but it was lit up red for some reason and I couldn’t click on it? Never seen that before Something that really shocks me when going through old critics best of lists in the 90s, and even with some older critics today, is that they hated Seinfeld, which feels so strange considering the overwhelming critical support for Curb, how the show is considered a classic now, and even TV Guide having it beat out I Love Lucy for best tv show ever back in 2000. I don’t totally understand why that is, but my best theory is that the critical landscape was just wildly different in a pre-Sopranos/HBO/prestige world. I don’t know if critics have much influence on the emmys, but I wonder if that has anything to do with why Seinfeld won so little compared to its massive cultural influence.

    I think it just being a different landscape is right. It was very much workplace comedies and a few family comedies in that era.

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    Owl-Always-watching
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    Jason Alexander should of had one of Michael Richards Emmy. I believe reason he didn’t win was bc of how awful George Constanza was . Even compare to rest of characters

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    BrazilianDude
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    It is so weird how Jason never won an Emmy for his brilliant perfomance as George Costanza.
    Yeah, Richards was funny and did a lot of physical comedy, but Jason (together with Larry’s wrinting) gave us a very complex yet funny character.

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    It would have been nice if Jerry Stiller received more nominations and won an Emmy and if Estelle Harris were nominated and won an Emmy. They were hysterical as George’s parents and provided so much insight as to why George was the way he was.

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