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May 25, 2023 at 8:43 am #1205440845
Here come Wanda with the “controversial” take.
Mariah wasn’t a particularly “risk taking” artist. And she did put out a lot of cheesy ballads early in her career. But she also popularized fusing R&B/pop with rap, popularized the remix, and many of her hit songs still hold up as bops. While the impact and influence of Butterfly as an album can’t be denied.ReplyMay 25, 2023 at 4:20 am #1205440599
I don’t mind Ice Spice, and she is likable. But I will admit that the constant industry pushing of her is a bit odd. At least when Nicki was getting a bunch of hype and collabing with damn near everyone before she put out her debut album, the talent was obvious and female rap was struggling commercially. Ice Spice has had one EP that’s done okay, one legit hit meme song that isn’t a collab, isn’t all that talented, isn’t much of a performer or versatile and hasn’t really proven to be heavy player as a singles artist on her own. I kinda don’t get it outside of being the “hot new thing”.ReplyMay 23, 2023 at 10:49 pm #1205439437
Sarah’s win wasn’t surprising. That type of artist the Grammys loved to reward in the Pop categories then (white, Adult Alternative, at least mildly successful). Can’t say she deserved R&B song.
If Rap/sung was a category then, “Breakdown” or “The Roof” would have been worthy winners. “Honey” probably would have competed in the Pop categories today. And of course, the album was snubbed for an R&B Album nod. I don’t think voters were yet fully ready to embrace Mariah in R&B.ReplyMay 23, 2023 at 12:05 am #1205438349
A remix really wasn’t needed. While Kendrick’s vibe doesn’t really match the song. However, with the Grammy weight of both Beyonce and Kendrick a nomination would be almost assured as long as it’s not an absolute flop. Doesn’t belong in the Rap categories though.ReplyMay 19, 2023 at 11:53 am #1205432916
I am mixed on Summer in general. And I haven’t been that enthusiastic about any of her bodies of work that much overall. However, she does have some good songs, sells well, has solid acclaim and get nods at most other award shows. Voters are clearly snubbing her for her “ratchet” image and her music being “ghetto” and not because she’s “boring”. That does make me uncomfortable.ReplyMay 18, 2023 at 10:31 pm #1205432446
the song summer walker teased from her upcoming ep seems much more stripped down and traditional than anything she’s done before. it’s reminding me a lot of erykah badu. maybe r&b voters will finally come around to her now that she’s ditching her “hood” persona which has probably been the problem with her in the past?
It still very much has “hood vibes” just a bit more stripped down, and she still has a very “ratchet” image. However, I could see voters finally embracing her. It took some time for voters to fully embrace MJB likely because her image was “too hood”. But continuous success and relevance tends to break though eventually.ReplyMay 14, 2023 at 2:34 am #1205428429
Jack Harlow’s album will be forgotten. It’s nothing special & has no hits. For an artist with so much charisma, it fails to translate through his music.
Completely agree that the album isn’t anything special. I don’t even think it’s necessarily better than his last album. Still, he’s a name and is coming off of multiple Rap nods last year. If the Rap categories are still reaching to fill in slots by the deadline, his chances for nods can’t be entirely dismissed, especially since the media is indeed perceiving the album as a “return to form”.ReplyMay 11, 2023 at 5:54 pm #1205427255
You’re delusional to think that Jack Harlow‘s gonna get another nomination for a Grammy. He reached number eight on Billboard.
Um, I already said that without a big single and the album not being big that he’ll probably struggle to get a nod. I give him a bit of a chance as of this moment primarily because the album is being solidly received and because the Rap categories may be reaching for a decent amount of filler noms this year. Y’all love to randomly throw around words like “delusional”. It’s tiresome.ReplyMay 10, 2023 at 12:52 am #1205425581
In a weak year and with some acclaim and at least solid sales, Doja could be a big contender in the Rap fields. Whether someone likes it or not.
I could see Nicki possibly getting a nod if she releases an album. She won’t be nominated for random singles.
Jack might be able to pull off another Rap Album nod. But without a big single propelling him, I don’t see it unless the field stays really empty.ReplyMarch 21, 2023 at 10:32 pm #1205359217
Tasia seems a more capable actor than Jennifer Hudson. Not that that is saying much. How she’s directed will have the biggest impact on her performance. While it’s highly unlikely this movie is a big player at the Oscars and she ends up being left out.February 20, 2023 at 8:37 am #1205310949
There’s a real bias against Austin Butler in online circles because he came from the Disney Channel. Same reason there is so much bias against Zendaya too. They don’t want these actors to grow and win Emmys or BAFTAS. They went against the plan so it makes people uncomfortable. Child/teen stars like Natalie Portman and Kirsten Dunst are supposed to be getting Awards in their adult years but not, gasp, Disney channel kids! It’s some bizarre form of elitism. Even if these child stars came from money, hence why I say a bizarre form of elitism.
