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February 24, 2021 at 3:49 pm #1204059624
Officially titled House Of Gucci.February 24, 2021 at 12:16 pm #1204059273
Ted Lasso supporting actors are awfully bland and don’t even deserve nominations.February 24, 2021 at 10:44 am #1204058991
Last minute push for CuocoFebruary 24, 2021 at 8:26 am #1204058648
I’m not predicting it and I’m maybe only welcoming the thought because “The Crown” winning Drama Series seems like such an easy foregone conclusion, but I could see them going with “The Mandalorian” since it is the bright and shiny thing on the TV side and they could claim dibs on being the first awards body to recognize it with a series win. That being said, they haven’t really gone for a genre show in a while (if you can even count “Lost” or “The X-Files” as comps), which is the same reason I don’t think “Lovecraft Country” will win either. “Bridgerton” would’ve been such an obvious alternative if it had been nominated, and something about “The Crown” being a surefire frontrunner with an organization that we know favors new shows doesn’t make me feel completely confident. But I’m not bold enough to make the change, at least not today. Check back on Sunday afternoon.
I agree that I don’t think The Crown is this absolute lock. However, when looking at the alternatives, nothing makes much sense. The Mandalorian has the buzz and the acclaim, but no Drama Series has won without an acting nomination in the past 20 years. Not only that, but the Drama winner is often paired with an Acting win (13/20). Of course, The Mandalorian due to its nature is not an acting showcase, but it would still be strange for the HFPA to award it when they aren’t even fans of sci fi programs. They really would have a strong desire to be able to claim they were the first ones to award it to actually do it.
The acting nominations stats would also eliminate Lovecraft Country from the race. Then we have Ozark that has the acting nominations and the growing buzz but that’s a 3rd season show that can’t even win Series at the awards that love it the most, The Emmys. Then we have Ratched, that is a first season show (something the HFPA loves to award), an audience hit and has 2 acting nominations. However, it would probably be the worst critically received winner in the category for a long time. But, I dont think Gabarnes43 is wrong by thinking it could be the spoiler to The Crown, because there is a path for it. I also think Sarah Paulson is particuarly underestimated for the win considering she is the only nominee from a first season show in her category, plays an iconic character in an audience hit.
So ultimately, betting against The Crown just isn’t a smart idea.February 22, 2021 at 12:52 pm #1204054974
Deleting multiple posts to make it seem like I’m talking to myself? Not a good look. I won’t comment in this thread any further so people can enjoy the announcements.February 22, 2021 at 12:09 pm #1204054867
Yeah but every time Viola has a project out you’re always throwing a dig at her. It’s interesting you mention Kidman who you don’t do the same with.
I’ve never said something negative towards that project prior to Gillian’s casting today. If I had something against Davis, I would have criticized it before…
And why would I criticize Kidman considering the only time I disliked her was for The Undoing (and I did criticize her here?) whose director is why I have reservations towards this particular show.February 22, 2021 at 12:00 pm #1204054848
The same way you can be excited about that project, I can have reservations. With Susanne Bier directing, and based on what I’ve recently seen her do with Kidman, I’m not confident in her making Gillian and Viola avoid their worst tendencies.February 22, 2021 at 11:16 am #1204054772
This is gonna be the trashiest show of whenever season it airs. Love Gillian Anderson but she was a bordeline parody in The Crown which makes me not confident at all for her performance here. Same thing for Viola Davis, that will probably do her typical overacting. Add to that combo Susanne Bier that directed Nicole Kidman to what’s probably one of her worst performance in The Undoing and also that writer (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177583/)…yikes.February 22, 2021 at 9:55 am #1204054493
Well SAG often tends to go for repeats in ensemble categories and that category was a weaker one where The Crown and <i>Game of Thrones </i>were ineligible.
SAG would have given 2 Ensemble wins to what you consider to have been a buzzless show that actors aren’t watching over programs like Ozark? All right.
Susan Kelechi Watson (with one of the most acclaimed supporting performances that year that was said to be undeniable) also missed for Fiona Shaw essentially coming in, throwing caustic jibes and sitting down on a chair in Killing Eve season 2.
That’s just a testimony of Fiona Shaw’s strength that this forum has always been underestimating. You are also purposely ignoring Michael Angarano’s nomination, that once again couldn’t have had happened if they weren’t watching the show. Same thing for Chris Sullivan. Are we also considering The Emmys and the Golden Globes didn’t watch Ozark s3 because Pelphrey was snubbed now?
