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  • Pranshu
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    hopelesstar
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    Just finished binging and I frankly don’t get the acclaim for this season. It was extremely redundant and basically the same thing every episodes. S1 was much better.

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    LOVED LOVED LOVED this finale and the season as a whole! Top program of the season for me!

    Looking ahead, I like the idea I heard of them exploring a White Lotus location at a ski-resort, which would be a nice change of pace the beach locations. I think Daphne would be the “fan-favorite” character to bring back (maybe a girls trip with friends or trip with her mom?). Unpopular opinion, but I think Portia would be an easy character to bring back. I don’t think I’d like to see anyone from Season 1 come back, not even Britton.

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    While Portia on paper seems like an easy character to bring back (just have her working for someone new) I doubt White could justify a character who had such a traumatic experience her one time going to a white lotus before, going to yet another one. Especially since it’s implied she couldn’t exactly afford it on her own.

    IF anyone comes back Daphne does seem like the most obvious choice, maybe even a trip with the kids without Cameron? Or maybe Albie and his unseen sister go on a trip paid for by their parents? Maybe in a year Portia and Albie are dating and he takes her to another white lotus and she can’t get out of it without having to tell him the truth about Tanya!

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    Also, while it seems no one can REALLY agree on a standout, it looks like their best awards chances are probably as follows:

    Supporting Actress
    1. Jennifer Coolidge – probably the frontrunner in her category until proven otherwise
    2. Aubrey Plaza
    3. Sabrina Impacciatore
    4. Meghan Fahy – I know she’s SO many people’s #1 which is why I have such an unknown up here at all, but I think she’ll suffer in voter memories for having like one great scene per episode but not as much of an arc as most of the characters

    5. Simona Tabasco

    Supporting Actor
    1. F. Murray Abraham
    2. Michael Imperioli – I know he’s not really any one’s favorite but I think so many voters will just be excited to see him back in a prestige project again
    3. Tom Hollander

    4. Adam DiMarco
    5. Theo James
    6. Will Sharpe

    Using the response to Downton Abbey as a template, when a show they LOVE moves from limited series to drama they have no problem absolutely showering it with nominations. I don’t think it will DOMINATE the categories quite like it did in limited, but I think we could be seeing 2-3 actors nominated in each of these categories, even if the odds underpredict it

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    Just finished binging and I frankly don’t get the acclaim for this season. It was extremely redundant and basically the same thing every episodes. S1 was much better.

    It was a really fun watch in the end, but the hyperbole here 💀 it wasn’t even in the same league as the first season. Not as funny, fewer interesting characters and performances, and most importantly, the social commentary (crucial to the quality of the first season) simply wasn’t as sharp.

    Fahy, Plaza, Coolidge, Impacciatore, Tabasco and Graccò give the noteworthy performances here. The men this season don’t compare to the male performances in season 1, but F. Murray Abraham is the best of them.

    FYC: Danielle Deadwyler, Best Actress in a Leading Role

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    It was a really fun watch in the end, but the hyperbole here 💀 it wasn’t even in the same league as the first season. Not as funny, fewer interesting characters and performances, and most importantly, the social commentary (crucial to the quality of the first season) simply wasn’t as sharp. Fahy, Plaza, Coolidge, Impacciatore, Tabasco and Graccò give the noteworthy performances here. The men this season don’t compare to the male performances in season 1, but F. Murray Abraham is the best of them.

     

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    Jacob "Oscar Boy" Boe
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    Also, while it seems no one can REALLY agree on a standout, it looks like their best awards chances are probably as follows: Supporting Actress 1. Jennifer Coolidge – probably the frontrunner in her category until proven otherwise 2. Aubrey Plaza 3. Sabrina Impacciatore 4. Meghan Fahy – I know she’s SO many people’s #1 which is why I have such an unknown up here at all, but I think she’ll suffer in voter memories for having like one great scene per episode but not as much of an arc as most of the characters — 5. Simona Tabasco Supporting Actor 1. F. Murray Abraham 2. Michael Imperioli – I know he’s not really any one’s favorite but I think so many voters will just be excited to see him back in a prestige project again 3. Tom Hollander — 4. Adam DiMarco 5. Theo James 6. Will Sharpe Using the response to Downton Abbey as a template, when a show they LOVE moves from limited series to drama they have no problem absolutely showering it with nominations. I don’t think it will DOMINATE the categories quite like it did in limited, but I think we could be seeing 2-3 actors nominated in each of these categories, even if the odds underpredict it

    Im kinda confused by a few of these rankings. Sabrina Impacciatore will be more of an unknown to Emmy voters than Meghann Fahy. Plus the latter just has more buzz. I do think both have a shot at a nomination though, but they should definitely be swapped. Also, Haley Lu Richardson is more likely than Simona Tabasco (although i agree with both of them being below your line). As for the guys, there is no way that Will Sharpe is LAST. He has quite a lot of passion around his performance, being singled out by most as the best or second-best guy after Abraham. I would concur he’d be below Imperioli and Hollander in that order because of name recognition, but he’s definitely above DiMarco and James (and those two should probably be switched too).

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    My initial thoughts are:

    Supporting Actress

    1. Coolidge – Obvious reasons.
    2. Plaza – Although she’s never been nominated before and probably won’t win, her performance is one of the most acclaimed of the season and she reminds me of someone like Evan Peters in that she’s not gotten in before due to a lack of opportunity as opposed to not jiving with voters.
    3. Fahy – Seems to have a sheer amount of passion that almost rivals both of the above.
    4. Impacciatore – Ditto.

    5. Richardson – Feels like she could have enough goodwill from her indie movies to find her way in although she doesn’t seem to be running on much passion (also directly tied to Coolidge like Rothwell was last season).
    6. Tabasco – Seems to have a lot of passion but could be too unknown.