I don’t know if you’re trying to use my couple of posts to build whatever narrative. But I never underestimated Butler. Nor do I harbor bias towards him because he came from the Disney channel. While even when Fraser seemed to be gaining front-runner status I thought Butler could regain momentum. My only point has been both Austin and Fraser fit typical Oscar-bait narratives with their films and roles. Farrell does not and thus was always gonna have a difficult time winning awards.February 20, 2023 at 1:36 am #1205310746
There’s nothing ”typical” or ”safe” about Baz Luhrmann’s ”Elvis,” or else someone would’ve done a big-screen Presley biopic during the 45 years since his death in 1977. Luhrmann chose not to retell Elvis’ story in strict chronological order; it ping-pongs back and forth through his life to reveal his influences. What’s more, Luhrmann framed it through Colonel Tom Parker’s point-of-view, depicting him as the yin to Presley’s yang. This is a perspective that we’ve never seen and is more reminiscent of Salieri and Mozart’s complicated relationship in Milos Forman’s ”Amadeus.” Above all, ”Elvis” takes its biggest risk on an unknown film actor in his first starring role: Austin Butler, who prior to shooting had never sung or danced. He not only had to re-create how Presley sang and moved, he had to evoke his sex appeal and showmanship. If Butler had failed, ”Elvis” would’ve been career suicide and the quickest way to win a Razzie, instead of the Academy Award he’s being nominated for.
No one did a big budget Elvis biopic mainly because it was just too damn obvious. And while the movie has some of the typical flairs of Baz’s films, it’s mostly a typical musical-biopic and way more mainstream and awards friendly then what I expected. Also, Butler had nothing to lose doing the movie. Destroy his career? He didn’t really have a career prior. He was seen as a Disney channel pretty boy who aged out. So, I don’t know what your whole post is about. If you’re rooting for Austin that’s fine. I don’t have that big of an issue with Austin winning. And I’d rather him than Fraser. But let’s not pretend it doesn’t fall in line with usual biopic winning Oscar roles.February 19, 2023 at 11:52 pm #1205310719
You are selling Colin Farrell too short. I think this is his Tinker Taylor Solider Spy nomination. I think he potentially could come back in a few years and win like Gary Oldman did.
Farrell has shown that when he’s not attempting an American accent he is a more than adequate actor. And he’s gained more acclaim and respect post his “Hollywood bad boy heartthrob” years. I would prefer he win this year, but if he does win eventually it’ll likely to be for something less worthy. That’s how it goes. So, this year it’s either the typical and safe biopic performance or the gained weight/played a sad and pathetic queer in an overwrought movie performance.February 13, 2023 at 1:57 pm #1205302330
Ya’ll on this thread are really insufferable. We can recognize that Viola and Danielle were snubbed in favor of white women while also recognizing that Asian representation is at an all-time high. It’s great for a lot of people but unfortunately this year will also serve as a reminder that there are still systems in place that will benefit white people in favor of anyone else. And seriously half the comments are just begging for replies and attention.
People have a difficult time with multi pronged and nuanced situations and conversations. You can be happy for Asian representation and for Yeoh while still acknowledging that there remains certain prejudices and privileges. Grouping in everyone you possibly can into one minority struggle is problematic and erases nuance and privilege. There’s no doubt that two BLACK women were pushed out because of their films lacking white perspective and enough white appeal. There’s also no doubt that it’s easier to get people to galvanize behind a little seen, little buzz about movie and performance if it’s centered around white people. And it’s more effective because most of the academy is still white. All these things can be a reality because they are. That also doesn’t make Andrea a villain, the people who constructed the “grass roots” campaign villains or every white person who voted for her a villain. It’s all reflective of sociology and privilege and bias. Once again, nuance.February 7, 2023 at 12:25 pm #1205296216
It’s always the excuses when we know at the end of the day, almost every AOTY winner has a decent amount of appeal for middle aged and older white folk. That’s always gonna be the biggest factor when it comes to AOTY. And it can’t be dismissed. There are of course always other factors. But that has always been and will always be a major component, and that includes the handful of years black people have won.ReplyNot now