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May 31, 2023 at 12:46 am #1205446159
I thought Gabriel Luna was the best amongst the male guest stars from TLOU so hopefully he gets in. Not particularly fond of his episode but Offerman was good as well, unlike Bartlett who I found surprisingly bad and lacking in heft.
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May 29, 2023 at 1:03 pm #1205444848Also love the hard cut to black when Barry’s shot in the head. His end is definitive. There’s no ocean or otherworldly voice calling to him to take him to the ‘kingdom of heaven’ like he had deluded himself into believing. The show not granting him the mercy of an imagined afterlife that he had been craving for so long is its own form of punishment.
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May 29, 2023 at 12:48 pm #1205444821I don’t find it hard to believe that a white ex-marine like Barry would be turned into a martyr and absolved of all blame in the murder of a black woman in the end. The show has painted a very grim picture of America, especially after the time jump where guns are being sold like any other innocuous item in a supermarket and where people are becoming abnormaly desensitised to violence. The show’s commentary feels even more astute and incisive after witnessing the real life response to Jordan Neely’s murder at the hands of another white ex-marine, Daniel Penny. Penny being labelled a hero by right wing media, released without any charges initially despite cold, hard evidence, raising nearly $2 million for his legal defense fund, openly claiming he wouldn’t change anything and regrets nothing etc. are things you just can’t make up. There’s an obvious Hollywood exaggeration here that serves its own purpose but overall, I found the epilogue completely fitting with what the show has been trying to say throughout its run.
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May 28, 2023 at 8:38 pm #1205444070S3 mid? They gave us this:
and you call them mid? No, ma’am. Absolutely not.
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May 27, 2023 at 11:34 am #1205442982So, what I could make of the lineup from that pic:
– Jennifer Coolidge & Jeremy Allen White
– Natasha Lyonne & Melanie Lynskey
– Jennifer Garner & Sheryl Lee Ralph
– Jenna Ortega & Elle Fanning
– Theo James & Brett Goldstein
– Katherine Heigl & Ellen Pompeo
– Steven Yeun & Pedro Pascal
– Taron Egerton & Rachel Weisz
– Claire Danes & Kieran Culkin
– Hayden Christensen & Diego Luna
– Emily Blunt & Brian Cox
– Jason Segel & Ali Wong
– Meghann Fahy & Elizabeth OlsenThe White Lotus (3), Beef (2), Succession (2) with multiple people doing it.
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May 27, 2023 at 6:33 am #1205442840I always thought that season 4 had such a negative feedback that made season 5 lost the spot even thought it improved on the noms (Krauser, writing and directing back + Clarkson winning), but it was the system?
I guess ”House” and ”Grey’s Anatomy” got the spot for ”Lost” and ”Six Feet Under”, right? More populist choices… I guess.
No, Grey’s was locked. It hit all major guilds and had wins with PGA, SAG and WGA (New Series) around that time, alongside its TCA and Globe wins. It probably would have won with the current system in place.
The West Wing only survived because of the juries (half of its final season noms were because of it) so that and House would be out most likely.
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May 26, 2023 at 9:57 am #1205442248The thing is, the system is currently designed to favour well seen shows being nominated (with the restricted ballot to try and prevent that being the only thing). I hate to say it but there may come a time when they need to go to panels again if things just aren’t seen enough.
Panels are not gonna solve this problem though. They would still need a shortlist to work from and that shortlist would still be populated by well seen shows. The last time this system was in place, you had Desperate Housewives and 30 Rock occupying more than half the spots on a shortlist for example. There was no The Wire in the acting shortlists, there were no people like Connie Britton that critics etc were championing. The pool of contenders was extended but it was still filled with mostly familiar old faces.
And that’s without mentioning the idiosyncrasies of the system that wolfali already highlighted. We just saw that this year with Ambika Mod’s BAFTA snub as her show is showered with wins and noms. Looking at the BAFTA noms this year, they can’t even be guaranteed to yield more diverse results than the usual membership vote.
