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October 4, 2019 at 11:33 am #1203121357
The legendary Diahann Carroll, who earned an Oscar nomination for her performance in 1974’s Claudine, has died at the age of 84.
Really sadSeptember 24, 2019 at 2:33 am #1203099365
This is wrong, I’ve seen Chernobyl fans list Jerome among the worst wins of the night for beating Harris, claiming that he was ‘robbed’. They have made it very obvious that had WTSU won, they would be in uproar. This thread is a perfect example of that. Not satisfied with their preferred show winning, they’re now convincing themselves of an editorial conspiracy.
ExactlySeptember 24, 2019 at 1:51 am #1203099328
Specifically changing being able to vote for how many you want. Without that rule we very likely would have had less Game of Thrones nominees. I believe that rule leads to less passion picks and more picks with wide exposure
Yeah this totally needs to be rectified.September 24, 2019 at 1:33 am #1203099322
The premise of this thread verges on ludicrous. First of all, this lapse in judgment was not limited to the so-called Experts. When They See Us was favoured to win by every group: Experts, Editors, Top 24, All-Stars and yes, even Users. Hundreds more of them predicted When They See Us. And it is not like there is some conspiracy among the pundits to propel When They See Us when many of them theoretically voted Chernobyl over it to win TCA. That is great that Scott Feinberg is a moron, but almost every Expert ultimately ranked it second or first. Chernobyl had a better ranking than Fleabag and that show did even better at TCA, so where is the outrage about them not predicting it for the Emmys?
When They See Us had better critical reviews than Chernobyl, it was a Program of the Year nominee at TCA, tons of people apparently watched it, it had a 9.0 on IMDb despite all of the racist trolls there, it was politically topical, it had the most aggressive campaigner behind it in Netflix and it was clearly the favourite of the audience in the Microsoft Theater, which theoretically had tons of Emmy voters. It was nominated for writing, directing, cinematography, sound and so on. It won casting and the last seven winners of that won either movie or limited series. I reckon that it is the first ever limited series to have eight acting nominations and lose limited series.
Like if you predicted The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, you were wrong, but I am not going to drag you through the mud and tell you how stupid you were. It had the most nominations, it won a record number of guild awards for the same season and it has now set records for how well it did in spite of losing comedy series. It won four acting Emmys, tied the all-time record that it set last year in terms of wins by a single season of a comedy and it is now the first comedy ever to win six Creative Arts Emmys and lose series.
The arguments for predicting When They See Us and The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel were ultimately wrong, but they were sound. You act like all that When They See Us had was narrative, but it had statistics too. It was not Veep.
Also I don’t understand how it was wrong to predict WTSU. I mean I came third in the predictions and I had WTSU in directing and series, so EVERYONE, not just experts, were predicting WTSU.
The ‘conspiracy theory’ is laughable. Why would I want to sabotage my own score? And I don’t even regret making those two predictions because – a) this was a very close race, and b) the passionate support was there. The stats were there.
Also, many people weren’t discounting Chernobyl, they were just against the blatant racism that was being used in the limited thread to bring down WTSU. I remember making a long post on this, so I won’t repeat myself. Both Chernobyl and WTSU were equally deserving of winning the main prize, and BOTH had passionate support to take it. But some people here were actually bringing WTSU down for obviously racist reasons, and that is what was being called out by most.
Let’s not pretend that some of you all weren’t attacking WSTU and making it seem like it was Bohemian Rhapsody when it had everything going for it to win.September 23, 2019 at 10:51 pm #1203099174
Well to begin with I actually came THIRD in the prediction center which is my best Emmys showing ever!! So I am totally gonna gloat about that.
The prediction I am absolutely the most proud of is Patricia Arquette. I remember making the argument here that I don’t understand why Clarkson is an alleged “lock” when Joey King got nominated in Lead but Eliza Scanlen couldn’t get nominated in supporting. If the acting branch really saw Sharp Objects, or were passionate about it, Scanlen should have made it in. So I am glad I got that one right.
I am also happy about realising that Asante Blackk will be stealing too many votes from Michael Williams for Ben Whishaw to easily win.
I am still baffled at people not predicting Phoebe Waller Bridge in Lead Actress. I know JLD had won six times, but Veep had virtually lost support in every category, while Fleabag was beloved in almost every branch. So I am glad I predicted Waller-Bridge dethroning her. I actually had JLD in third.
Like @thedemonhog said, I predicted a Fleabag sweep because it didn’t make sense to predict Barry for directing while I had Fleabag taking series, Actress, writing, and Supporting Actress (got the last one wrong), after it took Casting and Editing. So I am glad I predicting its win in directing as well.
I knew that Maisel was not winning because that writing snub was absolutely vital, and I am glad I didn’t get swayed by Creative Arts and stuck to my guns.
I think Succession in writing and Chernobyl in writing are also predictions I am proud of, because as Riley helped me realize, the writing branch is just too savvy to not reward the best writing, especially if the show is a series nominee.
Of the predictions I was wrong in, I only regret TV Movie. I really should have predicted Black Mirror. That was stupid. All the other predictions I could never have gotten right so I don’t regret making them. Like there is no way I could have predicted Ozark in Directing (that one still baffles me, although I did him have him in 4th lol), and I could never have predicted Comer to overcome vote-splitting and not Oh.
The Chernobyl wins in Series and Directing too I couldn’t have predicted because I thought WTSU had too much passion.
Riley our predictions really overlapped a lot, so I am glad we did this well this year.September 22, 2019 at 8:41 pm #1203096883
It’s still disgusting that Sandra Oh lost to Katherine Heigl and I’ll never forgive the Emmys for it. It’s just one more reason why I am glad we don’t have the atrocious tape system anymore.September 22, 2019 at 8:36 pm #1203096853
Wow I came THIRD in the predictions? Nice!!!
I am actually really proud of my Patricia Arquette prediction because literally everyone was convinced Clarkson was a lock.
I also hate the fact that I had Deadwood for TV Movie because I should have switched to Black Mirror. That was probably the only prediction I regret making.September 22, 2019 at 6:53 pm #1203095357
ugh the boring variety categories
I’m 13/17 right now.September 22, 2019 at 6:07 pm #1203094608
I’m shocked Ava lost directing. But I’m now glad I switched to Chernobyl in writing.
I am 8/10 right now.
And damn Gwendoline Christie with that MASSIVE applause.September 22, 2019 at 6:03 pm #1203094526
I predicted the right PATRICIA!!September 22, 2019 at 5:54 pm #1203094381
I AM SO HAPPY I PREDICTED PHOEBE DEFEATING JULIA
So fleabag has comedy series locked and Maisel literally won all of its acting awards because of vote splitting of Fleabag, Barry, and SNL actorsSeptember 22, 2019 at 5:41 pm #1203094144
So did we have Maisel overperforming or just benefiting from vote splitting in all 4 of the acting categories it won?
Fleabag should take series as writing + directing + casting + editing is too strong a combo for it to lose the main one.
If Phoebe takes Best Actress then I’m convinced Maisel won its acting awards because of vote split.
I’m 4/5 right nowSeptember 21, 2019 at 1:58 am #1203090190
I am most confused about supporting actress of any category, so I am kind of glad it will probably be the first one presented.
I think I have had Gilpin, Goldberg, Colman, and Borstein as my pick at different stages. Any one of those four can win.
I am sticking with Colman now because I have feeling the academy may be voting for both the seasons together, in which case Colman’s performance in season 1 (and even season 2) will definitely get votes. Plus she is the bigger name, and just won the Oscar so there will be afterglow.
I guess I am just not sure who benefits between Gilpin and Goldberg if vote splitting happens, so I’ll just stick to Colman.September 16, 2019 at 5:54 am #1203079805
We flipped out two years ago when Stranger Things won five Creative Arts Emmys, including main title design. Only one of those wins was over The Handmaid’s Tale (and it was deserved). Although it had done very well overall (eighteen nominations), Stranger Things had some random signs of weakness in the nominations phase (Winona Ryder). The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is the Stranger Things here. It won six Creative Arts Emmys, but only one was over Fleabag (and it was deserved). Although it did very well in nominations (twenty), there was random weakness (writing).
Then again, Game of Thrones came out of the Creative Arts last year without casting or editing, then it went on to lose writing and directing. The competition was so steep that supporting actor was the only award that it won at the main telecast aside from series. So The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel could be Game of Thrones. Maybe the field is divided enough that it still has enough to take series. Plus its losses can be chalked up to merit (casting and writing) or vote-splitting (directing and editing). And both won more at the Creative Arts than expected, with seven for Game of Thrones and six for The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.
But Game of Thrones did not have that glaring writing snub that Mrs. Maisel has, and in a race this close, I am not going to discount that writing snub.
I have decided to go all-in on Fleabag, and am predicting it for Series, Lead Actress, Writing, Directing, and even Supporting Actress for Coleman.
The only one I might change is Coleman because she might suffer from vote-splitting with Clifford because that Scott-Thomas loss to Jane Lynch is making me nervous about vote-splitting affecting supporting actress as well. Then again, I can’t fathom how Fiona Shaw could steal that many votes from Scott-Thomas to begin with, unless there were votes wanting to reward her for both Killing Eve and Fleabag in this category.