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May 20, 2022 at 7:33 am #1204957858
The way you guys cannot counter a single point. Somebody’s personal best doesn’t mean the best in general or the best of the year or the best in a lineup. I gave you the actual factual proof of where she stands in the acclaim department.
Being objective isn’t discrediting her. She IS acclaimed but there are tiers here. This may or may not affect her Grammy chances, that remains to be seen. It’s not a good idea to be so far up somebody’s ass that any amount of objectivity feels like a personal attack.
Lol. Calling the album “monotonous” or “pretentious” when it is not is not being “objective.”
Arguing the fact that 30 gave Adele her best reviews while admitting to not knowing about the acclaim of Adele’s other albums is not being “objective.” (30 will end up being one of the most acclaimed albums nominated if it indeed gets the nomination… that’s factual.)
Stating your personal disdain for the album is not being “objective.”
Also, no one cares about your personal opinion about the album. No one is arguing that. You’re not important at all.
And I’m pretty sure every one of your points have been argued.May 19, 2022 at 9:15 pm #1204957387
Adele’s album has an 88 on Metacritic with 23 reviews and ended up #16 on the YE lists. This is not the “massive acclaim magnum opus” narrative that is being pushed by Adele stans. This is the general acclaim expected from MPG’s. Keep in mind, Adele was highly anticipated and EOM was a hit. I have no idea what her past acclaim is like but even if this is her best, it’s nowhere near some of the most acclaimed effort. If she had released even earlier, she’d be even lower because recency contributed to the acclaim.
For context, Billie’s HTE is 86 on Metacritic with 27 reviews and ended up #18 on the YE lists and people on this forum widely considered it underwhelming. So, let’s not be logically inconsistent here.
Oh shut up. Adele’s year-end rankings had more to do with it being a late release than anything else. The album still gave Adele her best reviews, and that’s just factual. Most, if not, all of her reviews have pointed out that it’s her best, most consistent and most diverse album to date.
This attempt at the Swifties to discredit everything about the 30 era is lame and desperate.May 19, 2022 at 4:29 pm #1204957193
Has an actress every won for a movie released early on in the year? It seems that most winners have won for movies released from Oct-Jan.
I would like for the studio to re-release Everywhere All at Once at the end of the year.May 18, 2022 at 10:18 pm #1204956345
The Grammy should have gone to To Pimp a Butterfly, period. DAMN. should have won, too. We wouldn’t even be having this discussion.
I’m not sure if there would be enough narrative for Kendrick to win this time around since critics are a bit “harsher” this time around.May 18, 2022 at 8:40 pm #1204956307
People calling 30 “monotonous” and “pretentious” haven’t listened to that album more than once.
Adele’s issue here is that people are over her winning, whether the music is good or not and Taylor fans are scared of her tying Taylor’s record. It really boils down to nothing else.May 18, 2022 at 7:09 pm #1204956229
Yeah, no one has undeservedly gotten a Grammy before. You’re right. If no one can beat Adele then that means no one is better than Adele. My bad.
How does any of this correlate with my post… at all? I didn’t say any of this. Just say that you are tired of Adele winning, and it has nothing to do with what you think of her music because that’s really what this boils down to.
Interesting that people love to throw around acclaim when it’s convenient, yet Adele possibly winning for her best reviewed album would be the end of the Grammys as we know it. Get real.May 18, 2022 at 5:50 pm #1204956087
Bad Bunny definitely has a chance at being nominated. lolMay 18, 2022 at 5:36 pm #1204956066
But what I will say about Kendrick’s case is that there are voters that probably won’t be so quick to award him after rewarding Jon Batiste this past year. But a Rap sweep is imminent. The fact that Kendrick could be at nearly 20 Grammys next year is crazy in itself.May 18, 2022 at 5:33 pm #1204956058
This isn’t her best album, imo.
And it wouldn’t matter who released this year or what they released, they would still lose to her, on a year where her album is not doing well at all. That’s the frustrating part. “Competition is bleak” is not the take.
That’s not true. We’ve seen Grammy favorites fall from grace. If no one can take her down in a “flop” era, then that says more about the competition than Adele herself. I’m not convinced that Adele will sweep again, but there has to be passion for someone else.May 18, 2022 at 4:49 pm #1204956013
It’s a metaphor. Every songwriter uses metaphors in songs, whether you think it’s clever or not. If that’s your argument, then everything about Kendrick’s album is “pretentious.” Y’all really nitpick silly things about these artists just because you don’t like them or their music. There are bigger criticisms than trivial BS like a metaphor in an adult contemporary song.May 18, 2022 at 4:44 pm #1204956001
Like what the hell does this even mean? Complete faux-deep nonsense.
So, a line in a love song makes the entire album “pretentious”? And I’m pretty sure you can’t pinpoint a legitimate thing that’s “pretentious” about that album. Call it a “bore” all you like, but “pretentious” doesn’t fit that album… at all.May 18, 2022 at 4:35 pm #1204955993
Sorry but 30 is pretentious bore of an album. Only sweep this century I’d consider worse than a hypothetical 30 sweep is The Chicks, since Not Ready To Make Nice is a terrible song.
My delusions of Kendrick winning ended when I saw how frontloaded he was. He always needed a mega smash album with crossover appeal but he clearly doesn’t have it with this album. He’ll still easily have the best album in the eventual nominee list.
Still retain that the biggest threat to Adele is going to be someone who’s currently 100/1. Silk Sonic have zero advantage over her and I think everyone has finally accepted that Harry is not a threat to her anywhere.
What the hell is “pretentious” about 30? Y’all really like to overuse words that you don’t even know the meaning of. Like… lolMay 18, 2022 at 4:00 pm #1204955966
Adele released her best album, whether it did as well as 21 or 25 or not. It’s not her fault the competition is bleak. She could still very well lose some Grammys, but if she sweeps again, oh well. Anyone who actually listened to the album knows that it’s deserving of any recognition.May 16, 2022 at 3:45 pm #1204954067
Kudos to Pitchfork for finally taking Kendrick’s d!ck out of their mouth and giving an honest review.
Meh. So, just because they gave this album a 7.6 that means this is an “honest” review as opposed to the other times they gave his albums strong reviews? Every one of those albums deserved its strong rating. Y’all are so weird when it comes to critically acclaimed artists, especially the black ones.
Anyway, I’m sure next week y’all will be creating this narrative that Harry Styles is more than he is in this race next week.May 15, 2022 at 6:24 pm #1204953148
I’m gay, and I consider myself a fan / supporter of Kendrick. I genuinely would like to know if you think this song has the potential to change the minds of people who are genuinely homophobic and transphobic in 2022. Most likely, the ones who are praising him for it identify as queer, or are already supportive allies of the queer community. We live in an era where “going woke” is a cancellable offense to the “conservative” population. I’m sure there will be fans out there who hear the song and think to themselves ‘damn, Kendrick’s right. Being homophobic / transphobic is wrong” but I wouldn’t doubt that there are rap fans who would rather claim Kendrick is “going woke” to please rather than looking inward at their own biases and prejudices.
To Pimp a Butterfly didn’t stop police brutality, so I don’t think anyone thinks this song will stop homophobia or transphobia. Kendrick has always written songs from a i introspective angle. I don’t think it’s his goal to change but to point out hypocrisy, even if it’s not executed well. “The Blacker The Berry” caused a similar debate about respectability politics. Ironically, “Auntie Diaries” covers that again.Not now