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May 22, 2022 at 6:08 pm #1204960533
“Rolling In The Deep” would not have had the overwhelmingly wide-ranging genre and demo appeal that it did if Adele were black. Taylor wouldn’t be able to switch from extremes of country, to pop, to pseudo folk indie and still sell tons of records and win plenty of awards if she weren’t white. Also, it’s not just about being white, it’s a certain type of white, a certain type of image, a certain type of music.
As I said, the system and success and awards is way more nuanced than just someone being black or white. Race is however a part of the game.
ReplyMay 22, 2022 at 4:45 pm #1204960491It’s not just about voters. Being white and bland looking has helped their general appeal and sales in general. That in turn has also assisted them with awards. We all know it’s not as simple as race. There are many elements to both big sales and winning big awards. And it is insulting to lean on race to sum up their achievements. But it’s definitely a piece of the puzzle. Let’s not pretend it isn’t.
ReplyMay 21, 2022 at 7:51 am #1204959021Harry was always gonna have great numbers out of the gate. The hype and industry push is too high. The question for the album, and what might help determine how big of a Grammy contender it’ll be, is stability.
ReplyMay 19, 2022 at 2:45 pm #1204957130Honey, calling Adele’s 30 pretentious is like the dumbest shit I’ve ever read on here.
I don’t really get that either. It’s not like she tried to become Fiona Apple or Joanna Newsom with 30. It’s her least overtly commercial album. But it’s an Adele album with a lil more jazz and more obvious Amy Winehouse touches. I don’t think it’s great, but I do think it’s possibly her best overall work. And “pretentious” is not a word I’d refer to when it comes to the album.
ReplyMay 18, 2022 at 8:10 am #1204955530“Progressive” would be Grammys legit embracing urban music by black artists. They’re still a ways away from doing that. A random black person winning AOTY every decade + for “old white people friendly” music isn’t reflective of much change.
Kendrick’s album is better than Adele’s IMO, but not by much. And we all know winners aren’t driven by what’s the supposed best.
ReplyMay 15, 2022 at 12:25 pm #1204952848If Bjork releases a new album, can we all do a prayer circle that she is nominated and finally wins a Grammy?
Imma need it to be better than Utopia before I do that.
ReplyMay 15, 2022 at 11:01 am #1204952788I don’t feel either way about “Auntie Diaries”. It’s not a bad song, but it also isn’t one of my few highlights either. I’m not offended. But Kendrick is definitely playing dumb and basic on the song. He knows better. And that does ultimately make the song feel more like a self-congratulatory and exploitative exercise meant to cause conversation about use of language than anything else.
ReplyMay 14, 2022 at 3:53 pm #1204952087I’m not sure Kendrick will ever to be able to get close to ‘Good Kid’ and TPAB. And that’s fine. I will say that after a couple days of listens, this is probably my least favorite Kendrick studio album. There aren’t as many standout songs from a production perspective. While the storytelling often feels more murky and sometimes preachy than in previous albums. Still, it is overall pretty good and it may end up being more than that for me over time. “Purple Hearts”, “Count Me Out”, “N95” and “Mirror” are what’s standing out to me right now.
ReplyMay 11, 2022 at 3:40 pm #1204949372The album is boring but you know what it also boring? Pitchfork giving scores in a totally random way just to be ‘not like the other girls’. I have EASILY heard worst music than this in the last couple of years, and yet none of it got a 2.9. Their criticism is not objective nor fair nor constructive. They try to get clicks with corny headlines and even cornier petty stabs in the articles (often towards the artist persona rather than the music), and honestly a couple of articles read as a joke. I know it is not that deep and it’s just a publication but it kinda bothers me since they used to be a (somewhat?) respected voice among music reviewers.
Pitchfork has always been known for being ruthless and snobby. But they used to be far worse in that department. It was rare for them to give any album above a 7.5. And they would trash mainstream artists on a regular. They have definitely eased up over the last few years. I don’t think the album is 2.9 worthy, but it’s also one of the most drab listens for myself in the last few years.
Lizzo is a solid contender in Pop Performance. But even if the song ends up being pretty stable, I just don’t see any reason why they’d give her the win. We also need to see how successful the album will be.
ReplyMay 10, 2022 at 10:32 pm #1204948718You’re the one who admitted to have personal biases here. Like I said I never had him in my AOTY predictions but I never disregarded it. I’m just being objective here. Do you.
No one cares. And no one was talking about AOTY. Move the hell on.
ReplyMay 10, 2022 at 11:39 am #1204948349My bias is that I’m clearly rooting against the dude, find him to transparently calculated and leech-like, find him cringe-y, don’t like his music, think he’s benefitted greatly from “okay looking white boy in black spaces” privilege. However, I wouldn’t let that effect how I view his Grammy chances. He’s become a bigger and bigger name and has a hit song. So, he’s got a chance to pull one or two nods. Once again, though, the big point of debate for now and maybe the rest of the year with him is whether he’ll make Rap Album.
ReplyMay 10, 2022 at 11:26 am #1204948337Thats YOUR problem.
No, that’s your problem. You’re the one clearly getting mad about all the shade he’s getting. This the internet boo. And this is a fairly shady forum. If people wanna express their biases and who they’re rooting against they can. You’re the one getting in your feelings about it.
ReplyMay 10, 2022 at 11:22 am #1204948325But no one is saying he doesn’t have a chance to get one or two nods. No one is arguing that he’ll get gf nods. It’s Rap Album that people are mostly discussing. So, I fail to see why you’re arguing against something no one here is arguing for. Also, yes, I’m biased and I’m rooting against him and I’m expressing. I’m once again looking for your point.
ReplyMay 10, 2022 at 9:59 am #1204948231Comparing Jack Harlow to two well-established, well respected, Grammy-winning artists who have shown that they consistently get rap support? That seems like a stretch. Never mind how there’s a pretty good chance the album won’t be all that stable. Can’t entirely dismiss his chances though.
Also, the hate and negativity isn’t “weird”. It’s totally understandable. Most of the hype he got he got by pandering to black women and queers in the most shallow, off-putting ways. He has an annoying faux hood dialect. The rap skills aren’t there. The performance skills aren’t there. The music isn’t there. And he sounds like any random SoundCloud party rapper. His fans overhyped the hell out of him. while he’s not even all that cute. Also, no one wants another Macklemore on our hands. But at least Macklemore was doing something a bit different.
ReplyMay 9, 2022 at 9:40 am #1204947217Jack’s album ain’t bad-bad, but the way some of these black women and queers like gas-ing up these basic looking white boys with equally basic music and cringe-y and pandering personas… I’ll just say that I don’t mind the backlash. While the album (not just the singles) will likely need stability in order to have a chance of being a major player in Rap Album.
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