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May 2, 2022 at 6:30 am #1204939591
Dopesick >>> The Queen’s Gambit. This talk of Dopesick being a poor frontrunner is very overblown, particularly when the weakest show in the limited series category won just last year.
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April 28, 2022 at 11:36 am #1204935907A positive or cheery woman to be honest. That kind of disposition is not treated as a turn off when it comes to men, consciously or subconsciously.
Completely agree. There’s a gendered element at play as well.
Deeply is a stretch, but I mean I consider unlikeable just to mean “hard to warm to”. I’m kind of like this in real life. I’m polite, but I’ve never been bubbly and I know I come off as kind of cold. I have had chronic pain since I was maybe thirteen (so 20+ years) and I think that’s part of it. I related to why Mare would be like that.
Apart from the fact she makes some very questionable choices to say the least, which is another thing altogether.
I understand that ‘likeable’ can be defined in a number of ways, and I’m sorry to hear of your chronic pain. The character was absolutely intended to be relatable though. The post I was responding to made it seem as though Winslet had defied the odds in making this character likeable even though hating her would be justified, which I don’t think was Ingelsby’s intent. I feel that the decisions Mare makes pale in comparison to the choices many male protagonists in TV over the past 10 years repeatedly make, and they’re rarely referred to as deeply unlikeable.
This is one of the most absurd things I’ve read. The drug planting on Carrie’s car for starters. Treatment/use of Zabel on dates to get into the case and hurting his feelings. Flouting rules in every single episode. Her treatment of her ex husband and her role in creating a rift in his ex husband’s marriage so much so as driving his fiance away to her mother’s. Her unwillingness to congratulate her husband’s fiance on her face and making jibes. Then the fact that she’s so cold and unhelpful to Zabel at first. This is all I can think of off the back of my head. Sure when I’ll re-watch I’ll remember a lot of things.
“She pretty much played the character as it was scripted”??. The way you’ll just state anything to put down her performance.
I think you misunderstood my comment. None of this contradicts what I said. Mare is still ultimately written as empathetic and relatable in spite of several character flaws brought on by personal trauma. I think Winslet’s performance warrants praise because it was a committed and lived-in performance, but we don’t need to praise her for something that is literally in the script. All of your examples simply add to the complexity of the character (situated in the context of her child’s death), and her willingness to operate in grey areas. The audience is always able to understand her actions at any given point. This doesn’t equate to endorsement of her actions.
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April 28, 2022 at 9:35 am #1204935759I’m still trying to understand what makes Mare such a ‘deeply unlikeable’ character? The fact that she’s not positive or cheery most of the time? Her child took his own life, and she then rightfully expresses deep concern for her grandchild potentially returning to the care of his unstable mother. Not to mention the constant harassment she receives from men across the town throughout the series. Mare is actually written as a character deserving of the viewer’s empathy. It feels like another way of inflating Winslet’s work to me. She didn’t make an unlikeable character likeable. She pretty much played the character as it was scripted.
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April 26, 2022 at 4:20 pm #1204933650Another off-topic: Danielle Deadwyler is leading an upcoming HBO series!
Danielle Deadwyler To Star In J.J. Abrams’ HBO Series ‘Demimonde’ https://t.co/AC3p73i5BZ
— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) April 26, 2022
Honestly I still think about her profound performance in Station Eleven daily, so it’s great to see that the industry has taken notice – though I doubt it’s enough for her to deservedly get in this year.
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April 21, 2022 at 3:20 pm #1204926310Whew this will be unpopular:
Where was all of this Severance buzz for the first season of Homecoming? I think that was a better season of television, and explored pretty similar themes with a more arresting visual style, held together by what I believe was a better lead performance. Taking awards (which obviously favour hour-long shows in the drama categories) out of the equation, I actually think the half-hour format would’ve helped Severance, which feels drawn out and laboured at times.