The nebulous guest categories aside, This is Us missed for The Crown in Drama Actress and Drama S. Actress, The Handmaid’s Tale in Drama S. Actor (even though it was nominated in that category the previous year) and Big Little Lies in S. Actress (x2). It also received the same amount of acting nominations as The Handmaid’s Tale and THT received more nominations in above the line acting categories than it did. It received only one acting nomination above the line and it was for its most famous star.
I made a mistake regarding THT, but that doesn’t change the other facts, This Is Us had more acting nominations than Ensemble winner The Crown. Funny how you used Susan Kelechi-Watson snub as a sign they weren’t watching, when they ignored who The Crown stans have claimed to be undeniable, Jane Lapotaire and Charles Dance (both top 5 in gd odds), over This Is Us actors. No matter how you want to spin it, the facts are here. Or maybe you want to argue here aswell that they didn’t watch The Crown s3?
I don’t see how it is odd to say that voters aren’t simply tuning in to a buzzless show when actors who viewers of the show consider to be the standouts are constantly missing nominations.
TIU has been so buzzless for years that The Crown s4, that apparently everyone is talking about, can’t even reach TIU’s peak (which is btw s2, that you claim voters didn’t watch despite an Ensemble win)
I don’t even know why I’m debatting this as it’s barely relevant to this season, but TIU has been a hit among actors and they have always been the show’s biggest supporters. And even if the support has fallen down, as shown by the ensemble snubs, saying they weren’t watching since s2 or that Sterling K. Brown has been constantly name checked is simply moronic. I frankly expect better from a veteran user.February 22, 2021 at 8:11 am #1204054285
Ron Cephas Jones won because he was Ron Cephas Jones and it was a lazy repeat in a category with no frontrunner. I mean if actors are watching This is Us then why didn’t Susan Kelechi Watson pop up for season 3? Why did Mandy Moore get in for season 3 but not 4 or 2 when this site was proclaiming she was undeniable for the nomination (which having seen season 2 it was such a horrific snub)?
Unless Rege-Jean wins SAG or Matthew Rhys wins the Globe then O’Connor is a lock for the win. The Crown season 4 has dominated every ceremony it has been through in nominations so far so I don’t see how O’Connor loses to someone who was likely 6th last year.
Hmm how can you say actors didn’t watch s2 or s3 considering it’s when it won SAG ensemble? Maybe they stopped during s4 but they definitely watched those seasons. Another proof is the nomination of Michael Angarano that was the guest standout of s3 and that only 71 people actually predicted here. Mandy Moore nomination for s3 is a classic case of make up nom for the previous year and because she was one of the first bumps in her category. Chris Sullivan is also someone that wouldn’t be name checked if they weren’t watching. Susan Kelechi Watson missed in a category dominated by 4 Got actresses and that also contained one of the strongest supporting actresses in recent years wih Julia Garner. You also said Sterling K. Brown is name checked every year in a weak category, which is untrue and also forgetting the 3 nominations of Milo Ventimiglia aswell, which is also not an actor with a name that can be nominated blindly.
This Is Us was also snubbed in Ensemble last year, and yet ended up having more acting nominations than ensemble winner The Crown or Ensemble nominees THT, Stranger Things and Big Little Lies, actually winning one of its acting nominations (which isn’t really a repeat considering he didnt win the previous year…). It may have lost a big part of its viewership which causes its Ensemble snubs, but it does seem to still have support among the acting branch at the Emmys.
Again, not saying Brown is going to win, but you should stop attacking everyone who isn’t considering The Crown to be a lock in every single category in February, especially with really odds arguments like TIU not being watched by actors for years.February 22, 2021 at 4:16 am #1204054031
Sterling K Brown and Jennifer C Holmes are not going to win (especially the former over O’Connor) when actors simply aren’t watching This is Us anymore. It couldn’t get into SAG ensemble in a weak field.
I mean Ron Cephas-Jones won last year and it was also snubbed from ensemble then and we know Guest categories tend to operate differently… Sterling K. Brown was also nominated at the past Emmys over Bob Odenkirk despite BCS making it into ensemble this time. His individual strength has always been and still is superior than the one for the show itself, and even if TIU has lost steam, his individual passion still seems to be strong. Of course it’s not really a logical to consider him over O’Connor at this moment, but I don’t think he can be dismissed that easily.February 21, 2021 at 7:01 pm #1204053581
If those are the shows that are coming this season it would confirm the Succession rumor… also Insecure.February 21, 2021 at 6:28 am #1204052695
So Emily In Paris nominations were basically locked before it even aired lol