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December 5, 2019 at 1:59 am #1203217772
I think so, because what if someone steals that chord progression? If it’s unique enough, whoever wrote it can’t get royalties because he didn’t get a songwriting credit. If you add a chord progression to an existing song, it becomes a slightly different song. I think Jack should have gotten the songwriting credit.
You can’t really copyright a chord progression. There are only a certain number of chords that are diatonic to the key (not borrowing notes from another key), so there are only so many chord progressions possible.
There are a huge number of pop songs written with the same 4 chords, usually some variation of I-IV-V-vi (transposed into different keys) and there are several Youtube videos where they try to fit as many of these songs into a single performance.
This one by The Axis of Awesome might be the best known.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
There was another one from about 2017 where Ed Sheeran asked people to name a current song from the pop charts and he would play it (using guitar and vocals) using the same four chords.
There might be a few songs that would cause him problems, but not many.
Chord substitutions/reharmonization of existing songs isn’t usually considered songwriting either, as long as the melody is unchanged.
ReplyDecember 5, 2019 at 12:27 am #1203217714Billie Eilish Lands Massive Payday ($25M) for Apple TV+ Documentary For those that wanna keep doubting Billie lol
Isn’t that about 10 x the advance she got from her label? Great for her if she get a deal like that, but how is one TV documentary worth so much more than her recording contract?
ReplyNovember 28, 2019 at 3:42 am #1203206767The Pitchfork score is a factor, it was their highest score in half a decade so that’s an achievement. Also, Lana’s album scores had a higher spread than Ariana’s scores, Lana got more very high reviews but also more low reviews. Lana got several perfect 100 ratings with reviewers hailing NFR as a masterpiece, while Ariana’s highest score was a 91. Lana also got several 60/100 ratings that brought down her score while Ariana only got one 60/100, so in the end NFR only averaged one point above TUN. I guess this means that Ariana’s album is universally liked while Lana’s album is not universally liked, but the people who love it really love it.
Is Pitchfork acclaim a factor?
Here is the Pitchfork decade list with their 200 Best Albums of the 2010s
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-200-best-albums-of-the-2010s/Top 20:
20. DJ Rashad: Double Cup
19. Lana Del Rey – Norman Fucking Rockwell
18. Kendrick Lamar – good kid m.A.A.d city
17. Sufjan Stevens – Carrie & Lowell
16. Joanna Newsom: Have One on Me
15. Kanye West – Yeezus
14. Lorde – Melodrama
13. Drake – Take Care
12. Rihanna – Anti
11. Grimes – Art Angels
10. Frank Ocean – Channel Orange
09. D’Angelo – Black Messiah
08. Robyn – Body Talk
07. Vampire Weekend – Modern Vampire of the City
06. Solange – A Seat at the Table
05. Fiona Apple – The Idler Wheel
04. Kendrick Lamar – To Pimp A Butterfly
03. Beyonce – Beyonce
02. Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
01. Frank Ocean – BlondeHow many of of them are AOTY winners?
How many of them are #1 albums, or otherwise high charting albums and received no Grammy wins in the general field or in their genre?
November 23, 2019 at 4:56 am #1203198323I think I know what it is. Ive seen a lot of Lana stan twitter accounts argue with basically every fanbase over the past 2 days. Majority of them believe that since Golden Hour won by being the most acclaimed and not the most commercially successful that NFR! will have the same result.
I’m not sure if they’ve given AOTY to an acclaimed album choice 2 years in a row. Most of the time they give it one of the big selling albums and only give it to the acclaimed album once every 5-10 years.
But if we are going to make that comparison, is Lana Del Rey this year’s Kacey Musgraves, or is she a Lorde or a Janelle Monáe?
Kacey – nominated album “Golden Hour” – 2019 awards
was the album nominated in own it’s genre – Golden Hour was nominated for (and won) Best Country Album and she was also nominated for (and won) Best Country Song and Best Country Solo Performance
was it a “safe” album choice – yes, no explicit tracks
previous Grammy wins – Best Country Album, Best Country songLorde – nominated album “Melodrama” – 2018 awards
album nominated in own genre – no
safe album – no, several explicit tracks
previous Grammy wins – Song of the Year and Best Pop Solo performanceJanelle – nominated album “Dirty Computer” – 2019 awards
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album nominated in own genre – no
safe album – no, several explicit tracks
previous Grammy wins – noneNovember 22, 2019 at 6:50 pm #1203197846This is the one category that results in a “shock” most years cause the board never gets the prediction right lol. Most likely to win: Bon Iver or Vampire Weekend Spoiler: Ariana
When did we last have a shock? Didn’t most people predict Kacey Musgraves earlier this year and Bruno back in 2018? My mistake was not putting him in my predictions for RoTY and SoTY too.
I wasn’t on here when Taylor Swift and Adele won in 2016 and 2017, but surely these winners weren’t a “shock” to anyone.
This year might be a little bit more difficult to predict, but most of the time the list of likely winners has been quite small.
ReplyNovember 22, 2019 at 6:39 pm #1203197842All the people who are predicting Vampire Weekend or Bon Iver wins are not the people who actually listen to this type of music and listened to the albums in full, these people just recognize that this is famous “serious” white people music that sound like plausible winners. People who actually love indie music are mostly very mehhh about these albums and won’t be voting for them. People who don’t love indie music wouldn’t be voting for them in the first place. Contra and Self Titled are far superior to the new VW, and For Emma, Forever Ago is far superior to i,i.
I’m a Modern Vampires of the City fan myself, but you could have used this same paragraph back in 2014/2015 to explain why Beck wasn’t going to win with Morning Phase.
ReplyNovember 20, 2019 at 9:59 pm #1203194089You can get a win for sales/charts performance or with an acclaimed album.
Typical acclaimed album AOTY winner has most of the following.
White
American
Male
safe album also nominated in own genreBonus points for previous genre or general field winner
Bonus points for long history of acclaimed albums and/or veteran artistBeck had pretty much all of the above, while Arcade Fire had most (technically Canadian, but front man Will Butler was a US Citizen born in California).
Kacey Musgraves, a former Best Country Album and Song winner also matched that list quite well and her album was nominated for and won her genre category again. Being female probably didn’t hurt her chances in the #MeToo grammys of 2019, when they were recovering from the “Need to Step Up” grammys of 2018.
Looking at the current nominees, former grammy winners Vampire Weekend and Bon Iver appear to be the best match. I’m picking Vampire Weekend right now.
ReplyNovember 20, 2019 at 8:51 pm #1203193959Does Taylor have a good chance of winning SOTY because she is the ONLY writer for Lover?
Just wait for the Rolling Stone article. I’m sure they will have the answer you are looking for.
ReplyNovember 20, 2019 at 6:47 am #1203191522AOTY: 5/8
ROTY: 6/8
SOTY: 5/8
BNA: 5/8Some good luck with a few of my late changes.
November 20, 2019 at 6:19 am #1203191308what are lana chances to win aoty with only 2 nomitations?? sad cause she really deserves it
If the voters go for an acclaimed album, the safe choices are Vampire Weekend or Bon Iver who were also nominated in their genre field.
November 20, 2019 at 5:55 am #1203191018I’m glad I changed my AOTY picks to include Vampire Weekend for Father of the Bride. In some respects their weakest album – Modern Vampires of the City is one of my favourite albums of the decade – but still better than most of the nominees.
November 20, 2019 at 5:50 am #1203190932Jack Antonoff made it into producer. Tove Lo made it into Music video with “Glad He’s Gone”
November 20, 2019 at 5:41 am #1203190804The website leak was RIGHT??
Some parts appeared to be right at least. Not sure if it was 100%.
November 20, 2019 at 5:23 am #1203190388The YT feed appears to be slightly behind the twitter feed.
November 20, 2019 at 4:08 am #1203189972Ok let’s play a last minute game. Who here thinks the leak is fake or real? No maybe you gotta choose and we’ll see who’s right after.
I’ll say what I said before, there’s probably 60:40 likelihood. But now that I’ve thought about it, I wonder if the Grammys know that we know about the 403/404 pages, and if the do, did they update all of the ones where new pages were needed?
Or did they stop and does that mean that there are artists who’s page currently returns 404, but they’re getting nominated anyway?
I suspect we will still get some surprises.
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