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  • adriandecker770
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    #1205222367

    I’m not sure if this will be interesting to anyone else, but I’ve been keeping track of weekly best of lists for a couple of years and I thought maybe someone else would find it interesting.

    I think it provides an interesting alternative to Metacritic scores, as they’re often based on only the first few episodes while this shows what shows critics are keeping up with, or if they’ve changed their minds (ie. House of the Dragon did much better here than in Metacritic. The inverse here is For All Mankind, which had a good Metacritic score but very quickly fell off of weekly lists, indicating that it wasn’t holding enough passion from critics to make it in the year end aggregate.) I also just like to see what currently airing shows might be worth my time.

    Here’s the types of lists I plan on counting:

    Weekly:

    Paste Magazine, Tuesdays (ranked top 10 plus Honourable Mentions, although this week it’s only a top 5)

    The Ringer, Fridays (ranked top ten)

    Monthly:

    Decider (ranked top 10- 15 list)

    Time Magazine (Unranked top 5, new shows only)

    Randomly:

    These are lists that get continuously updated over the course of the year, so they aren’t a “best of the month” or “best of the week,” but they’ll add new shows every month or so. Or sometimes they just stop updating randomly in the middle of the year. There are way too many of these to list here, but notable examples are Vulture, Polygon, Thrillist, and Esquire.

    Anyway, the first list of 2023 was on January 3rd, from Paste, but I was out of town. Normally the shows have to have aired an episode in the previous week, but for shows that dropped all their episodes at once (ie. the Netflix binge model) they’re eligible for the next four weeks:

    Honourable Mentions: Little America, Emily in Paris, His Dark Materials, I Hate Suzie Too

    5. Spy X Family

    4. The Recruit

    3. Welcome to Chippendales

    2. Fleishman is in Trouble

    1. Slow Horses

    Please let me know if you have any thoughts, suggestions, if you think this is a good idea, and please feel free to submit any other lists that you think fit this criteria. I’m also thinking of doing an aggregate of these kinds of lists but this is already getting pretty long so I’ll save that for another post.

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    I think one thing I’d flag is picking a good cross-section of publications who are catering to different audiences (this is easier said than done) mostly because I tend to think one of the boards strongest tendencies is to be blindsided by nominations clearly made by demos we’re not paying attention to.

    (Like, I love The Ringer, especially their podcasts, but that site is targeting a very specific demo. They’re really good at doing their thing within targeting that audience, but they do have some blindspots especially with female led shows. So I am cool at using them but it would be a good idea to maybe look at something to offset it so we don’t become an echo chamber).

     

     

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    adriandecker770
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    Honestly I just want to count as many publications as I can, if you have any other ones doing this kind of list please let me know! For the aggregate, I didn’t mention it here because Allan Veríssimo is already doing a great job of keeping track of it, but I plan on including TV Line’s performer of the week lists in my aggregate, although I won’t post them in this thread.

    I feel like Paste is also pretty contrary to what a normal critics list would look like; they’re always very favourable towards IP and Netflix shows when other publications ignore them. I didn’t keep a track of individual weekly lists but Wednesday always placed highly when it was airing, and TV Line definitely taps into different demos, it always highlights broadcast TV. They also listed Dead to Me and The Crown in their lists when other publications were ignoring them, although that could be just that judging performances vs a show as a whole is a pretty different thing, but I like the diversity that adding TV Line in brings to the aggregate (although The Ringer’s weekly list was also pretty friendly to The Crown). Edit: Decider also skews much more broad and crowd pleasing in their monthly picks, as does Paste

    I did a practice aggregate of the weekly lists for December to see what critically acclaimed stuff came out too late to really make a dent in the metacritic aggregate, and this is what it looked like. (Points were given using the same rules as the metacritic aggregate. I’ve only included shows that got 2 or more points. I also excluded The White Lotus and Abbott Elementary because they already performed so well on the year end, and I excluded Ghosts because all of its points were coming from Paste, which already included it on their year end list):

    Slow Horses 12

    Fleishman is in Trouble 10

    The Sex Lives of College Girls 5

    Willow 5

    Doom Patrol 4.5

    Yellowstone 4

    Welcome to Chippendales 4

    I Hate Suzie 4

    1923 3.5

    Spy X Family 3.5

    Mythic Quest 3

    Little America 3

    Kindred 3

    Dragon Age Absolution 3

    The Recruit 3

    Gossip Girl 2.5

    Jack Ryan 2

    Emily in Paris 2

    Harry & Meghan 2

    Usually when I do this I restart the list in the middle of the year-end lists, as I basically intend this to cover the period between the year end lists at the start of December and the mid-year lists in June. Should I reset the point totals or keep in the shows from December?

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    Usually when I do this I restart the list in the middle of the year-end lists, as I basically intend this to cover the period between the year end lists at the start of December and the mid-year lists in June. Should I reset the point totals or keep in the shows from December?

    I’m not sure I completely get your question but I would hold over titles that end in 2023 given there seems to have been petitioning by last years shows that fit that to be considered here. So maybe move 1923, George and Tammy, Welcome to Chippendales in to (this) year’s list?

