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January 5, 2023 at 11:45 am #1205221783
I’ve always found it odd that the Golden Globes honor film writers and directors each year, but never TV writers and directors. What gives? To that point, the ceremony also celebrates film scores and songs, but not TV scores and songs. With so much great work being done on television (I’d argue, BETTER work than on the big screen), should the Globes add more TV categories?
ReplyJanuary 5, 2023 at 11:50 am #1205221789Yes.
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January 5, 2023 at 12:04 pm #1205221809I don’t expect this to be a popular opinion but I actually think it’s best where it stands right now. Whilst it would be nice to see television writing and directing receive more recognition I don’t think the Globes starting to hand out awards in those fields would really hope to bring awareness to shows like say their acting categories might do. On the film side the HFPA are already so name-checky and film-checky most of the time that all I imagine introducing television writing and directing awards would do would just give people like Ryan Murphy and David E. Kelley individual nominations for simply existing and shows like Ted Lasso, House of the Dragon, The Crown etc getting name-checked just because they’re top contenders.
It would just be a pointless exercise when you have industry bodies recognising these mediums much more organically.
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January 5, 2023 at 12:33 pm #1205221851I support the idea theoretically but I also think rewarding specific episodes of television (which is what it would have to be to honor writing/directing) doesn’t really fit with the vibe of the globes. It’s a goofy party and if they get too granular it would be even HARDER to take them seriously. Like would any of us really believe they’d even pay attention to who directed or wrote a specific episode of television? It would be asking too much of the audience lol.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 2:16 pm #1205221951Nope. Same reason critics groups shouldn’t have tech categories. There’s stuff only the people who work on those know and should vote for.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 2:42 pm #1205221992No way! Why are people so desperate for all award shows to be the same?
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 3:42 pm #1205222042Nope. Same reason critics groups shouldn’t have tech categories. There’s stuff only the people who work on those know and should vote for.
Exactly
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 3:54 pm #1205222053No way! Why are people so desperate for all award shows to be the same?
I don’t think it’s about wanting all awards shows to be the same. My initial reaction of “yes” was because I think directing and writing categories are interesting and just as deserving of recognition as acting, etc. I’m very obviously biased.
That being said, I do agree with the poster who discussed only having people who work in that field vote on those types of categories. There is merit to that for sure.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 4:46 pm #1205222070That being said, I do agree with the poster who discussed only having people who work in that field vote on those types of categories. There is merit to that for sure.
I think my concern in terms of the Globes is that it’s a bit too armchair expert-y, especially in the case of directing. The Globes are press, not critics, and directing is a technical area that isn’t necessarily something that I think should be judged by an emotional response.
I am slightly more open to writing (given HFPA are writers) but I am somewhat inclined to think I’d prefer both TV and film writing to be judged by people who work in the field first and foremost and have experience writing for that medium.
January 5, 2023 at 8:44 pm #1205222336I’m realizing I don’t know much about the HFPA, is it just a group of reporters? What gives them special insight into acting that they wouldn’t have into writing or directing?
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 10:44 pm #1205222393I’m realizing I don’t know much about the HFPA, is it just a group of reporters? What gives them special insight into acting that they wouldn’t have into writing or directing?
nothing.
but people will tune in to some degree for their fave tv actors. their fave tv directors/writers…very few.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 5, 2023 at 10:45 pm #1205222395I’m realizing I don’t know much about the HFPA, is it just a group of reporters? What gives them special insight into acting that they wouldn’t have into writing or directing?
This is perhaps a dismissive or wrong take, but I feel like with acting there is a higher proportion of the craft that can be judged based on someone’s emotional response to it, which doesn’t require someone to necessarily be an expert. Obviously how much a certain group weights that vs technical excellence differs, but one is neither right or wrong.
I don’t necessarily think press have any additional insight in to directing, and in terms of writing it’s more my opinion that short form writers tend to overstep the mark in offering their opinion on what works in a vastly different form they’ve never tackled. Some writers obviously have broader experience, but my understanding is that’s not usually the case for the HFPA (if you read their profiles).
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