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April 19, 2022 at 5:02 am #1204923368+10 King, Coel, Baranski
-10 Foy/Williams/MarguliesClaire Foy, The Crown (820)
Michelle Williams, Fosse/Verdon (640)
Regina King, Watchmen (470)
Michaela Coel, I May Destroy You (420)
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife (190)
Christine Baranski, The Good Fight (30)
Eliminated
53. Bryan Cranston, All The Way
52. Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
51. Margo Martindale, Jusitfied
50. Anya Taylor-Joy, The Queen’s Gambit
49. Carrie Coon, Fargo
48. Patricia Arquette, Escape at Dannemora
47. Taraji P. Henson, Empire
46. Elizabeth Olsen, WandaVision
45. Darren Criss, The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story
44. Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
43. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
42. Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan
41. Thuso Mbedu, The Underground Railroad
40. Mark Ruffalo, I Know This Much is True
39. Courtney B. Vance, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
38. Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan
37. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
36. Rami Malek, Mr. Robot
35. Kaitlyn Dever, Unbelievable
34. Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Murder House
33. Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
32. Billy Porter, Pose
31. Michaela Jaé Rodriguez, Pose
30. Amy Adams, Sharp Objects
29. Merritt Wever, Unbelievable
28. Monica Potter, Parenthood
27. Matthew McConaughey, True Detective
26. Omar Sy, Lupin 25. Timothy Olyphant, Justified
24. Vera Farmiga, Bates Motel
23. Rhea Seehorn, Better Call Saul
22. Ethan Hawke, The Good Lord Bird
21. Jeremy Strong, Succession
20. Kate Winslet, Mare of Easttown
19. Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
18. Jon Hamm, Mad Men
17. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
16. Claire Danes, Homeland
15. Bob Odenkirk,Better Call Saul
14. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
13. Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
12. Sarah Paulson, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
11. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
10. Keri Russell, The Americans
9. Matthew Rhys, The Americans
8. Carrie Coon, The Leftovers
7. Cate Blanchett, Mrs. AmericaReplyFYC: Station Eleven in all categories
April 13, 2022 at 9:51 am #1204915622Literally no one can do internalised anger and frustration better than Melanie Lynskey.
Literally no one? Really?
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April 12, 2022 at 4:34 pm #1204914794Big Little Lies and Mr. Robot are two of the more recent and more egregious examples.
I recently rewatched Mr Robot and it honestly made me reassess the entire show. I was never the biggest fan in the first place (though I appreciated elements of it), but on second viewing it was a hot mess 💀 the story is so convoluted, and so many plotlines are either unnecessary or poorly developed. For something so self-important, it should’ve also displayed a greater and more complex understanding of the ideologies and systems it tries to explore.
On Big Little Lies, I think the critical reception was fair (a metacritic score in the mid 70s is fine), and I don’t think it has annoying fans. The industry went overboard in giving it so many awards though.
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April 12, 2022 at 10:17 am #1204914391Gurl…
Agreed about Cypress tho.
I’ll overlook the Ricci erasure.I’m actually a fan of Juliette’s, but this performance was just not it. In fairness to her, I found the characterisation she had to work with to be very cliché and broad. Ricci was decent but again, there weren’t many layers to her character or performance in my opinion. As you can tell, I’m not the biggest fan of the show. Cypress was good though.
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April 12, 2022 at 6:40 am #1204914187
Love your profile pic! Xx
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April 12, 2022 at 5:58 am #1204914155Melanie Lynskey needs to be renamed Felony Lynskey for the way she robbed Rodriguez, Herbers and Baranski at CC, and will likely rob more deserving performances of an Emmy nomination later this year. I do not understand what people saw in that performance at all. On top of that, Juliette Lewis was … bad. Purnell, Thatcher and Cypress gave my favourite performances of the Yellowjackets cast.
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April 11, 2022 at 2:16 am #1204912194This is obviously a convenient time to say this given the online pile on it’s receiving for its series finale, but Killing Eve was never actually that good in the first place. While the tone that the first season struck felt quite refreshing and original – though nowhere near as subversive as most critics suggested – I thought that its back half was a lot weaker than the opening few episodes. This is a season of television which topped the 2018 year-end list, which was very unwarranted given the other shows airing that year. While Waller Bridge’s exit likely contributed to a downturn in the quality of writing in following seasons (I find Fennell to be an inferior writer for example), the premise itself was unsustainable. The characters were exhausting to follow for more than a few episodes, the twists became more and more telegraphed, and the story more and more convoluted. It should’ve been a miniseries.
