August 8, 2020 at 10:07 am #1203634278
I really don’t want to see every show tackle COVID. Sometimes you just want to not think of it.
So late year filming. I believe this show takes awhile to film due to all the location filming. So probably won’t air in next year Emmy eligibility. They should film two seasons back to back .
where did Nicole Kidman mention BLL 3? Considering she has so many back to back limited series. Don’t see when she would have time.August 9, 2020 at 1:16 pm #1203635950
BLL3?! Dear god whyyyyyyyAugust 9, 2020 at 1:27 pm #1203635988This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.August 9, 2020 at 6:19 pm #1203636424
I really don’t want to see every show tackle COVID. Sometimes you just want to not think of it. So late year filming. I believe this show takes awhile to film due to all the location filming. So probably won’t air in next year Emmy eligibility. They should film two seasons back to back . where did Nicole Kidman mention BLL 3? Considering she has so many back to back limited series. Don’t see when she would have time.
There was an Emmy roundtable talk with Kidman, Blanchett, King, Washington, Oh, Jackman, Strong, etc. recently.. in it, she mentioned BLL3 could include it, but still no definitive plans about BLL3 I doubt…
Jackman mentioned on the talk that a lot of art that focuses on present-day issues typically ages better. I think he said this in reference to a movie made around the time of WWII that was not well received but is now very much respected, and it’s important that we have the perspective of the times reflected in our arts. But yeah, COVID could be a little much. It’s a little useless to discuss this in hypotheticals, I suppose. I’d need to see the product.
watch I May Destroy YouAugust 26, 2020 at 12:04 am #1203667946
Sarah Snook has confirmed today that the actors have been told the show will start shooting in mid November.
Hopefully it’s ready on time to sweep again next year.
How exciting. If that mid November shoot will go as planned, they might premiere by April (which is like the prime slot for HBO since it is before the Emmys deadline).
Twitter: @TheCineMikeAugust 26, 2020 at 1:21 am #1203667998
Strong mentioned in an actor’s roundtable interview that they’re likely incorporating COVID-19 into the storyline. Kidman mentioned wanting to do this with BLL3 too. Edit: Ah I see on the last page someone beat me to this.
Succession I can see, the show’s always been about satirizing absurdities of real life, as was also true for Jesse Armstrong’s work on Veep and The Thick Of It. Practically all S1 & 2 storylines are inspired by something that actually happened.
But how the hell, or rather why the hell, is BLL planning to incorporate the virus? It has one of the most self contained, isolated, heavily fictionalized and linear plots of any show nominated in the last couple of years. It would be like Jane Eyre trying to talk about the Gold Rush. I really hope they don’t go even further off the rails than they already have, S2 was such a mess. Is the original show-runner supposed to come back for S3?September 27, 2020 at 1:05 pm #1203738055
I’ve just came across Deadline’s interview with Jesse Armstrong post-Emmys which he is asked about the show’s plan for diversity. His answer is:
“The aim is necessary, overdue, cathartic when you see it happening. Our show is about a white family of billionaires, media moguls. There are some things we can do on the show and there some things we can’t. I think those ambitions you address over your career and over the number of things you work on. There are places where we can show what America looks like in our show, the broader picture of America, and there are places where frankly that would not be reflecting reality if we made our central world more diverse than the higher echelons of corporate America are. So, that’s a difficult path to tread, but it’s one to be honest of that world.”
Imagine thinking your show might be criticized for not reflecting the reality just because you chose to diversify your cast. I just searched for FOX Corp. board of directors and even they have two POC men.September 27, 2020 at 1:27 pm #1203738085
That argument has always been bullshit but frankly, what change is casting more people of colour bring when these people can’t give proper screentime and storylines to the already existing ones? And it feels it’ll driven more out of pandering and than an actual recognition of the problem anyway.September 27, 2020 at 1:42 pm #1203738104
That argument has always been bullshit but frankly, what change is casting more people of colour bring when these people can’t give proper screentime and storylines to the already existing ones? And it feels it’ll driven more out of pandering and than an actual recognition of the problem anyway.
What’s so ironic is that this show is marketed as a critique of rich white families. If corporate America controlled by these families are not diverse then why this show is not criticizing that?September 27, 2020 at 3:13 pm #1203738165
Imagine thinking your show might be criticized for not reflecting the reality just because you chose to diversify your cast. I just searched for FOX Corp. board of directors and even they have two POC men.
I mean, I hate to be pedantic, but the board of Waystar Royco is shown to have POC- a black man, a black woman, an Indian woman. Stewy is Iranian. Lawrence is Asian. Logan’s wife is Lebanese. Kendall’s daughter is South Asian. I don’t see what’s so wrong with what Armstrong’s saying here, I get his point and I agree with it. The Murdochs are the whitest white people out there. Characters like Moe are based on men like Roger Ailes. Gerri/Karolina/Karl/Frank and the Pierce family are all caricatures of real people who are white and who’s whiteness is sort of integral to their approach to the world. I would be all for giving POC characters fully fleshed storylines, but even characters like Gerri don’t have that- the show is about a family of awful rich people, and the fact that they’re white is fundamental to their place in society and their outlook.September 27, 2020 at 3:16 pm #1203738169
If corporate America controlled by these families are not diverse then why this show is not criticizing that? REPLY2IGNORE
It literally is though… there was a whole joke where Greg is watching a Waystar promo/orientation ad showing an ultra diverse set of actors as executives, and then he looks up at the conference room where the executives are just finishing up a meeting and they’re literally all white men. The Pierces are shown to be overtly liberal, Nan Pierce makes a show of asking her hispanic housekeeper to “stop working so hard and take a break with them” while snatching the dinner main course from her and being applauded for it. Logan’s kid treat his racism and sexism as a joke.September 27, 2020 at 3:57 pm #1203738202
Talking about diversity in this instance is difficult. On the one hand, the whiteness of the Roy family is crucial to the story, and as the characters are almost universally awful people to varying degrees (yes – including the Pierce family), I wouldn’t consider diversifying the main cast as positive or even accurate representation necessarily.
However, the show has sidelined some of its most interesting characters (Hiam Abbass’ Marcia) and subplots (Rob Yang’s Vaulter storyline) at the expense of the few non-white cast members it has, which I think has been unwise.
I’d like to see the writers more explicitly comment on race, and make Marcia a lead because Abbass is a star.
For Your Consideration:
Carrie Coon, ‘The Gilded Age’ (no I haven’t seen it, but we have no choice but to stan anyway)September 27, 2020 at 5:31 pm #1203738320
Yea the constant minimizing of Marcia is really their biggest blindspot in this regard, being the only non-white member of the central family and being the one with BY FAR the least screentime. And it’s a shame because the little bit of her we do get is so interesting. I cross my fingers and hope they’re playing the long game with her.
Hopefully if things really are rocky between her and Logan (was implied at the end of last season) that will be used to give her more juicy material rather than less.September 27, 2020 at 6:01 pm #1203738342
This Marcia’s moment was iconique:
Just give Abbas more material and she’ll kill it. I do think the set up at the end of the season 2 is promising regarding her, so we shall see. Hoping for an Emmy nom!November 17, 2020 at 8:04 pm #1203844490
Succession has officially started filming Season 3 today (at Westchester Country Airport)! Still not entirely sure when they’ll wrap and air but it’s exciting that they’ve finally begun.Not now
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