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    An interesting amount of industry support in the comments of Jeanne Tripplehorn’s post promoting her appearance in the show’s premiere (Laura Linney, Amanda Seyfried and Chloe Sevigny to name a few commented – Linney after the episode aired). The writer of Zola also live-tweeted reactions to the premiere.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    They’re all really good out of the gate, too. Nixon feels like she is recreating her character Birdie from The Little Foxes here, and I mean that as a compliment. She was terrific in that role, so I hope we see more shades of that character.

    I think another thing I really liked about the pilot is that you could tell that this is a television show in the best of ways. Each character feels primed for development and fleshing out over multiple episodes which really is a nice thing to see with television becoming more loose when it comes to its unique episodic structure in this streaming age (not that I have any issue with limited series plotted like a film, it’s just always nice to see something new that’s more episodic).

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    I liked this so much. Carrie Coon was especially amazing.

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    Solid debut episode. Excited to see where things go. Emmy contender prospects based on my initial reaction to the first episode:

    Lead Actress: Carrie Coon (eats up every scene)

    Supporting Actress: Christine Baranski

    Guest Actress: Jeanne Tripplehorn (seems like a meaty role once given the proper screentime)

    Costume Design! (Wow)

    It was cool seeing so many familiar faces in the cast, especially the Broadway talent!

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    I don’t expect the initial linear ratings to be a killing (the numbers on IMDB are still fairly low and it seems from Twitter that most people watched it on HBO Max) but for a Monday show on HBO, it really does feel like it actually has buzz as opposed to something like Landscapers when it aired on Mondays last month.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    Yeah most ppl watch shows on streaming nowadays

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    Will watch later but in case anyone is interested in billing order:

    Carrie Coon, Morgan Spector, Louisa Jacobson, Denee Benton, Taissa Farmiga, Harry Richardson, Blake Ritson, Thomas Coquerel, Simon Jones, Jack Gilpin

    WITH Cynthia Nixon and Christine Baranski

     

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    I don’t expect the initial linear ratings to be a killing (the numbers on IMDB are still fairly low and it seems from Twitter that most people watched it on HBO Max) but for a Monday show on HBO, it really does feel like it actually has buzz as opposed to something like Landscapers when it aired on Mondays last month.

    I will say though that those IMDB votes are skewing (at this stage) extremely old. As someone who has had to look at that data for work reasons (unrelated to this) nearly double 30-45 age groups in the 45+ is at the absolute upper echelons audience age wise – it would be a safe bet to suggest the average viewer is 60s+ (if not 70+) given how those compare to CBS shows that are known to have average viewers around that age. If it stays like that it will probably never have particularly high IMDB votes because 45+ viewers are least likely to vote.

    There is a bit of a tendency of recent contenders to skew very extreme demographic wise (ie Euphoria skews very young, Bridgerton skews very female). I’d hazard a guess if you look at the breakdown their competition is more Yellowstone or in particular 1883 than it is Bridgerton

     

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    I thought the pilot was pretty good but as usual I’m extremely impressed with everything Carrie Coon does, she’s so magnetic on screen.

    My biggest issue was with how CGI all the outside scenes looked, I found it quite distracting.

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    but as usual I’m extremely impressed with everything Carrie Coon does, she’s so magnetic on screen.

    All of her characters also really feel quite raw from the moment they come on screen. Truly one of the greatest actors working today.

    I will say though that those IMDB votes are skewing (at this stage) extremely old. As someone who has had to look at that data for work reasons (unrelated to this) nearly double 30-45 age groups in the 45+ is at the absolute upper echelons audience age wise – it would be a safe bet to suggest the average viewer is 60s+ (if not 70+) given how those compare to CBS shows that are known to have average viewers around that age. If it stays like that it will probably never have particularly high IMDB votes because 45+ viewers are least likely to vote. There is a bit of a tendency of recent contenders to skew very extreme demographic wise (ie Euphoria skews very young, Bridgerton skews very female). I’d hazard a guess if you look at the breakdown their competition is more Yellowstone or in particular 1883 than it is Bridgerton

    Of course not by any means an awards comparison but its appeal somewhat reminds me of Fosse/Verdon’s a few years ago. It appeals to people who love theatre and Broadway, it appeals to older demographics and people who like the actors involved.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    Of course not by any means an awards comparison but its appeal somewhat reminds me of Fosse/Verdon’s a few years ago. It appeals to people who love theatre and Broadway, it appeals to older demographics and people who like the actors involved.

    True.

    Watching it now.

    Very pleasant show. Composing some thoughts.

    The outside VFX is indeed somewhat distracting (and I am watching this on my laptop so it’s probably worse on a bigger screen) but also, covid, I’m pretty sure this was filming pre-vaccine so that is what it is.

     

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    OK. Thoughts. Stream of consciousness.

    I think Coon and Spector are leads? Maybe Baranski?

    I think Benton is the more compelling of the younger actresses. I don’t know how they’re going to handle that storyline.

    How sustainable is this show and cast long term? ie if the theatres get back up and running how do they sustain the continuity of that lovely Tony nominated cast? Is it possible if it doesn’t hit it goes to limited? Not to mention Baranski and Nixon having other shows. Also some of the cast is playing far younger than they are and that’s going to look odd if they’re doing a season every two years for 3-5 seasons.

    Carrie Coon is my MVP for this episode.

    This would be a nice SAG ensemble show.

    The whiplash of this and Euphoria being on the same network.

     

     

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    I loved it. Just the right delicious elements of “Downton” and a wonderful ensemble. I mean a Tony nominee at every turn! Baranski was the MVP for me by a mile. Very excited to see where it goes.

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    In terms of lead submissions (if they submit people in lead, I can see a situation where everyone goes supporting) it will probably be Carrie Coon and one of Baranski/Jacobson. Jacobson feels a lot more like a lead if we’re to go off that pilot but the promotion for this show is almost entirely on Baranski. Sure the same could be said of Cynthia Nixon but Nixon wasn’t on the poster for this show.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    In terms of lead submissions (if they submit people in lead, I can see a situation where everyone goes supporting) it will probably be Carrie Coon and one of Baranski/Jacobson. Jacobson feels a lot more like a lead if we’re to go off that pilot but the promotion for this show is almost entirely on Baranski. Sure the same could be said of Cynthia Nixon but Nixon wasn’t on the poster for this show.

    See my post in the drama thread, but I think they should probably err on under-submitting here. If this is a “wildly popular with a very specific group” show (ie the oldest viewers in the Academy, or just the older female viewers in the Academy) giving them too many options probably means they aren’t helped in an unlimited ballot if voters don’t agree. They can always expand later.

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