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    wolfali
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    Quite. (Although you could say the reverse about their attitude to Small Axe, which the Globes did at least nominate.)

    True but I do wonder how much of that was due to the high profile names involved in the show rather than anything else. Wright’s atrocious online comments aside it was particularly striking that neither the Globes nor Critics Choice awarded her or Shaun Parkes (both of whom arguably gave the most acclaimed performances on the show and were in the most acclaimed instalment of it) but nominated and gave the win to the performer who was essentially the biggest name in the cast.

    The BAFTA jury did better than all three of the Globes, Critics Choice and Emmys for showering both Small Axe and I May Destroy You with nominations and giving some of the actors on both shows wins!

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby/Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion/Rebecca Hall/Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch/Andrew Garfield/Winston Duke
    Actress: Olivia Colman/Kristen Stewart/Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant/Troy Kotsur/Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Claire Foy/Jayne Houdyshell/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva B

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    I’m not sure this is very productive as an argument given that not watching enough shows is always going to be better than watching more because you’re bribed to do so. All award shows have flaws but, even as we defend its potential continuation, we should not doubt for a second that the Globes needed reform more than any other.

    Fair point.

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    I’m glad we can all have this discussion with each other. It’d be quite boring if we agreed on everything all the time. But I think wanting and hoping for active change from the HFPA and hoping for lesser known films/television programs to get visibility are ultimately things on which we all can agree on.

    FYC -
    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Spencer, The Lost Daughter, Mass
    Director: Jane Campion, Pablo Larraín, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Fran Kranz
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Corey Hawkins, Jason Isaacs
    Supporting Actress: Ruth Negga, Kirsten Dunst, Rebecca Ferguson, Martha Plimpton, Ann Dowd
    O. Screenplay: Spencer, Mass
    A. Screenplay: The Power of the Dog, The Lost Daughter
    Score: Jonny Greenwood (Dog/Spencer)

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    I’m glad we can all have this discussion with each other. It’d be quite boring if we agreed on everything all the time. But I think wanting and hoping for active change from the HFPA and hoping for lesser known films/television programs to get visibility are ultimately things on which we all can agree on.

    Agreed. It’s been nice to engage on a mature basis with other users on this. Especially as there is no one correct view.

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    Agreed. It’s been nice to engage on a mature basis with other users on this. Especially as there is no one correct view.

    This is what I love about the TV side of Gold Derby. We may not agree with each other all the time but we’re able to have all these thought provoking and respectful debates/discussions about awards and pieces of television without the threads descending towards the Twitter esque trolling that sadly is prevalent with some users on the film side.

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby/Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion/Rebecca Hall/Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch/Andrew Garfield/Winston Duke
    Actress: Olivia Colman/Kristen Stewart/Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant/Troy Kotsur/Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Claire Foy/Jayne Houdyshell/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva B

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    My two cents: I wouldn’t mind a year off, i think they do need more time to evaluate their flaws and problematic behavior, it definitely feels rushed now and like they are desperate to not losing the relevance they have/had (all the bickering with the Critics Choice of all things 💀). That said, if they were to be around, i will predict them because I’m an addict. I don’t think many studios will send their movies anyways, the optics would be strange. For TV ofc it will work because there’s nothing significant coming late year, but idk, feels like it will be an off ceremony.

    Honestly I just want them to happen this year so they nominate my favorite show of 2021 (Only Murders in the Building) and it gains momentum towards the Emmys. And a Golden Globe is always better publicity outside of the US than a Critics Choice or a SAG.

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    Honestly I just want them to happen this year so they nominate my favorite show of 2021 (Only Murders in the Building) and it gains momentum towards the Emmys. And a Golden Globe is always better publicity outside of the US than a Critics Choice or a SAG.

    I would argue that for the Emmys, having a SAG nod is more important then a Globes nod, but at the end of the day, they can choose to not care if you have both (i.e. Ethan Hawke with the greatest performance of all time).
    International the Globes are/were more famous then the Emmys itself so yeah, i agree there.

