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  • Allan Veríssimo
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    House of the Dragon entered the Top 10 and has a slight advantage over Pachinko.

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    kat_ebbs
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    House of the Dragon entered the Top 10 and has a slight advantage over Pachinko.

    HoTD ending up so high is so revisionist. They were pretty brutal to it when it came out. If it weren’t so visible I don’t think it would be so high.

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    Sir Shaw
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    Impressed Slow Horses managed to sneak into the top 30. It only appeared on 5 ranked lists and only two of those was higher than #9 (#7 for both The Independent and The Watch).

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    FNLlove
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    This may be an unpopular opinion, and I’m a big Severance stan so of course I’ll feel this way, but to me this list shows Severance as the clear winner despite the close point difference. BCS has a few more number one’s and two’s, which is why it’s so close. Severance has basically double the total of appearances on other lists. So I get how the list works and allots points, but for me there is a clear winner.

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    adriandecker770
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    At the start of December I was working on an aggregate where first is 20 points, second is 19 points, third is 18 etc, and Severance was dominating. I think the metacritic list is fair and interesting, but I don’t love that a 3 and a 10 are the exact same points, or an 11 and a 20 are both half a point even though the difference between those two placements is enormous. Severance did often place in the top 5 and I think that’s significant, although I haven’t been keeping up with the more recent lists.

    But then the other issue is that Severance is probably performing better because more people watched it. If you get placed anywhere on a list with my system, that’s a huge benefit, whereas Better Call Saul being left off a list doesn’t mean it’s worse than Severance, it most likely means newer critics had time to watch that one season vs watching 11 seasons of TV to fully appreciate Better Call Saul’s finale. So it’s hard to say if every person writing a list had watched both shows, which would they have preferred? I feel pretty conflicted.

    And even then, a lot of really prestigious publications that I’d normally expect to agree with the aggregate named The Bear as their favourite show. I honestly don’t know what to think, I feel like this year was just way more competitive than the past few years. But I think Severance is a worthy winner for sure. It’s definitely the show that’s the most popular with people making lists, whereas I feel like BCS and The Bear had more passion. And then of course Andor performed super well because it was something that any kind of geek/nerd oriented publication could latch onto. I don’t know if I have a point here but it’s a very different year from normal. I definitely think Severance makes sense as a clear winner

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    At the start of December I was working on an aggregate where first is 20 points, second is 19 points, third is 18 etc, and Severance was dominating. I think the metacritic list is fair and interesting, but I don’t love that a 3 and a 10 are the exact same points, or an 11 and a 20 are both half a point even though the difference between those two placements is enormous. Severance did often place in the top 5 and I think that’s significant, although I haven’t been keeping up with the more recent lists. But then the other issue is that Severance is probably performing better because more people watched it. If you get placed anywhere on a list with my system, that’s a huge benefit, whereas Better Call Saul being left off a list doesn’t mean it’s worse than Severance, it most likely means newer critics had time to watch that one season vs watching 11 seasons of TV to fully appreciate Better Call Saul’s finale. So it’s hard to say if every person writing a list had watched both shows, which would they have preferred? I feel pretty conflicted. And even then, a lot of really prestigious publications that I’d normally expect to agree with the aggregate named The Bear as their favourite show. I honestly don’t know what to think, I feel like this year was just way more competitive than the past few years. But I think Severance is a worthy winner for sure. It’s definitely the show that’s the most popular with people making lists, whereas I feel like BCS and The Bear had more passion. And then of course Andor performed super well because it was something that any kind of geek/nerd oriented publication could latch onto. I don’t know if I have a point here but it’s a very different year from normal. I definitely think Severance makes sense as a clear winner

    A lot of great points! I totally agree that the placement on the lists can be an issue with MC, as there is a huge difference between certain placements (outside of 1,2,10 etc) that are awarded the same number of points. That’s why I think the dominance of Severance in the “other list” category is so important. So unless that changes drastically I’ll personally consider Severance the winner (not that anyone gives a sh*t about what I personally think).

    I think Severance has quite a bit of passion. While I agree that people have had more time to watch it, I think it also speaks to the strength of the show that it was released almost a year ago and still did so well.

    With BCS, I do wonder if some of the many high placements are an homage/sentimental pick as a nod to the series as a whole as opposed to solely judging this season on its strength alone (as was done with Severance, The Bear, etc.). So there is that factor (maybe).

    I think the list bodes well for Severance at the GG and CC, and I have it predicted, but who knows!

    Really appreciate all the work you’ve done with the lists on here! Thank you!

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    jjjmoss
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    netflix

    2022 – 0/top 10

    2021 – 1/top 10

    2020 – 1/top 10

    cindy holland leaving really did make them walmart huh?

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    Victor
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    netflix

    2022 – 0/top 10

    2021 – 1/top 10

    2020 – 1/top 10

    cindy holland leaving really did make them walmart huh?

    I don’t think they are even sending majority of their series for critics anymore, except for Wednesday and The Crown. Or critics just moved on because every new show from them is struggling to get even 10 reviews these days.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!

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    Victor
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    Looking at the lists, Queen’s Gambit was their last hurrah, a hit wbk, Kate robbed Anya and we will forever riot. (I know Michaela was better than both).

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!

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    Kate robbed Anya and we will forever riot.

     

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    I don’t think they are even sending majority of their series for critics anymore, except for Wednesday and The Crown. Or critics just moved on because every new show from them is struggling to get even 10 reviews these days.

    Netflix do put out some garbage, but I do think reviewers have an inherent bias that seeps through and they don’t afford them the grace they do with other networks and they do tend to have a tendency to project their beliefs of Netflix viewers intelligence through them

    Both She Hulk and Ms Marvel, IP series with female leads, were afforded a lot more grace than Wednesday for reasons I was never particularly clear on.

    The Rings of Power was afforded a ridiculous about of leeway compared to The Sandman for spending a lot of time worldbuilding.

    Stranger Things had reams of time spent on how “people won’t go back to this because it’s too long” which is more an (incorrect projection) than a review.

     

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    FNLlove
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    Forbes and RadioTimes.com both came out with Severance at #1.

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    adriandecker770
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    https://www.metacritic.com/feature/tv-critics-pick-10-best-tv-shows-of-2022

    Jan 4 update. Andor has overtaken Better Call Saul by two points, but Severance has a 5.5 point lead and is in first. I think House of the Dragon also made a pretty dramatic leap to seventh place. The Sandman and The Patient were also added

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    Penemue
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    Interesting that both 2020 and 2021 had a very clear frontrunner (I May Destroy You and Succession being respectively 74 and 52 points above the shows in second), but it looks like Severance, Andor, Better Call Saul, and The Bear are all going to end up roughly neck-and-neck.

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