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December 3, 2022 at 10:54 am #1205176877
Better Call Saul has the narrative of be continuously overlooked and underappreciated by awards bodies, specifically the Emmys, which definitely plays into the underdog narrative. It wouldn’t be my #1 or #2 even but I also have no problem with people picking it that high either. It was a great season of TV.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 3, 2022 at 11:44 am #1205176931It’s still doing pretty well, though. A cynical take is a lot of critics want to be special and not pick the obvious frontrunner. Hence it still being on every list but not #1 or #2 a lot so far. It also aired n the first quarter of the year so maybe some people just have been too far removed from it to remember how much they enjoyed it when they watched the first time. I tend to lean on the cynical side of things most of the time but it’s also possible some of these critics just liked other shows more.
This is the thought I had, interesting to hear others say it as well! It almost seems like putting Severance at #1 would’ve been “cool” six months ago but now it’s just the “boring”, obvious choice.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 3, 2022 at 5:44 pm #1205177216So far the overall aggregate consists of shows that would all be in my personal top 10 or shows I haven’t watched. Some of those shows I likely will never watch because of the genre (Andor) or universe fatigue (House of Dragon) and some I just didn’t know existed because of football season (Bad Sisters) and am looking forward to checking out now.
That’s what I thought too and I have zero knowledge about SW! But it turned out to be other types of genres: spy thriller in the vein of Tinker Tailor, heist movie, commentary on prison and institutions, anti-fascist rebellion… all in one! Hope you give it a chance.
ReplyCopy URLDecember 4, 2022 at 7:10 am #120517747314 Best New TV Shows of 2014, unranked
The Bear
Paper Girls
She-Hulk
Ms. Marvel
High School
The Afterparty
Pachinko
Nothing Special
Rothaniel
This Fool
The Gordita Chronicles
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
Our Flag Means Death
Standing Up
Honourable Mentions
Bad Sisters
The Sandman
Tokyo Vice
Wednesday
Bee and Puppycat
Dead End: Paranormal Park
Best Returning Shows (not officially part of the list)
Reservation Dogs
Russian Doll
Atlanta
December 4, 2022 at 7:19 am #1205177479(Previously, this list was falsely credited to “Finno Expert,” a Finnish newspaper that copy and pasted Ali’s list.)
Top 10 New Shows of 2022 (unranked)
Our Flag Means Death
Severance
The January 6th Committee Hearings
Abbott Elementary
Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey
The Serpent Queen
Pachinko
The Sandman
Mo
Bad Sisters
Best Returning Shows (Not officially part of the list)
Never Have I Ever
Reservation Dogs
Stranger Things
Better Call Saul
Better Things
ReplyCopy URLDecember 4, 2022 at 10:01 am #1205177633LA Times 14 Best New TV Shows of 2014, unranked The Bear Paper Girls She-Hulk Ms. Marvel High School The Afterparty Pachinko Nothing Special Rothaniel This Fool The Gordita Chronicles Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Our Flag Means Death Standing Up Honourable Mentions Bad Sisters The Sandman Tokyo Vice Wednesday Bee and Puppycat Dead End: Paranormal Park Best Returning Shows (not officially part of the list) Reservation Dogs Russian Doll Atlanta
Just an FYI – Lorraine from LA Times did a list today too. 🙂
ReplyCopy URLDecember 4, 2022 at 10:09 am #1205177641Ohhh my god, the “Finno Expert” list I posted is actually a copy and paste of Lorraine Ali’s list, I’ll edit it to reflect that. Thank you for the heads up!
ReplyCopy URLDecember 4, 2022 at 2:12 pm #1205177741Ohhh my god, the “Finno Expert” list I posted is actually a copy and paste of Lorraine Ali’s list, I’ll edit it to reflect that. Thank you for the heads up!
No worries! You’re doing amazing! It’s a lot to keep up with!