    Supporting Actor

    1. Abraham
    2. Imperioli – Both feel respected enough as previous Academy Award and Emmy winners to get in on the unlimited ballot even if they don’t seem to be running high on passion (à la Britton).

    3. Hollander – Probably quite familiar to voters in spite of having never been nominated before even if not to the same extent as Plaza. Also plays a character who I’m sure people will remember when checking of their ballots even if they don’t really care about his performance.
    4. Sharpe – Feels too tied to Plaza for him to not be somewhere in the mix. Also has significant material in both the penultimate episode and finale.

    5. James – Could benefit from being a part of that Fahy/Plaza/Sharpe quartet and voters being surprised by his performance in this seeing his previous work (like with Daddario). Could just as easily be ignored though due to not having a prestigious standing as an actor and fitting the slap the stud trope to a tee.

    6. DiMarco – I guess if they really love this season?

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.

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    Jacob "Oscar Boy" Boe
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    My initial thoughts are: Supporting Actress 1. Coolidge – Obvious reasons. 2. Plaza – Although she’s never been nominated before and probably won’t win, her performance is one of the most acclaimed of the season and she reminds me of someone like Evan Peters in that she’s not gotten in before due to a lack of opportunity as opposed to not jiving with voters. 3. Fahy – Seems to have a sheer amount of passion that almost rivals both of the above. 4. Impacciatore – Ditto. 5. Richardson – Feels like she could have enough goodwill from her indie movies to find her way in although she doesn’t seem to be running on much passion (also directly tied to Coolidge like Rothwell was last season). 6. Tabasco – Seems to have a lot of passion but could be too unknown. Supporting Actor 1. Abraham 2. Imperioli – Both feel respected enough as previous Academy Award and Emmy winners to get in on the unlimited ballot even if they don’t seem to be running high on passion (à la Britton). 3. Hollander – Probably quite familiar to voters in spite of having never been nominated before even if not to the same extent as Plaza. Also plays a character who I’m sure people will remember when checking of their ballots even if they don’t really care about his performance. 4. Sharpe – Feels too tied to Plaza for him to not be somewhere in the mix. Also has significant material in both the penultimate episode and finale. 5. James – Could benefit from being a part of that Fahy/Plaza/Sharpe quartet and voters being surprised by his performance in this seeing his previous work (like with Daddario). Could just as easily be ignored though due to not having a prestigious standing as an actor and fitting the slap the stud trope to a tee. 6. DiMarco – I guess if they really love this season?

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    F. Murray Abraham will likely be the name-check male for the entire season. That’s what being a well-regarded Oscar winner affords you in a sprawling ensemble like this one. I wouldn’t place him above Will Sharpe, personally, but I get that one has high name recognition and the younger cast doesn’t. Kinda hoped more would have transpired at the end for the Di Grasso men, but as a trio, they were aces together, especially in their table scenes (sadly overshadowed by the other foursome).

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    I think Sharpe will be the first Supporting actor nominated after Abraham. He’s this season’s Jake Lacy in that not only was he great but more importantly he was just in it the most

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    Im kinda confused by a few of these rankings. Sabrina Impacciatore will be more of an unknown to Emmy voters than Meghann Fahy. Plus the latter just has more buzz. I do think both have a shot at a nomination though, but they should definitely be swapped. Also, Haley Lu Richardson is more likely than Simona Tabasco (although i agree with both of them being below your line). As for the guys, there is no way that Will Sharpe is LAST. He has quite a lot of passion around his performance, being singled out by most as the best or second-best guy after Abraham. I would concur he’d be below Imperioli and Hollander in that order because of name recognition, but he’s definitely above DiMarco and James (and those two should probably be switched too).

    Honestly I was kinda just going by my gut so most of your critique’s make sense. I think I put Impacciatore above Fahy because she has a more discernible arc that ends the season on a high that I think will stand out in voters memories, plus the fact that Murray Bartlett WON the emmy for playing the hotel manager last season means voters will be paying special attention to whoever’s in that part. She also A) already has a viral clip that draws attention to her improvisation skills (the Peppa Pig moment) and B) will have an element of discovery that Fahy lacks. Fahy is in this weird place between being an unknown and being known, having starred in exactly one popular show that has a lot of fans but a much younger audience than most Emmy voters, so they’ll have an idea of who she is but even if they do they’ll think of her as a Freeform actor. Same with Tabasco, she’ll have a breakout star narrative that someone like Richardson (not exactly famous but not unknown either) just won’t have.

    Regarding the men, I guess maybe it’s my bubble but I feel like I’ve seen the least talk about Sharpe, possibly influenced by the fact that he’s the least famous out of the male actors (even DiMarco has been in a couple popular shows). I feel like James, who’s been known since Downton Abbey, got a LOT of buzz from people being surprised that the pretty boy could actually act, and that’s just a narrative I didn’t see play out for Sharpe. He also has probaly the least showy role out of that main quartet. But he proves very integral to the story, so I may be wrong!

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    Sharpe’s weird because he really popped out in the last few episodes, I was blown away by him in 6 and 7, but I didn’t think much of his performance in the first 5 episodes. But then the same could be said for Fahy honestly. I feel like this season was really big on the characters starting out simple and then getting big acting moments near the end though (Fahy, Sharpe, Coolidge, I’d also say Woodall, Hollander, and Richardson had their best moments in the last episode). So I have no idea what the Emmys prefer, someone who shows hidden depths as the season goes on or someone who is really showy the whole way through, but I don’t think this season really has anyone in that second category anyway. So that was my initial hesitation with Sharpe but I think after the end of the show he has a good chance of a nomination.

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