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February 2, 2023 at 8:05 am #1205280730
Well, the backlash has already started even with the DOUBT of Beyoncé not winning Album of the Year. NYT has just published a piece on how it’s her time more than ever. Beyoncé losing AOTY once again: now, THAT would look really bad. No one cares about any other artist this year. It’s Beyoncé’s time. https://www.nytimes.com/svc/oembed/html/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2023%2F02%2F02%2Farts%2Fmusic%2Fgrammy-awards-beyonce.html#?secret=Zd5dg4B4DO
The public would be happy with Adele winning. This backlash would only come from stans online lol.February 1, 2023 at 10:48 pm #1205280480
The only reason BTS’s fans want them to win a Grammy is because we know they guys want to win one. They have won over 800 awards and the only significant award they have yet to win is a Grammy. If they win one we will finally be free to forget about the darn show and award. Didn’t the editors think Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga would win last year? Maybe that was just the majority of the people who were posting, but anyhow…I don’t see Abba winning.
???? Oscar, BAFTA, Emmy, Tony…
They’ve won all the awards fans can vote for, but when it comes to industry acknowledgment, it’s a big fat 0 lol.February 1, 2023 at 7:33 pm #1205280335
HITS Daily Double’s #GRAMMYs predictions:
Album of the Year — Renaissance
Song of the Year — All Too Well (10 Minute)
Record of the Year — The Heart Part 5
Best New Artist — Muni Long pic.twitter.com/UZkXXbgK9B
— Pop Base (@PopBase) February 1, 2023
I mean… this would be a way to get everyone they want to show up lol.February 1, 2023 at 6:00 pm #1205280251
If BTS loses ? Will it be the 3rd time in a row ? Their fans are gonna blow up every social media platform.
Yes, three times in a row. Each time decimated their fans’ reasons as to why they lost.
With Gaga and Ariana, it was racism.
With Doja and Sza, it was xenophobia.
With Abba, it’ll be… They’re not American. Doja and Sza are POC…
Maybe it’s ’cause they are a boyband.February 1, 2023 at 10:52 am #1205279686
Moving Music Film to the telecast is a CBS move. Adele One Night Only was aired on CBS and won it five awards (the only show to win them Primetime Emmys). They are probably banking on an Adele win. It probably won’t mean anything for the other categories. Adele could still lose in other categories, but just saying.
Yeah, this makes sense. Why not flex their own wins. I don’t think it’s indicative of anything other than that.February 1, 2023 at 10:13 am #1205279604
I think Vegas backlash is being a bit overestimated. Only ticket holders were really mad at Adele. She would only face major backlash if she was outed as a Tory or something like that, which we can safely say it’s not going to happen. If Adele loses it’ll be just because competition is very cutthroat this year and 30, albeit a blockbuster, wasn’t as big as 21 or 25. But it was still gigantic, one of the biggest albums of the year.
Yeah, the moment the show actually started, all was forgiven. People went to the show and loved it.
‘As It Was’ would be a deserving winner and just feels like a “Grammy” song, but I really love ‘Easy on Me’ for what’s it worth.February 1, 2023 at 10:09 am #1205279589
Variety’s new issue included anonymous ballots from Grammy voters:
Dang… that “8,000 writers” comment sounding like it’s coming straight from a stan’s mouth. Feels very pointed, but I won’t say towards whom. Such a snobby, weird take from people who are supposedly “professionals” in the industry.February 1, 2023 at 10:05 am #1205279582
I saw the Los Angeles Times predictions but seems like they haven’t predicted anything beyond Pop Duo/Group in Pop categories. Anyways, Los Angeles Times: BEST POP DUO/GROUP PERFORMANCE Should win: Sam Smith and Kim Petras, “Unholy” Will win: Coldplay and BTS, “My Universe”
I kind of agree with this. I just can’t wrap my head around the idea of ‘Unholy’ winning a Grammy…
Granted, I would rather BTS not win a Grammy because their fans will be insufferable about it lol, but I think Coldplay’s name is a big draw here.
Edit: Just saw the GD editors seem to think Abba’s got this in the bag???? Is it because they’re Abba and don’t yet have a Grammy? What a shocking upset that’ll be. Poor Abba will have to deal with the wrath of BTS fans.February 1, 2023 at 10:04 am #1205279579
There’s some serious Rihanna anti-dicting going on here…
Nah, Rihanna is comfortably top three and no one’s denying that.
I only said what I said because not even Gaga was the “most buzzed about” person at the luncheon when she was nominated for Best Actress and Original Song.January 30, 2023 at 11:11 pm #1205275535
This is simply not true. Unless “buzzed” has a new meaning Rihanna will undoubtedly be the most talked about person that day perhaps even week as that user said. We all saw what happened at the Golden Globes where the host and several winners all used it as an opportunity to name drop her. Now will all that talk on social media and in the press really sway ppl to put votes towards her just because…. Probably not but point still stands
To think someone whose sole nomination is for a category most people don’t care about will be the “most talked about person” is delusional. It just doesn’t fall in line with what we’ve seen. People will for sure be excited about Rihanna’s celebrity status, including my own fave, but that’s where it begins and ends. Had she won at the GG then I would agree, but it makes no sense to say this.January 30, 2023 at 8:42 am #1205274616
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this already, but the Oscars nominees luncheon is happening on February 13, which is right after Rihanna’s Super Bowl performance on the 12th. So Rihanna should easily be the most buzzed about attendee that day, since it’s gonna be her first appearance after performing to over 100 million people. This can help her tremendously with her winning chances…
Not to downplay the immense achievement a Super Bowl performance is, but they’re two entirely different worlds. The “most buzzed about attendees” will be people from EEAAO and other Oscar picture favorites.January 30, 2023 at 6:47 am #1205274477
I mean, idk how else to respond to this not being believable. Lol. ‘Tis very much my fault for not updating my profile before posting again (my username/signature are from when I would troll these forums trying to convince people Lover was getting an AOTY nom… lol). I have no dog in this fight, and am all for Adele tying Taylor’s record, because they’re completely arbitrary accolades and also, I’m an adult with like, a job, lmao. I just don’t understand the fervent argument that this was a hugely successful era for Adele, when it absolutely did not hold up to the standards she set for herself — and that’s okay! Not every album rollout has to be a massive success that captures the larger cultures attention. It was by no means a “flop” because Adele has clearly set herself up in a position that people will always listen to what she puts out. My only argument is that, in order for me to feel confident that she was going to take this over Beyoncé, this has to be an undeniable record on par with 30/25, and it simply was not. That’s not to say it sucked, or it was a flop, etc. etc. But Renaissance was bigger, better received, had more impact, etc. The last time voters had to decide between Adele and Beyoncé, they both brought albums that were being deemed their best to the table, and Adele had the edge. This time, I think it leans towards Beyoncé…. really that simple!
In Adele’s defense, her “standard” is 30,000,000 album sales lol. Expecting her to live up to that is delusion at its best.
To…musical critics? As it does for every album per year? Renaissance IS the most acclaimed album of the year, per Metacritic points and AOTY.org that accumulates musical publications. Just as DAMN, