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    Finally finised The Americans. This is quite literally one of the greatest pieces of television EVER. PERIOD.

    What they achieved here was nothing short of phenomenal. From the writing, acting, directing, technical aspects (which are ridiculously underrated), everything was perfect. Matthew Rhys rightfully won for the final season and should’ve won for season 4 as well. Keri Russell was beyond phenomenal in basically every season and her not winning a single Emmy is absolutely ridiculous. Her performance in the final season, especially, was breathtaking. Noah Emmerich and Holly Taylor were robbed for the final season, they both should’ve been nominated. Alison Wright not getting nominated for season 4 is painful. Deserved for season 3 as well. Margo Martindale girl, you were amazing in season 1 and 2, but you deserve jail for robbing Lois Smith and Annet Mahendru for those noms (and wins) for season 3 and season 4, respectively. I would’ve nominated Austin Abrams (season 6) and Irina Dubova (season 5) for Guest noms as well. Miriam Shor was incredible in her guest peformance in season 6, but unfortunately was in too many eps to be eligible. Same with Frank Langella during the course of season 3 to season 5.

    Also, “START” has to be one of the greatest series finales of all time. I was on the edge of my seat throughout the entire finale and I shed some tears during the train scene and the ending scene. “We’ll get used to it”…my heart broke. Rightfully won writing but how was this not nominated for directing?! Absolute robbery.

    Regarding the seasons, season 6 is easily the best, followed by season 4, with season 5 being the weakest for me. I would rank them like 6>4>3>2>1>5. Season 6, 4 and 3 should’ve won Series.

    Really going to miss the show…

    Quite literally as good as television can get.

    To quote someone:On the surface, “The Americans” is one of those “mismatched buddy” shows: a young couple teamed together purely for reasons of expediency. However, it runs much deeper than that. Beyond maintaining the charade of a false identity and masquerading as someone you are not, lies the complexity of their developing relationship: exploring the nature of love when you live with someone who lies for a living; understanding what drives them, the far reaching consequences of their choices, & the rationalization of their acts of violence.

    At the heart of “The Americans” is a family infected by the conviction that loyalty to country overshadows family or one’s own soul. As viewers, we’re asked the tough questions: If the couple wore blue instead of red, would it change anything? Are spies heroes – or pawns? Is patriotism formed by rational choice – or the product of where we’re born? At what point is the loss of one’s humanity too high a price?

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    Watched WeCrashed

    What was the point of this show? It hasn’t been well laid out to create a direction worth looking forward to. Doesn’t help it is headed by Leto whose performance is hollow, without any charm (something that Adam used to ooze in every interview) and he plays a character who is very one-dimensional.

    Watch it if you don’t have anything to do and want to be charmed by Anne’s performance. Nothing extraordinary worth noting and in the sea of shows on ‘Fallen Tech Titans,’ just watch Dropout instead.

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    Watched Severance

    Damn this is absolutely brilliant! Wow. I am usually wary of sci-fi dystopian shows but the world of Lumion is so accessible and engaging. The writing, direction, and cinematography are top-notch and the show greatly benefits from fantastic performances across the board. The finale kept me edged to the seat and S2 really can’t come any sooner.

    I hope the team is able to match up to the quality next season because they deserve a Best Drama win! (This year seems tough with Succession in the cycle) Adam Scott and Patricia Arquette will be worthy and deserve nominations but Britt Lower will be a delightful addition to Best Actress lineup. Helly is my favorite and I am looking forward to what Brett does with the characterization of her outie, Helena next season.

    Also ‘she is alive’!?

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    Big Boys: just started the show and the second episode was pure perfection, I am shocked on how much I loved it.

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    Watched Severance

    Damn this is absolutely brilliant! Wow. I am usually wary of sci-fi dystopian shows but the world of Lumion is so accessible and engaging. The writing, direction, and cinematography are top-notch and the show greatly benefits from fantastic performances across the board. The finale kept me edged to the seat and S2 really can’t come any sooner.

    I hope the team is able to match up to the quality next season because they deserve a Best Drama win! (This year seems tough with Succession in the cycle) Adam Scott and Patricia Arquette will be worthy and deserve nominations but Britt Lower will be a delightful addition to Best Actress lineup. Helly is my favorite and I am looking forward to what Brett does with the characterization of her outie, Helena next season.

    Also ‘she is alive’!?

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    Season two has a lot work with too. I feel like they can actually spend a lot of time in flashbacks showing how life was pre-Gemma’s death. There’s even mystery there in the way the characters described it in the show. And Dan Erickson has said he could make it work 2-5 seasons so I am excited to see what they do with it. Hoping they don’t Westworld it up.

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    Started on the first episode of “The Staircase.” The Michael Peterson case is a big deal around here, and from the documentary to the podcast and everything else, it’s such a well-worn story that’s so lurid and disgusting that it’s hard to watch fictionalized. However, I think it will be a major Emmy contender this month, so I had to at least see the premiere. It’s directed well by Antonio Campos. Feels very of the 2000s era without overdoing it too much with the production design or costumes. Editing was all over the place with the time jumps, but maybe that franticness will right itself in the coming episodes. All of the extended family members were confusing to keep track of. I was extremely skeptical of Colin Firth’s casting, b/c he looks nothing like Peterson, for starters, and I wondered if he could bring life to such a seedy role like this that he’s never done before. Peterson’s so inscrutable in general, so I guess it works out. Accent work was great at first listen. Flat and nondescript “British style,” but Peterson’s voice kind of lends itself to that versus a stereotypical Southern drawl. It looks like Toni Collette will get more to do than I previously thought, but we’ll see if her lead placement is justified. I’m bracing myself for what’s coming, with all the trial shenanigans, the documentary crew, the death reenactments, and that damn “owl theory” defense, ugh. But this limited series looks extremely bingeable, so there’s that, at least.

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    Finished Modern Family and I’m speechless. It feels like a void now. A terrific show deserving of everything it got and more and wish they come back for a reunion episode or something. Wonderful relatable storytelling and a really heartwarming episode every 2-3 episodes. I’m glad I gave this a second try. I’m also happy it’s performing brilliantly on IMDB charts as more and more people are discovering it.
    Season Grades:

    Season 1: A+
    Season 2: A+
    Season 3: A+
    Season 4: A
    Season 5: A+
    Season 6: A+ (best season)
    Season 7: A-
    Season 8: A-
    Season 9: B+
    Season 10: A-
    Season 11: A+

    A RANT against copycat stale spinless critics/publications coming up from my side.

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    Modern Family felt extremely repetitive and too cute after like 2-3 seasons and I just never finished watching because it was boring to me. It was still cute and charming and funny at times but so vacuous. Didn’t like Veep either for that matter. Part of the reason I thought comedy was so weak the past decade. Fleabag winning was the best series win in the past decade for me.

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    Modern Family felt extremely repetitive and too cute after like 2-3 seasons and I just never finished watching because it was boring to me. It was still cute and charming and funny at times but so vacuous.

    Taste differs from person to person so I respect this honest opinion. I do agree that repetition started to an extent to which they countered by an array of unconventional episodes in S6 (which made it the best season) and also in the next seasons but the biggest problem the show faced was that the child characters grew up and so they started having lives largely independent of their extended family which made it difficult to keep all storylines cohesive and also with four of the six children entering the rebellious teenage phase (Haley already having passed the phase).

    The problem I have is with the critics/publications, reading whose Predictions etc it’s just obvious they don’t watch the new seasons of shows and just echo what has been said by someone else. I’m trying to form a well structured rant against them

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    Yeah, I don’t know how you forced yourself to watch it. Even if I tried I would be on my phone or lap top and realize I missed a bunch of it. I’ll never understand how people never got sick of it like I did but as you mention that just a difference of opinion. I think everyone involved was extremely talented, it just never felt important or groundbreaking to me after the first couple seasons.

    Not that shows have to be important or groundbreaking but to win 5 series Emmys to me it does. I feel like by season 5 I didn’t even know a single person who still watched it.

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    Currently in Seinfeld final season and it’s pure comedy gold. The episode Kramer build a talk show scenario in his appartament, just genius and delightful.

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    I’ll never understand how people never got sick of it like I did but as you mention that just a difference of opinion.

