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  • forwardswill
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    I know it would be very out of style for the show but I really hope the series finale has Foy, Colman and whoever is next all sharing the screen

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    Gabarnes43
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    Just finished the third season. Helena and Olivia were outstanding in the last episode. My favourite episode is probably Aberfan. I didn’t expect much from Menzies but he definitely proved me wrong.

    EMMYS FYC

    The White Lotus in all categories

    Landscapers, Olivia Colman & David Thewlis

    Ted Lasso in all Categories

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    ginnala
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    I’ve just finished the season and I’m whelmed.

    It started very strongly. The premiere was great and episode 2 and 3 are among the show’s best episodes (if the not the best episodes of the entire series). Ep 4 was nice. But after that the downfall begins. Ep 5 is terrible. I thought it would be the worst episode of the show until I watched Ep 7 which is not only bad but also a complete bore. Ep 6 was great but it doesn’t erase the fact it’s in between those messy episodes. The rest of the season was more classic but something was missing for me. The final has nice moments though (I love anything related to Margaret anyway).

    I’m not even sure if we can call Helena Bonham-Carter a supporting actress in this. After the first 2/3 episodes she disappears and only has cameo appareances here and there. If the Emmys’ eligibility were based on screentime, she would be considered as a Guest Actress. Josh O’Connor is featured in less episodes but has way more presence in the show.

    Olivia Colman is great but I wouldn’t call her performance undeniable either. She does feel like a background character most of the times in her own show. It’s not Olivia’s fault, of course.

    Ultimately I might think this could be the worst season? The production and acting were amazing but the writing was very inconsistent. I’m still very excited about s4 because the material is juicier, but I’m worried Olivia and HBC (especially her), will be even less proeminent.

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    Potatohead
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    If Helena Bonham Carter had tapes like Vanessa Kirby, she’d be sweeping the awards circuits effortlessly. However, “Margaretology” is just a rehash of “Pride and Joy” and “Cri De Coeur” is maybe a cut above “Matrimonium” and nowhere near as excellent as “Beryl”. She’s pitch perfect, but I doubt she’s going to be making waves this year.

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    kellis
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    Edit: Here’s Foy shooting her scene(s?). lk

    Coming for that Guest Emmy I see.

    “No user starts this shady” - someone culturally relevant.

    Also got banned because...reasons? So, I guess ciao.

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    Reis
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    Jane Lapotaire amazed me in episode 4. I was not expecting nothing from this episode, but really worked for me.

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    Dan Backslide
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    I haven’t seen this season, but what are the odds of Charles Dance getting a guest nomination? Obviously it seems like Josh O’Connor will he likely to get one if he goes guest, but it seems like most people are predicting him to go supporting instead. What are Dance’s chances in both scenarios?

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    Atypical
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    Just watched the season premiere. A bit on the dry side, as I think more beginning fanfare would have cemented the new cast in my mind more. Olivia Colman was fine. I’m looking forward to seeing how she changes and deepens the role, b/c Claire Foy’s shadow is long and extensive. Helena Bonham Carter really popped. We aren’t worthy of her, even in this opening episode. Ben Daniels will be an excellent counter to her. Nice to see the brief cameo from John Lithgow. I’m interested in seeing what the Queen’s relationship with Harold Wilson turns out to be like, as I’m unfamiliar with this prime minister. And all of that spy business with Anthony Blunt? How oddly relevant and topical lol. I’ll hope to dig into more episodes soon.

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    babypook
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    wish I felt comfortable posting in this thread.

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    Riley Chow
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    Okay.

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    Reis
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    “Coup” was a lovely episode, specially Colman performance.

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    musterd
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    “Coup” was a lovely episode, specially Colman performance.

    Yes! It’s also an example that if you give her stuff to do she works the hell out of it. Her character comes alive from the banality of her life in the palace when she’s doing something she loves and Colman turns on her charm so easily before her sadness sets in when it has to end. Then her cold fury from the realisation that her fantasy life is well and truly dead was great and capped off with a sweet scene with Philip.

    Also the Mountbatten retirement cake always makes me laugh.

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    Potatohead
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    Critics’ Choice snubbing Josh O’Connor despite having the best material and performance this season:

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    forwardswill
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    Episode 7 was majestic and Tobias Menzies was glorious. He should win the Globe.

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    forwardswill
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    Finally finished. Overall, as critical as I have felt at times, this was still an excellent season even if it lacked the consistency of the previous two. Television of the highest quality often still prevailed, especially in “Bubbikins”, “Tywysog Cymru”, “Moondust” and “Cri de Coeur”, but equally this season featured the three weakest episodes of the show ever in “Olding”, “Dangling Man” and “Imbruglio”.

    As for the cast, I naively entered this season believing I could avoid comparisons to the previous iterations. It is impossible to do so. It is also a great shame that I spent much of the season thinking Colman was miscast. I still believe so. However, what wasn’t clear until the whole season could be considered as one was that her proficiencies as an actress could make her shine even without suitability. She could never be Claire Foy and it took me a season to realise it. But being able to carry a show of this quality is still a huge achievement and the fact that Colman couldn’t do it to quite the level of an all time great performance from Foy shouldn’t be held against her. Fittingly also, “Cri de Coeur” is undoubtedly the most suited and comfortable she appeared in the role so perhaps season four will be when her interpretation truly begins to flourish.

    The rest of the ensemble do fair a lot better. I was initially nervous about Bonham Carter when the season started but, despite being frequently absent, the finale was her moment and my god did she take it. I still prefer Streep and Dern but I won’t be losing any sleep if she becomes her category’s favourite. O’Connor was also truly excellent in his debut and looks promising for the future material he has to chew. It is a shame his Camilla storyline is one area I believe the show to have dropped the ball. Other notables include the delightful Erin Doherty, ever consistent Jason Watkins and the should-be-Emmy-winning Jane Lapotaire.

    The true standout is Menzies. He mesmerises even in the smallest of scenes and makes poor Matt Smith pale in comparison. “Moondust” is the crowning achievement in performance of the entire season.

    My favourite show is no longer my favourite show but that’s okay. It’s still bloody good.

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