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September 24, 2020 at 7:15 pm #1203732905
For example Fleabag and Schitt’s are excellent shows and they had buzz but their buzz is nothing in comparison to the buzz of Glee, Modern Family, 30 Rock etc 10 years ago.
Thing is, I don’t think we’ll ever have shows like that ever again. Shows of insane popularity were possible in the time when there were less than a dozen channels putting out hot content. Today, Netflix alone probably puts out more quality high-profile comedy series than all of those previously mentioned networks did COMBINED. It’s nearly impossible to keep up with just that one streaming service’s content, not to mention every other medium fighting for eyes. Everyone’s watching different random things, and it’s becoming rarer and rarer than a show can really hit the zeitgeist in the way shows used to be able to. The only new one I can really think of from the past few years that’s been able to hit that level of cultural saturation where even people who don’t watch the show can recognize the characters is Stranger Things (partially The Mandalorian too but since that was already based on iconic IP I don’t really count it). The nature of overcrowded Peak TV just blocks that kind of global buzz from building for much of anything now.
And I’d argue that Fleabag was the closest to that kind of buzz, not Barry. For a couple months, you couldn’t go on the Internet without someone ranting about Fleabag or PWB. I interact with a lot of people who aren’t avid television watchers, and while a couple of them might know that Barry was the Bill Hader show, most knew what Fleabag was, and a solid amount had made it one of the few shows they’d watched that year.
ReplySeptember 24, 2020 at 6:15 pm #1203732819I kind of love how SAG is becoming much less of a bellwether for the Emmys. The two biggest acting contenders in their respective genres at the Emmys were completely shut out, and shows that SAG adore like Maisel and The Crown are starting to underwhelm (or only meet the lowest expectations) in acting at the Emmys. You could chalk it up to changes in trends, but it’s not like Succession suddenly had an explosion in attention between January and September. SAG can definitely be much more populist with big name and celebrity obsessions, but the Emmys are definitely starting to think for themselves, and I really love it.
ReplySeptember 24, 2020 at 2:32 pm #1203732382Just out of curiosity, why the confidence in P-Valley? I haven’t heard a single person talk about it outside these forums.
ReplySeptember 24, 2020 at 2:24 pm #1203732354I think Netflix will push for Ozark season 4A to make eligibility for this cycle. Sure, it’ll have to go up against The Crown season 4, but I think they’ll put their focus on The Crown in 2021 and then throw all their money behind Ozark 4B in 2022.
ReplySeptember 24, 2020 at 2:14 pm #1203732331I submit Netflix’s A Series of Unfortunate Events, which manages to somehow accomplish the extremely difficult task of capturing the absurdity and depressing comicality of Daniel Handler’s books.
When I saw the title of this forum, that was the first series that came to mind. So well-crafted on both a storytelling and technical level. One of the most underrated shows of the last half of the decade.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 10:56 pm #1203731247Future Nostalgia is pure fun and energy. I didn’t love all the songs first listening to them, but over time I realized that I couldn’t get them out of my head (in a good way) and I couldn’t stop listening to them. I adore almost every song on that album now and still put them on all the time. I can’t even explain it, just something about the production makes it impossible to not enjoy for me. I really hope Dupa gets into AOTY because she would totally completely deserve it.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 4:02 pm #1203730851Maybe I’m biased because I thought Fine Line was alright at best, but I don’t think Harry’s getting into the GF. It could happen, but if it does, I don’t see him happening over Dua.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 3:56 pm #1203730835If Insecure suddenly announces season five will be their last, the race is over.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 3:44 pm #1203730825I do, but I think they’re more likely to return than the other on-the-cusp contenders, seeing as how they have production dates starting soon while those others seem like they’ll have a longer road to filming.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 3:24 pm #1203730802Amount of nominees in each category eligible for next year.
(Assuming on-the-cusp shows The Kominsky Method, Killing Eve, and The Morning Show miss eligibility.)
COMEDY SERIES: 3/8
DRAMA SERIES: 6/8
COMEDY ACTOR: 3/6
No news on the rest of Black Monday’s season, but since it’s shortened and they already have it all written, I think they can make it happen.COMEDY ACTRESS: 5/6
DRAMA ACTOR: 5/6
(Carell has been teased to be in The Morning Show season two, but it seems as though he won’t be there in a big capacity, so I’m assuming he will be supporting or guest if he does come back.)DRAMA ACTRESS: 2/6
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR: 3/8
(Haven’t seen Ramy so I don’t know if seems Ali had a one-season role but I’ll assume he’s in season three. Also edited to include the Alan Arkin news that I only saw after I typed this out lol.)COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS: 5/8
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR: 4/8
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS: 4/8
Only Drama Actor and Drama Supporting Actress will have their winners return.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 12:46 pm #1203730471Does anyone have a list of new dramas/comedies? And confirmed limited series?
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 12:31 pm #1203730418Had no idea The Morning Show took so long last time! Makes sense with that cast though.
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 12:30 pm #1203730412I would put Succession on the cusp (it has less episodes to film and New York seems to be in a better situatuon right now), Maisel as probably making it in (I mean it’s already in pre-production) and The Morning Show as in danger (they only have one or two episodes shot and it took them 9 months to shoot the last season).
Will make those edits, thanks!
ReplySeptember 23, 2020 at 12:21 pm #1203730360This isn’t a great list, and if there are any mistakes please correct me, but this is what I could find. Shows under confirmed are only ones that have release dates.
CONFIRMED TO RETURN: Black-ish, The Crown, The Mandalorian, PEN15, Saturday Night Live
PROBABLY MAKING IT: Black Monday, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Handmaid’s Tale, Insecure, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Pose, Russian Doll, Stranger Things, This Is Us
ON THE CUSP: Better Things, Dead to Me, Modern Love, Ozark, Ramy, Succession
NOT LOOKING GOOD: Barry, Better Call Saul, Bodyguard, GLOW, The Great, Killing Eve, The Kominsky Method, Master of None, The Morning Show, What We Do in the Shadows
CONFIRMED TO NOT RETURN: Atlanta, Euphoria, Westworld
ReplySeptember 22, 2020 at 8:25 pm #1203728997On the Rocks is starting out with mixed reactions from NYFF. Still gonna predict it in Comedy at the Globes due to lack of contenders, but I think this film’s Oscar ship has sailed.
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