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July 26, 2020 at 7:41 am #1203603534
This Is Us might have only ended up with acting nominations in its first year. but it still seemed to have more groundswell support to justify a Series nomination than The Morning Show did with WGA New Series, ACE, AFI and 4 TCA nominations coming into the Emmys.
It has gotten PGA once in four years, on its third try. It has never gotten WGA Drama Series. The day that Apple TV+ launched, WGA voting was already open. This is Us debuted to a single SAG nomination; The Morning Show got three, including a win.
Have they not both started at November 1? Watchmen aired the same amount of episodes as TMS within the voting period yet got nominated twice. Its air date could not have been much of a problem for the other guilds when even the infamously lazy SAG caught up with it anyway.
July 25, 2020 at 9:06 pm #1203603217Wendie Malick, Hot in Cleveland
Hear hear! Highly addictive and well-acted guilty pleasure.
All seasons except the last one are on YouTube for anyone interested.
ReplyJuly 17, 2020 at 7:44 am #1203589121Irregardless of their acting merits; the idea that SAG voters were familiar with the real life personalities of the likes of Sarah Snook, Alan Ruck, Kieran Culkin enough to the point they collectively decide that it is an ‘unimpressive ensemble’ is quite bonkers. If only the same people that nominated Krasinski for Jack Ryan over Matthew Rhys and Billy Porter put that much thought into what they vote.
July 7, 2020 at 4:31 am #1203571652Anyone noticed Susan Kelechi Watson is finally correctly listed under her surname W instead of her middle name K after 3 years? Heh, I wonder if she specifically requested for that.
ReplyJune 17, 2020 at 9:53 pm #1203539832The rationale behind it is quite fair on paper-the number of nominees proportioned to the amount of submissions. I kind of like that it indirectly recognizes the essential “flaw” of all award shows in having the same amount of spots for leading and supporting categories when the latter will always have more contenders.
Yet when applied to the award bodies that already make their selections among a small pool of projects like the Emmys, it will likely just result in doubling down on the supporting players of the big shows even more, leaving the leads of smaller contenders in the dust. Less chance for Claire Danes or Viola Davis to return for their shows’ only big nomination, but greater chance for a 4 Maisel supporting actor to make it in? Not sure how I feel about that or how that will ensure the Academy recognize the variety of TV but I should reserve judgement before I see the results.
ReplyJune 16, 2020 at 3:07 am #1203535959It’s a shame if she doesn’t because if HBO had aired Big Little Lies now it would be getting nominations in : Series Actress Actress Supporting Actor Supporting Actress Supporting Actress Supporting Actress Supporting Actress Writing Directing And Kidman would be very competitive for the win.
Huh?
I disagree with the overall sentiment that the early air date being the dealbreaker for BLL when we have Succession with a similar air date from the same network leading the chart. It also struggled at the guilds when it was supposedly fresher in voters’ mind. Very recently GoT S7 and Stranger Things S1 were able to sustain their momentum from a year ago and BLL certainly had the potential to follow their footsteps with the enormous buzz it had by casting Streep, its earlier success and its big ratings etc.
On a more personal note, I thought that the summer was the perfect time to air for a show like Big Little Lies and really suited the tone and vibe of the show.
June 1, 2020 at 8:20 pm #1203512435Aren’t we overemphasizing the impact of alphabet ranking a little bit? Mostly in categories that will not have overwhelming amount of submissions to begin with, like Lead categories. I’d like to believe voters could skim through 10 pages at the very least.
Supporting categories on the other hand, especially for Drama, certainly require this kind of deep analysis…
May 27, 2020 at 9:23 am #1203503465Jonathan Pryce-Game of Thrones S5 (was in 5/10 episodes)
Love his work on the show, he would have made a great nominee.
ReplyMay 12, 2020 at 8:35 pm #1203478942<p style=”text-align: left;”>Worst one would be that there is NO Ensemble category for Limited/TV Movie. In this age of prestige TV where Limited/Miniseries is becoming a norm! I would expect the following shows to get SAG nods or even win:</p>
- American Crime Story (OJ Simpson & Versace)
- American Horror Story (a lot of the Ryan Murphy shows would get nods but yeah…)
- Watchmen
- Big Little Lies (if they stayed as a miniseries, they will definitely win)
- Jesus Christ Superstar Live in Concert
- Chernobyl
- Downton Abbey (when it was first submitted as a limited series)
AHS was actually eligible for the Ensemble award in its first five seasons when it competed as a drama.
ReplyMay 7, 2020 at 12:11 pm #1203469640There must be those who use the Witherspoon option as merely the anti-Aniston/pro-votesplitting vote. I admit to have done similar things on polls in the past
Maybe there should be a “Neither” option?
ReplyMay 4, 2020 at 6:29 pm #1203463485I’m not sure vote-splitting is the main reason she’s not gonna get in for either show when the voting system already minimizes the effect of that as much as possible. Being the secondary lead with a significantly weaker storyline than the other lead on two shows that have questionable overall support themselves seem to be a bigger blow to her chances. Even the supporting players on her shows have arguably overshadowed her in terms of buzz and the lead category is competitive as it is. I don’t think I would have predicted her over Streep/Dern if she went supporting for BLL for example.
ReplyJuly 24, 2019 at 2:24 am #1202993402Wow, so we can finally un-like the posts we’ve mistakenly liked! Thanks Goldderby, that was a long time coming.
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