There’s a reason the Emmys moved away from this system after just a year because it was hardly successful in getting underseen shows in. People expected exciting new noms but it ended up just extending the shelf life of traditional baits like The West Wing. With this system, it’s likelier that Emmys would go back to showering expired baits like THT with more noms than going in a different direction with stuff like Pachinko and the like. Would something like Barry even get in anywhere with these panels in place? The limited ballot will hopefully rein in the occasional name checking related with shows but even if it doesn’t, is a system like this worth the price?
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May 25, 2023 at 4:59 pm #1205441484Andor submitting just a single director, especially one who has been nominated multiple times recently, is the best decision they could have made. Every bit of advantage is crucial seeing how seemingly on the edge it’s in this category.
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May 25, 2023 at 4:51 pm #1205441463I don’t disagree but I also think conversely the same could be said of Apple getting zero drama series nominations after having two big above the line drama contenders in Severance and The Morning Show and coming off of consecutive successes at the Emmys and Oscars over the past two years with CODA, Ted Lasso and Causeway. I don’t think any network or streamer is necessarily guaranteed to have multiple nominations or likewise that it is impossible for another to get more than 2. We’ve seen many cases of both happening over the years.
Last year is a good example with Hulu getting 3 shows in for limited series when HBO and Netflix only got in one each. Both of them even had perfectly strong second choices on paper; acting+writing+directing noms, major guild wins. Hulu’s overperformance is made even more interesting by the fact that before last year, it had only ever gotten 3 different shows nominated for the top award. They surpassed that in a single year with the three limited nominees + OMITB in comedy. At the end of the day, even Emmy favourite networks/streamers aren’t owed anything.
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May 23, 2023 at 4:37 pm #12054391232.8 GPA sobbing like he’s valedictorian https://t.co/8ef3eKqIRL
— Маделейн . (@normalmadeline) May 23, 2023
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May 18, 2023 at 9:12 pm #1205432429I’m telling you guys, The Diplomat is happening in Series.
Good numbers + good notices from critics and audiences + fun/easy to watch + Netflix power + wide open 8th slot = perfect opportunity
Feel all these arguments fit Queen Charlotte even better? Much bigger audience, bigger campaign priority, good BTL appeal, voters are already familiar with the universe, not just a Shonda Rhimes produced show but a Shonda Rhimes created one (unlike Bridgerton) etc. in addition to the ones you mentioned. Shonda even got Kamala Harris to endorse it:
My friend Shonda Rhimes is an inspiration to so many. Through her shows, she helps redefine the roles that actors of color can play and inspires young artists to dream with ambition.
To Shonda and the cast of Queen Charlotte, I wish you all the best on tonight's premiere. pic.twitter.com/K1vmuyRwZX
— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) May 4, 2023
so I can only imagine what they have planned for it further down the line in terms of an awards push. In a sea of mostly white shows, it particularly stands out. Plus, the fact it primarily skews female in its viewership helps in that regard even further.
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May 17, 2023 at 11:18 pm #1205431535Wasn’t it Hiam who wasn’t even submitted last year?
Yes.
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May 16, 2023 at 9:44 am #1205430407He can’t submit both since he’s the sole writer on both.
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May 16, 2023 at 7:53 am #1205430271To be fair it has been almost two months since it has finished airing. Limited series don’t really tend to have that long a hold. What is more interesting about is it that it seems to have settled around 25k votes on IMDB which is much more in the range of shows like Bad Sisters or The English instead of Pam & Tommy. Although at the same time IMDB has such a strong bias towards male oriented shows that I don’t know how accurate a reflection that is of its popularity (on TVTime for example it has almost 125k followers).
FWIW, on Letterboxd, it is significantly ahead of Pam & Tommy and the difference between it and The English is close to 13:1 which is gigantic.
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May 15, 2023 at 8:29 pm #1205430120It definitely deserves a costume nod but I don’t think Netflix will submit it anywhere outside of TV Movie tbh.
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