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April 8, 2022 at 12:49 pm #1204909094+10 Coel, Coon, Rhys
-10 Blanchett, Baranski, MarguliesClaire Foy, The Crown (810)
Michelle Williams, Fosse/Verdon (629)
Regina King, Watchmen (380)
Michaela Coel, I May Destroy You (181)
Cate Blanchett, Mrs. America (167)
Carrie Coon, The Leftovers (151)
Christine Baranski, The Good Fight (131)
Matthew Rhys, The Americans (95)
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife (81)
Eliminated
53. Bryan Cranston, All The Way
52. Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
51. Margo Martindale, Jusitfied
50. Anya Taylor-Joy, The Queen’s Gambit
49. Carrie Coon, Fargo
48. Patricia Arquette, Escape at Dannemora
47. Taraji P. Henson, Empire
46. Elizabeth Olsen, WandaVision
45. Darren Criss, The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story
44. Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
43. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
42. Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan
41. Thuso Mbedu, The Underground Railroad
40. Mark Ruffalo, I Know This Much is True
39. Courtney B. Vance, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
38. Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan
37. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
36. Rami Malek, Mr. Robot
35. Kaitlyn Dever, Unbelievable
34. Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Murder House
33. Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
32. Billy Porter, Pose
31. Michaela Jaé Rodriguez, Pose
30. Amy Adams, Sharp Objects
29. Merritt Wever, Unbelievable
28. Monica Potter, Parenthood
27. Matthew McConaughey, True Detective
26. Omar Sy, Lupin
25. Timothy Olyphant, Justified
24. Vera Farmiga, Bates Motel
23. Rhea Seehorn, Better Call Saul
22. Ethan Hawke, The Good Lord Bird
21. Jeremy Strong, Succession
20. Kate Winslet, Mare of Easttown
19. Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
18. Jon Hamm, Mad Men
17. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
16. Claire Danes, Homeland
15. Bob Odenkirk,Better Call Saul
14. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
13. Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
12. Sarah Paulson, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
11. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
10. Keri Russell, The AmericansReplyFYC: Station Eleven in all categories
April 7, 2022 at 4:33 pm #1204908085+10 Rhys, Coel, Coon
-10 Williams, Blanchett, BaranskiClaire Foy, The Crown (820)
Michelle Williams, Fosse/Verdon (609)
Regina King, Watchmen (370)
Michaela Coel, I May Destroy You (191)
Cate Blanchett, Mrs. America (177)
Carrie Coon, The Leftovers (151)
Christine Baranski, The Good Fight (141)
Matthew Rhys, The Americans (95)
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife (81)
Eliminated
53. Bryan Cranston, All The Way
52. Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
51. Margo Martindale, Jusitfied
50. Anya Taylor-Joy, The Queen’s Gambit
49. Carrie Coon, Fargo
48. Patricia Arquette, Escape at Dannemora
47. Taraji P. Henson, Empire
46. Elizabeth Olsen, WandaVision
45. Darren Criss, The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story
44. Bryan Cranston, Breaking Bad
43. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
42. Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan
41. Thuso Mbedu, The Underground Railroad
40. Mark Ruffalo, I Know This Much is True
39. Courtney B. Vance, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
38. Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan
37. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
36. Rami Malek, Mr. Robot
35. Kaitlyn Dever, Unbelievable
34. Jessica Lange, American Horror Story: Murder House
33. Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
32. Billy Porter, Pose
31. Michaela Jaé Rodriguez, Pose
30. Amy Adams, Sharp Objects
29. Merritt Wever, Unbelievable
28. Monica Potter, Parenthood
27. Matthew McConaughey, True Detective
26. Omar Sy, Lupin
25. Timothy Olyphant, Justified
24. Vera Farmiga, Bates Motel
23. Rhea Seehorn, Better Call Saul
22. Ethan Hawke, The Good Lord Bird
21. Jeremy Strong, Succession
20. Kate Winslet, Mare of Easttown
19. Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
18. Jon Hamm, Mad Men
17. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
16. Claire Danes, Homeland
15. Bob Odenkirk,Better Call Saul
14. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
13. Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
12. Sarah Paulson, The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story
11. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
10. Keri Russell, The AmericansReplyFYC: Station Eleven in all categories
April 7, 2022 at 3:57 pm #1204908060This is the only place that cares about IMDb or thinks it’s relevant when talking about how a show or performance will do at the Emmy’s. IMDb caters to a very specific demographic.
I wish I could agree with this (I’ve made this exact argument in the past), but in recent years IMDb has unfortunately been a pretty good indicator.
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