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    any donwload link and where can i watch it..?

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    adriandecker770
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    I’m not sure I completely get your question but I would hold over titles that end in 2023 given there seems to have been petitioning by last years shows that fit that to be considered here. So maybe move 1923, George and Tammy, Welcome to Chippendales in to (this) year’s list?

    I think you got my point, I think having aired an episode in 2023 is a good benchmark.

    Note: Another reason I want to do this is that, while the link I send will work for now, every week the new list overwrites the old one, so you won’t be able to check previous week’s lists. That’s why I think it’s nice to have a record of the older list to be able to say “well, back in January they loved Slow Horses, even though now in December no one’s talking about it,” as a hypothetical example

    The Ringer (January 6)

    1. 1923
    2. Abbott Elementary
    3. Slow Horses
    4. Yellowstone
    5. Fleishman is in Trouble
    6. Mythic Quest
    7. Kaleidoscope
    8. Star Wars: The Bad Batch
    9. Paul T. Goldman
    10. Copenhagen Cowboy

    Next update will be Paste’s weekly list on Tuesday, January 10th.

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    Paste (January 10th Update)

    Honourable Mentions: Mythic Quest (Missed last week), Little America (same), Ghosts (Winter Premiere)

    10. Ginny & Georgia (Premiere)

    9. Jack Ryan (Missed last week)

    8. The Rig (Premiere)

    7. Willow (Missed last week)

    6. Will Trent (Premiere)

    5. The Recruit (down 1)

    4. Mayfair Witches (Premiere)

    3. The Lying Life of Adults (Premiere)

    2. All Creatures Great and Small (American Premiere)

    1. Abbott Elementary (Winter Premiere)

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    The Ringer (January 13th Update)

    10. Paul T. Goldman (Down 1)

    9. Mythic Quest (Down 3)

    8. Break Point (Premiere)

    7. Yellowstone (Down 3)

    6. Slow Horses (Down 3)

    5. Copenhagen Cowboy (Up 5)

    4. Star Wars: The Bad Batch (Up 4)

    3. 1923 (Down 2)

    2. Abbott Elementary (Same)

    1. The Last of Us (Premiere)

    Updated aggregate (TV Line included):

    1. Slow Horses (14 points)

    2. Fleishman is in Trouble (11 points)

    3. 1923 (7.5 points)

    4. Abbott Elementary (7 points)

    5. Willow (6 points)

    6. Yellowstone (6 points)

    7. Mythic Quest (5.5 points)

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    Paste (January 17th Update)

    No Honourable Mentions this week

    5. All Creatures Great and Small (Down 3)

    4. Abbott Elementary (Down 3)

    3. Ghosts (Honourable Mention)

    2. Willow (Up 6)

    1. The Last of Us (Premiere)

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    The Ringer (January 20th Update)

    10. Slow Horses (Down 4)

    9. The Bachelor (Premiere)

    8. Copenhagen Cowboy (Down 3)

    7. The Makanai: Cooking for the Maiko House (Premiere)

    6. That ’90s Show (Premiere)

    5. 1923 (Down 2)

    4. Star Wars: The Bad Batch (Same)

    3. Break Point (Up 5)

    2. Abbott Elementary (Same)

    1. The Last of Us (Same)

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    Paste (January 24th Update):

    5. The Legend of Vox Machina (Premiere)

    4. All Creatures Great and Small (Up 1)

    3. Abbott Elementary (Up 1)

    2. That ’90s Show (Premiere)

    1. The Last of Us (Same)

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    The Ringer (January 27th Update)

    10. Paul T. Goldman (Missed last week)

    9. The Bachelor (Same)

    8. Break Point (Down 5)

    7. 1923 (Down 2)

    6. That ’90s Show (Same)

    5. Star Wars: The Bad Batch (Down 1)

    4. Shrinking (Premiere)

    3. Abbott Elementary (Down 1)

    2. Poker Face (Premiere)

    1. The Last of Us (Same)

    Updated aggregate (With TLOU taking the top spot after only two episodes):

    1. The Last of Us (16 points)
    2. Slow Horses (15 points)
    3. Abbott Elementary (12 points)
    4. Fleishman is in Trouble (11 points)
    5. 1923 (10.5 points)
    6. Willow (8 points)
    7. Yellowstone (6 points)
    8. Mythic Quest (5.5 points)
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    TV Guide’s Best New TV Shows of 2023 (January Update)

    The Last of Us

    The Traitors

    Poker Face

    Break Point

    Extraordinary

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    2. Willow (Up 6)

    What’s the deal with Willow? Can it go Family, or does it’s winter positioning mean it has to go Primetime?

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    I don’t really know the eligibility rules for Family vs. Primetime so I’m also very curious. I also haven’t seen it yet so I’m curious what audience they’re aiming for, on the one hand they’re obviously trying to get fans of the original film which would push it towards a more mature audience, but the subject matter and premise feels like it could fit very well into YA fantasy. I feel like it’s not going to become a thing, but maybe it could sneak in a nomination BTL? I’m really not sure. Sorry, this doesn’t really answer your question but I’ve been curious for a while if Willow could make a play anywhere.

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