ReplyCopy URLDecember 4, 2022 at 2:22 pm #1205177748Thanks a lot, honestly this happens every year, people love reposting journalists and critics work to try and get clicks, I kind of hate it! The critics work really hard putting together their lists and reviews, they deserve credit for them (especially considering Finno Expert even replaced Lorraine Ali’s name)
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:29 am #1205178668(Normally the AV Club list is an aggregate of lists from various contributors. I’m not sure if they just haven’t posted those yet, or if they’ve moved away from that system after the massive lay offs earlier this year. Based on some of the blurbs, they talk as though they discussed the list placements as a group, and I have a feeling a ballot system would produce a different number 1 pick.)
30. The Dropout
29. Mo
28. Ms. Marvel
27. Our Flag Means Death
26. The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power
25. Peacemaker
24. For All Mankind
23. Slow Horses
22. Minx
21. The Rehearsal
20. The Boys
19. The White Lotus
18. Los Espookys
17. Cabinet of Curiosities
16. Documentary Now!
15. Industry
14. Harley Quinn
13. Atlanta
12. Better Things
11. Heartstopper
10. Yellowjackets
9. Pachinko
8. Andor
7. Somebody Somewhere
6. Abbott Elementary
5. Reservation Dogs
4. Barry
3. Better Call Saul
2. Severance
1. The Bear
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:35 am #120517869010. Pachinko
9. Severance
8. The White Lotus
7. Our Flag Means Death
6. The English
5. Reservation Dogs
4. The Dropout
3. Andor
2. Better Call Saul
1. The Rehearsal
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:43 am #1205178702Jen Chaney
10. Abbott Elementary
9. This is Going to Hurt
8. The Last Movie Stars
7. Better Things
6. The Bear
5. Reservation Dogs
4. Barry
3. Somebody Somewhere
2. Better Call Saul
1. Severance
Roxana Hadadi
10. The Righteous Gemstones
9. Girls5eva
8. Pachinko
7. The Dropout
6. For All Mankind
5. We Own This City
4. Severance
3. Reservation Dogs
2. The Bear
1. Andor
Kathryn VanArendonk
10. The Bear
9. Andor
8. The Last Movie Stars
7. This is Going to Hurt
6. Industry
5. Severance
4. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
3. Somebody Somewhere
2. Pachinko
1. Reservation Dogs
Honourable Mentions (taken from the best of the year so far list that I posted at the start of this thread. Anything from that list that didn’t make one of these lists is an “honourable mention”)
As We See It
We Need to Talk About Cosby
Starstruck
Julia
Gaslit
Tokyo Vice
Under the Banner of Heaven
The Staircase
Couples Therapy
Conversations with Friends
Ms. Marvel
P-Valley
Flatbush Misdemeanors
The January 6 Hearings
Would It Kill You to Laugh?
What We Do in the Shadows
The Rehearsal
Bluey
This Fool
Mo
The Patient
High School
Cabinet of Curiosities
Dead to Me
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:47 am #120517870820. The Boys
19. House of the Dragon
18. Abbott Elementary
17. The Staircase
16. Somebody Somewhere
15. We Own This City
14. Atlanta
13. Industry
12. Better Things
11. Andor
10. Evil
9. The Bear
8. Pachinko
7. The Righteous Gemstones
6. Interview with the Vampire
5. Barry
4. The Rehearsal
3. Reservation Dogs
2. Severance
1. Better Call Saul
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:52 am #120517872210. Reservation Dogs
9. What We Do in the Shadows
8. Players
7. Yellowjackets
6. The Rehearsal
5. House of the Dragon
4. Peacemaker
3. Severance
2. Better Call Saul
1. Andor
The Best of the Rest
Girls5eva
The Righteous Gemstones
The Bear
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
Our Flag Means Death
The White Lotus
Derry Girls
Station Eleven
All Creatures Great and Small
Slow Horses
The Sandman
Abbott Elementary
The Good Fight
Ms. Marvel
Atlanta
A League of their Own
(This list was made how The AV Club’s is normally, every contributor submitted a ballot and those were aggregated. Not sure if Metacritic will just take the top ten or do what they do for The AV Club and use each individual ballot.)
ReplyCopy URLDecember 5, 2022 at 7:55 am #120517872510. Pam & Tommy
9. Cabinet of Curiosities
8. Better Call Saul
7. Bad Sisters
6. Barry
5. Atlanta
4. Yellowjackets
3. The Rehearsal
2. Severance
1. The Bear
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