    Well I think that’s a matter of how you look at shows. Most people watch comedy shows for pure entertainment and to lighten oneself up and for them shows like Modern Family, The Office etc are perfect because they aren’t saying all that much but consistently deliver on laughs and quality of episodes.
    But when you watch shows with somewhat of a critical lens, any show with more than 7-8 seasons will not only become monotonous but also tiring and repetitive because the showrunners simply run out of ideas. For such viewers (like most of Gold Derby and other prognosticators I assume), shows which are short (Fleabag) and very high on commentary (Hacks) are more up their alley even though they aren’t necessarily very funny (which is a reason why mainstream audiences aren’t very high on them) because a shorter show is able to provide larger and more cohesive storytelling.

    I think everyone involved was extremely talented, it just never felt important or groundbreaking to me after the first couple seasons.

    Well that’s very true. The show was really groundbreaking when it aired due to having two Latinos and a gay couple in its principal cast along with an adoptive Vietnamese daughter and the dynamics of a second marriage. (Fact: Gloria and Manny are the longest running Latino characters in US Television history while Cam and Mitchell are the longest running gay couple in US Television history). After that a lot of shows started copying the “successful” Modern Family model and with time it wasn’t as groundbreaking since a lot of similar shows sprung up.

    Not that shows have to be important or groundbreaking but to win 5 series Emmys to me it does.

    Well, Frasier wasn’t remotely as groundbreaking as Modern Family was yet won 5 Emmys. Same with The West Wing which won 4 Emmys.

    I feel like by season 5 I didn’t even know a single person who still watched it.

    That’s interesting to me because in my locality, almost everyone watched the show well into the late seasons (which I never understood why until now) and considering that it received the most votes on the unlimited ballot experiment I did, I do assume a lot of Gold Derby users/visiters also watched it for a long time.
    And the survey kind of thing which Joe’s son sent- didn’t it also have Modern Family as near the top of likes?

    P.S.: I’m liking the way we’re having a constructive argument.

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    But when you watch shows with somewhat of a critical lens, any show with more than 7-8 seasons will not only become monotonous but also tiring and repetitive because the showrunners simply run out of ideas.

    This is something I am actually afraid to admit I never even realized. All my favorite shows peak in season 4-5 and even the rare exceptions are shows that I don’t agree with the public on (I thought Weeds season 5-6 were two of the very best of the whole series). So, that’s a great point.

    Well, Frasier wasn’t remotely as groundbreaking as Modern Family was yet won 5 Emmys. Same with The West Wing which won 4 Emmys.

    Those examples are more to my point. The truly groundbreaking shows are lucky if they win for a single season. The Sopranos and a lot of comedies got robbed in their wake. In fairness to Modern Family, the more deserving shows weren’t even getting nominated.

    That’s interesting to me because in my locality, almost everyone watched the show well into the late seasons (which I never understood why until now) and considering that it received the most votes on the unlimited ballot experiment I did, I do assume a lot of Gold Derby users/visiters also watched it for a long time.
    And the survey kind of thing which Joe’s son sent- didn’t it also have Modern Family as near the top of likes?

    I have a pretty cynical view of that stuff. It’s very safe. It’s ambitious and acclaimed enough to stick with without actually having to invest much energy into either. You can have an episode on in the background and not miss much. Which a lot of shows are great for.

    FWIW, I don’t think any show deserves to win as much as they did. Not because they were bad but because there was better.

    P.S.: I’m liking the way we’re having a constructive argument.

    I’m not even trying to argue. Just venting at my confusion about something I don’t have a truly bad thing to say about it except I just don’t think it was as good. But yes, always nice to have coherent arguments on here. It’s important to be heard or feel like your POV is heard even if you disagree or someone is wrong after the fact.

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    Absolutely. The Academy snubbed shows like Community and Cougar Town and Broad City and many more from 2012-2014 resulting in relatively weak Comedy fields which didn’t actually give a guild sweeper and ratings juggernaut show like Modern Family that much of a competition. The first time Modern Family faced very stiff competition since S1 (when Glee was a heck of a strong competitior) was in 2015 (with Veep and Transparent) when they lost for the first time in 5 years. So that justifies your point.

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    You’re The worst, Bojack Horseman, and American Vandal would have been my picks over most Modern Family wins. It was a brutal period in comedy.

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