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December 13, 2022 at 9:52 pm #1205193736
The latest victim of the 2 seasons and that’s it thing: Warrior Nun, showrunner Simon Barry’s followup to Saturn award winning Continuum:
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December 14, 2022 at 6:08 am #1205193993Also being discussed by some as part of a different trend, of shows with lesbian/sapphic/wlw relationships or characters at their heart that don’t get renewed past one or two seasons…
Just this year, streamers have cancelled Warrior Nun, First Kill, Gentleman Jack, Paper Girls, The Wilds… and no word about a League of Their Own, which you would think would be an obvious renewal (though I’m surprised hasn’t gotten more awards buzz).
Honestly I can’t tell if it’s truly a trend, or if everything’s just getting cancelled these days, but that was definitely the buzz on Twitter yesterday, and it *feels* like a trend. (more on this: https://www.them.us/story/lesbian-sapphic-tv-cancellations-show-endings)
of course you can think of counter-examples of shows that have wlw relationships, like Euphoria, The Morning Show, Yellowjackets, but they’re not the dead center of them.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 14, 2022 at 6:18 am #1205194007I never heard of that show before but after googling, it seems to be mildly popular (it doesnt seem to have the fan base of Wendesday or any of the other big ones from what I can tell from a brief glance) but people are pretty pissed it got canceled. They might change their minds and reverse it.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 14, 2022 at 6:50 am #1205194041I never heard of that show before but after googling, it seems to be mildly popular (it doesnt seem to have the fan base of Wendesday or any of the other big ones from what I can tell from a brief glance) but people are pretty pissed it got canceled. They might change their minds and reverse it.
I don’t think so. There’s a good amount of bot activity going on around the show (notably, the viewership bears no resemblance to the review numbers, but I would strongly suggest it’s also the case on social media).
The viewership was significantly lower than a host of genre programs Netflix has cancelled this year – The Sandman was the first Season 1 renewal they’d made for a genre program over a year and that was likely due to it having significantly higher viewership than any other genre series. Wednesday is also clearly a no-brainer.
Possibly there is a trend of WLW shows being cancelled, but I also think there’s a lot of shows at that budget point being cancelled, and there’s not a lot of shows with any type of romantic relationship front and centre being renewed – a lot of what is doing well is broad ensemble pieces. I don’t think Netflix is specifically targeting series with LBGTQ representation – The Sandman probably has more LGBTQ representation than any other genre series at it’s price point (though it is decentralised, but that’s true of romance generally in that show), and both Heartstopper (obviously) and Heartbreak High were renewed and both have mountains of representation.
In the case of A League of Their Own, hardly any comedies have been renewed this Emmy cycle or any sort.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 14, 2022 at 4:34 pm #1205195321I don’t think so. There’s a good amount of bot activity going on around the show (notably, the viewership bears no resemblance to the review numbers, but I would strongly suggest it’s also the case on social media).
The viewership was significantly lower than a host of genre programs Netflix has cancelled this year – The Sandman was the first Season 1 renewal they’d made for a genre program over a year and that was likely due to it having significantly higher viewership than any other genre series. Wednesday is also clearly a no-brainer.
Possibly there is a trend of WLW shows being cancelled, but I also think there’s a lot of shows at that budget point being cancelled, and there’s not a lot of shows with any type of romantic relationship front and centre being renewed – a lot of what is doing well is broad ensemble pieces. I don’t think Netflix is specifically targeting series with LBGTQ representation – The Sandman probably has more LGBTQ representation than any other genre series at it’s price point (though it is decentralised, but that’s true of romance generally in that show), and both Heartstopper (obviously) and Heartbreak High were renewed and both have mountains of representation.
In the case of A League of Their Own, hardly any comedies have been renewed this Emmy cycle or any sort.
I haven’t heard of any of those shows, which is probably a good indication on how much I have paid attention this year as a whole in regards to tv. Saying that, I was just going to start sandman so good to know I can watch wiut fear of never answerd cliffhanger
ReplyCopy URLDecember 14, 2022 at 4:53 pm #1205195358Did a bit more research and this one truly is a headscratcher. The series seems to be very popular so I’d LOVE to see the numbers but Netflix would never make that happen
ReplyCopy URLDecember 14, 2022 at 7:15 pm #1205195523Did a bit more research and this one truly is a headscratcher. The series seems to be very popular so I’d LOVE to see the numbers but Netflix would never make that happen
It is popular on social media, but it doesnt necessarily translate to viewership. They do report it. If you look at top10.netflix.com (where they self-report their hours) it did 26 million, 27 million and 11 million.Whilst that sounds a lot, 64 million hours in three weeks is way under the rate that they have been renewing genre shows (they’ve cancelled all the way up to high 100s). It also didn’t make Nielsen, which would suggest the weekly US viewership was pretty low (probably under about 3 million, if not much less)
I tend to believe their top 10 lists at this point because they generally translate to Nielsen pretty well (i.e whatever they report worldwide for Stranger Things usually turns up at about 25%)
December 15, 2022 at 9:25 am #1205196092That might be my new fav site for research now before I start watching a show on Netflix. Will save me a lot of time and cliffhangers
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