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On Ice Spice, “Boy’s a Liar” remains the better option for her. I think Ariana had a bit of this dilemma in 2020 with the Bieber collab and the Gaga one and ultimately won with the Gaga one, so, it could play to Ice Spice’s gain in the same way here.

I feel this rule should be revised to not more than one appearance by a lead artist i.e. since Ice Spice is featured on “Karma” and is a co-lead on “Liar” then she should be able to qualify both songs for nods.

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Postdigger wrote:

Grammys are actually pretty easy to predict, people just let their Stan glasses get in the way of making meaningful predictions…Last year was actually the first year in a while there was genuine suprise with the GF winners…Just 2 years ago many publications were predicting an Olivia Sweep when it was never going to happen with Silk Sonic in contention, ditto those predicting Beyonce to win Aoty last year…

They’re by no means “easy” to predict, especially when compared to the other award shows. For the Oscars and the likes, you literally just have to look at critics’ year-end lists and maybe narrow your selections a bit to English-language films unless it’s something glaring like a Parasite or Squid Game.

With the Grammys, there’s the issue (that the Recording Academy itself creates) where year-end lists aren’t out by nominations time. But ideally mid-year lists, aggregates (like Metacritic), and other measures of “best albums of XXXX so far” would be so that’s not entirely an excuse for crappy nominations.

When it comes to winners, there’s almost no excuse. We have the lists; we have the final aggregates; we have your nominees. By all measures, it should be “easy” predicting a winner, yet we still get utterly disappointed often.

Why should we care about the “favorites” of an organization that claims to “separate the art from the artist” when making our predictions when even that bit isn’t so clear these days?

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poplife wrote:

Bad Guy (and abcdefu too for the record) is an excellent song and nitpicking lyrics won’t change that

It’s a great song in the same way “Old Town Road” is a great song. You don’t need Carole King lyrics to make a great song.

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(Goldwing Reborn) wrote:

I think I have already made the case for Bad Guy and Billie clear in a previous comment…. On the other hand: voting for 10 nominees =/= voting for one winner, the voter demographic is still too wide to judge everyone by the same standards.

My point wasn’t “bad guy” necessarily but “bad guy” over “Norman fucking Rockwell”? Over “Lover” even? And you’re making the case for “they care about the lyrics”? I just feel it’s whatever’s convenient for them/whatever narrative they want to create.

“bad guy” clearly won because they wanted Billie to be the next “Sailing” guy (narrative).

Silk Sonic only won because they—for whatever reason I’m still yet to comprehend—wanted to give them a clean sweep (narrative).

“Just Like That” was written by only one person who’s an industry legend and they also get to piss off Taylor Swift’s fanbase, not that Bonnie didn’t deserve the award in good measure though (convenient).

 

That’s the way I see it at least. I’m convinced the same people producing these whack nominees are screening each submission’s lyrical content/song structure.

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(Goldwing Reborn) wrote:

She is a decent winner and it has nothing to do with her popularity, but with her storytelling. There is nothing else to explain. About Kill Bill I love the song but the narrative of the resentful ex-girlfriend committing murder doesn’t sound like something the academy would vote for.

LMAO you think the people who voted “my mommy likes to sing along with me” and had the audacity to nominate “abcdefu” for songwriting give a damn about the lyrical content of what they vote in SOTY? We must be watching different Grammys then.

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Jacob Boe wrote:

Anyways… I’m looking for insight. I’ve followed the Grammys for several years now and I have a pretty thorough understanding of how they work (procedures, trends, eligibility periods, etc.). What I don’t understand is why they work that way. Specifically, the omission of indie music. Just like they aggregate critics’ top 10 album lists, Metacritic does the same for film and television. But what’s striking is that the top ten overall in both of those screen media almost always end up receiving an Oscar or Emmy nom, and if something doesn’t it’s usually only one or two of the ten; the same can’t be said for music. In fact, it’s often the inverse: only one or two from the top ten eventually receive Grammy recognition. It’s just so confusing to me why there would be such a disconnect between critics and the industry on what is the best. My whole life I’ve kinda only listened to Billboard Hot 100 Top 40 and Billboard 200 Top 10 (and Grammys, AMAs, VMAs, etc., of course), so I assumed it was because it was inaccessible. But I’ve been driving a lot the last few weeks and listened to some critically acclaimed albums by AAPI artists in the car to commemorate the month, and that’s clearly not the case. I mean Sawayama (so good btw) is literally just like Sour with the Y2K sensibilities and basic pop characteristics (hooks, digestible choruses, repetition). A snippet from Be the Cowboy literally became a viral TikTok sound. Jubilee is super joyful. I’m obviously missing something. I assume none of you read this in full lol but if you did any and all discourse would be beneficial.

