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August 18, 2021 at 12:03 am #1204401912
Just came back to say that I have switched away from Mckenna Grace. The premiere of The Handmaid’s Tale felt recent a month ago, but feels like a very long time ago now and I am not feeling like the performance has staying power. I do remember Alexis Bledel doing something toward the end of the season and they should like her enough in general.July 31, 2021 at 1:03 am #1204373029
Boo, Bo Burnham deserves to be on the main stage.ReplyJuly 30, 2021 at 11:55 am #1204372312
I would predict Sophie Okonedo if visibility were not an issue, but I just moved her down to fourth, so take that as my answer to the should-the-Emmy-change-their-voting-process thread. (See also how Luca and I prefer different guest actresses from The Handmaid’s Tale, yet we are both predicting a third one.) Luca points to Bette Midler; I liken her to Cameron Britton as someone who was singled out from their show for their performance, with a strong campaign to boot. (Her people emailed me for months; Kevin ended up interviewing her.) It is baity material with no vote-splitting and I think that her position in the industry over the years would help her. She is someone who has gotten nominated for an Oscar here or won a Tony there or is even up for another BAFTA right now, but she is not at all a household name.July 30, 2021 at 2:24 am #1204371518
I definitely preferred Bledel to Grace and it does not actually seem to be an unpopular opinion, given Bledel’s nomination without Grace at the Gold Derby Awards and with us having proved that we were voting on the current season by singling out Madeline Brewer. But the category is weird enough that The Handmaid’s Tale can win even with a significant vote-split. I called the Ron Cephas Jones upset largely on the basis that he had won without material before, so I did not see his lack of material last year as a detriment. Bledel’s win on the other hand was tied to universally-acclaimed material that she is not necessarily seen as having this year. Then again, these things are all relative and I did vote for her to win in both the nominating and winner rounds, so maybe she does have strong-enough material this time. I have Grace right now on Zendaya lines, but it is not a performance that I anticipated would be win-competitive when I watched it.July 29, 2021 at 9:29 pm #1204371250
Random observation that someone might have already made: It is not every year that we get an expansion like The Boys had, going from a single sound editing nomination (that it got entirely through that category’s panel system) for its debut season to Series and Writing nominations the next year, accompanied by various below-the-line categories that it missed the first time. The WGA nomination hinted at its potential, but it just as easily could have gone the way of Mindhunter last year. That was another show that broke through at WGA and seemed to be fairly widely seen and liked, but all that it ended up doing was going from one Creative Arts nomination to a different one.July 29, 2021 at 3:29 pm #1204370417
Those three have not published yet, but they are coming!ReplyJuly 28, 2021 at 7:17 pm #1204368722
Putting aside that Cynthia Erivo is not Regina King, all of Erivo’s competitors this year are stronger than King’s main one that year.July 27, 2021 at 11:11 am #1204365981
No, when it’s two separated episodes it’s not one script. And FX and the production have always considered the season to have 7 episodes only, not 8
This is actually irrelevant, as the rule is about length, not credits/commercials/production/publicity. You can have an episode that is abnormally long, like The Boys has one episode that is 54 minutes and another that is 67. That is fine, but go back to something like the Emmy-winning first season of Homeland. Their average episode was 51 minutes, so their 84-minute finale had to be counted as two episodes for the series tapes. If you want to stream the Pose series finale on FX’s platform or buy it on Amazon Prime, they actually have split it up. Nobody has ever split “Marine One” up, but it was still long enough that it would have been an unfair advantage under that system for it to have an extra episode. The wording in the rules has not really changed since then for this, but it has no bearing on the outcome of the race these days, so the Emmys are no longer following it. The first season of Westworld averaged 59 minutes before the finale, so the 90-minute finale should have had to count as two episodes like the first season finale of Homeland, but the Emmys allowed it to count as one. Anything goes now!ReplyJuly 27, 2021 at 1:32 am #1204365270
Yes Emma Corrin can still be our winner, but starting an argument comparing Rodriguez to people who were undoubtedly weaker than her is off.
Not undoubtedly weaker or even weaker at all. Ramy missed series, but so many of these passion picks did. Not knowing that Schitt’s Creek was headed for the biggest comedy sweep ever, Eugene Levy looked weaker than Emma Corrin, with his more subtle performance and lack of measurable buzz in the form of precursors. And we are back to undermining Unorthodox.July 26, 2021 at 10:56 pm #1204365121
Succession’s Sarah Snook was what you can call a Emma Corrin this year, young, check all the boxes, breakthrough performance with passion to spare in a series winner
No.July 26, 2021 at 9:50 pm #1204365061
Does anyone know how the rule actually works?
The Emmys variably do not know their own rules. Nobody is really gaining an advantage here though.ReplyJuly 26, 2021 at 9:34 pm #1204365012
Mj Rodriguez is Shira Haas, Ramy Youssef, etc. Sure, in another year, she would win, but she is going up against someone who ticks all the boxes, so there is not reason to think that she would leapfrog her. Haas was in the first runner-up in the series race and she had the kind of breakthrough performance that has wielded a winning level of passion in recent years, but Regina King was strong too and Watchmen was sweeping. Rodriguez is not in the first runner-up in the series race, but she is a passion pick. But Emma Corrin is strong too and The Crown is sweeping.
The Crown is not going 1-for-18 like Ozark (Zendaya over Linney), it is not a broadcast soap like How to Get Away with Murder (Maslany over Davis) or something not competitive for series like House of Cards (Malek over Spacey). The Crown is sweeping the ceremony, like Schitt’s Creek and Watchmen and unlike Ozark, How to Get Away with Murder and House of Cards, so its acclaimed and pivotal lead is not going to randomly get left behind.
This is a sweep era—well, system actually. I entertained the ideas of Haas and Youssef overcoming sweeps, as well as Benedict Cumberbatch over Darren Criss, plus Jeremy Strong losing last year. Others had Julia Louis-Dreyfus or Catherine O’Hara over Phoebe Waller-Bridge and Rachel Brosnahan. Enough!
Billy Porter beat Jason Bateman, but would/did he beat Jeremy Strong? Jodie Comer beat Sandra Oh, but woul she have beaten Elisabeth Moss? Zendaya beat Laura Linney, but would she have beaten Moss either? The Crown season 4 at the Emmys is that The Handmaid’s Tale season 1; it is Succession season 2; it is Watchmen; it is Big Little Lies season 1 and Rodriguez is facing it. She did not get lucky like Riz Ahmed or Sterling K. Brown or Bill Hader and land in a category that was up for grabs.
I am not saying that leading a series winner guarantees you the win. But nobody thinks that Emma Corrin is Kit Harington or Jeremy Irons or even Jared Harris. She is actually the Jharrel Jerome, the Zendaya, the Mj Rodriguez that we would be arguing could upset the frontrunner.July 26, 2021 at 6:32 pm #1204364745
Emma Corrin is in the series winner and is a breakout star. Either one has proved to be enough, so both together should be unbeatable. Do not overthink it.July 23, 2021 at 5:17 pm #1204359887
There are way too many categories for history to factor into a vote for a supporting Emmy. What concerns me about Michael K. Williams is whether Lovecraft Country is something that seems strong because of all of its nominations, but has actually inspired significant apathy, like how widely-nominated Better Call Saul and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt could not get what should have been getable wins for Jonathan Banks and Tituss Burgess.July 13, 2021 at 10:16 am #1204342948
It’s wild that there’s two multi-can directing noms.
Per the proportional rule, the only way that we could have two multi-camera nominees is if they tied, so I assume that they each got two votes.Not now