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    They are coming

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    They are coming

    When they destroy the HFPA two times in a row >>>>

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    InB4 the show and Collins miss but we have Globe nominee Ashley Park instead

    Park

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    FIRST PREDICTIONS:

    TV SERIES – DRAMA

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. Squid Game (Netflix)
    3. The Wheel of Time (Prime Video)
    4. The Morning Show (Apple TV+)
    5. Lupin (Netflix)

    ACTOR – DRAMA SERIES

    1. Jeremy Strong – Succession (HBO)
    2. Brian Cox – Succession (HBO)
    3. Lee Jung-jae – Squid Game (Netflix)
    4. Michael C. Hall – Dexter: New Blood (Showtime)
    5. Billy Porter – Pose (FX)

    ACTRESS – DRAMA SERIES

    1. Rosamund Pike – The Wheel of Time (Prime Video)
    2. MJ Rodriguez – Pose (FX)
    3. Jennifer Aniston – The Morning Show (Apple TV+)
    4. Patricia Arquette – Severance (Apple TV+)
    5. Uzo Aduba – In Treatment (HBO)

    TV SERIES – MUSICAL OR COMEDY

    1. Ted Lasso (Apple TV+)
    2. Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)
    3. Hacks (HBO Max)
    4. The Great (Hulu)
    5. And Just Like That… (HBO Max)

    ACTOR – MUSICAL OR COMEDY

    1. Jason Sudeikis – Ted Lasso (Apple TV+)
    2. Martin Short – Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)
    3. Steve Martin – Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)
    4. Michael Douglas – The Kominsky Method (Netflix)
    5. Nicholas Hoult – The Great (Hulu)

    ACTRESS – MUSICAL OR COMEDY

    1. Jean Smart – Hacks (HBO Max)
    2. Elle Fanning – The Great (Hulu)
    3. Selena Gomez – Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)
    4. Sarah Jessica Parker – And Just Like That… (HBO Max)
    5. Sandra Oh – The Chair (Netflix)

    TV – MINISERIES OR TELEVISION MOVIE

    1. Mare of Easttown (HBO)
    2. The White Lotus (HBO)
    3. Maid (Netflix)
    4. The Underground Railroad (Prime Video)
    5. Impeachment: American Crime Story (FX)

    ACTOR – MINISERIES OR TELEVISION MOVIE

    1. Ewan McGregor – Halston (Netflix)
    2. Oscar Isaac – Scenes from a Marriage (HBO)
    3. Murray Bartlett – The White Lotus (HBO)
    4. Michael Keaton – Dopesick (Hulu)
    5. Paul Rudd – The Shrink Next Door (Apple TV+)

    ACTRESS – MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM

    1. Kate Winslet – Mare of Easttown (HBO)
    2. Margaret Qualley – Maid (Netflix)
    3. Jessica Chastain – Scenes from a Marriage (HBO)
    4. Beanie Feldstein – Impeachment: American Crime Story (FX)
    5. Cynthia Erivo – Genius: Aretha (Nat Geo)

    SUPPORTING ACTOR

    1. Evan Peters – Mare of Easttown (HBO)
    2. Brett Goldstein – Ted Lasso (Apple TV+)
    3. Billy Crudup – The Morning Show (Apple TV+)
    4. Kieran Culkin – Succession (HBO)
    5. Nathan Lane – Only Murders in the Building (Hulu)

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS

    1. Julianne Nicholson – Mare of Easttown (HBO)
    2. Hannah Waddingham – Ted Lasso (Apple TV+)
    3. Jennifer Coolidge – The White Lotus (HBO)
    4. Andie McDowell – Maid (Netflix)
    5. Hannah Einbinder – Hacks (HBO Max)

     

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    ACTRESS – DRAMA SERIES

    1. Rosamund Pike – The Wheel of Time (Prime Video)

    Quiet possibly the easiest call of recent memory. no obvious frontrunner; 1st season show; a likely commercial hit; HFPA loves Amazon AND Pike in individually, together is 🤌.

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    Quiet possibly the easiest call of recent memory. no obvious frontrunner; 1st season show; a likely commercial hit; HFPA loves Amazon AND Pike in individually, together is 🤌.

    Yup, feeling pretty good about it. It helps that Rosamund has great taste in general so I doubt she’d sign for anything that’s less than really good TV.

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    Am I the only one who doesn’t feel confident that Wheel of Time will be any good?

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