Even with the likes of the Oscars, you get the occasional Crash. But the Grammys more often than not don’t even try to be in touch with the critics. It is rare you see something actually deserving of the top prize (AOTY) by critical measure winning the top prize.

Instead, the AOTY lineups are bombarded with Billboard chart-toppers and out-of-the-blue picks that “industry connects” or “favorites” can only be the likely reason. So that’s why we find ourselves “predicting” the most random shit on this forum at the end of the day.

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Ugh, I love “Building a Mystery” so much but I don’t think Mariah was even in second place because Shawn won ROTY.

“On & On” snatched that win in R&B Female. Like, no questions asked.

And yeah, nothing was gonna defeat something like “I Believe I Can Fly” that year in R&B Song. Second place easily would’ve been “On & On”.

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futurehours wrote:

Haven’t talked here before but I’m just curious what you guys think about what JVKE’s chances for nominations would be since his song Golden Hour is so popular.

None, girl. None.

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GD wrote:

And The Weeknd.

After Hours was never a threat in AOTY and most definitely neither was Harry Styles. I doubt either of them even stood a chance in BPVA against Taylor and Dua.

The acclaim for Fetch the Bolt Cutters was insane—it holds a high-90 score to this day on Metacritic—so its absence from the AOTY lineup (even with the NRC involved) was most likely a block because she would go on to snatch Best Alternative Music Album and even an extra win for Rock Performance.

The Weeknd’s strong suit was “Blinding Lights” whose complete shutout was the real shocker of the 2020 Grammys. And yeah, Changes over After Hours in Best Pop Vocal Album that year is still a crime against humanity, but we’ve come to expect crappy decisions like that from the Recording Academy.

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I agree Bey will submit to Rap. She’s been clinging onto that category ever since her success with “Savage” but she might be “HEATED” out to another category though. As for ROTY though, ain’t happenin’ unless it becomes an “Old Town Road”-level hit.

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PopGuy wrote:

Y’all sound like broken records you said the same things prior to folklore getting nominated. Many of you were so sure she would get snubbed. You people didn’t think she could do it with 1989 either.

I don’t remember it this way. It became a Fiona-v.-Taylor race upon its release. And when we saw Fiona was blocked, we all knew deep down who would win.

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K4AIROS wrote:

Could Double Fantasy by The Weekend and Future get nominated for anything?

No since he’s not submitting anything anymore.

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(Goldwing Reborn) wrote:

I find it too funny to get to the point of claiming that Miley won’t get any nominations at all. GET REAL! All someone has to do to appear in the general field is to be one of the top 5/6 artists on Billboard. We learned that with Justin, we learned that with Lizzo….

So a guaranteed GF slot for Morgan Wallen then? If anyone has the Hot 100 in a chokehold right now, it’s him. And that’s kinda out of the norm for “country”. Payola breaking new ground these days.

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Gucci wrote:

Honey, I get what you are saying. The kids on here are NOT fully aware of Beyoncé’s songwriting accusations. It is too much to type. On another note, it is interesting that Beyoncé has NOT ever accepted her televised songwriting Grammys. She was “rehearsing” when “Single Ladies” won Song of the Year. She was “stuck in traffic” when “Cuff It” won Best R&B Song. Homegirl knows better.

FUNNY ENOUGH I Googled this before writing my last post and she did accept Best Rap Song in 2021.

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Slw84 wrote:

I need Flowers to get her something at least. BPVA is a longshot but Flowers could take ROTY while Kill Bill Takes SOTY or Kill bill takes ROTY while Flowers takes Best pop solo and Taylor can get Best Pop vocal album.

I feel “Flowers” will at best be “Paper Planes”-ed (ROTY and not a single thing else).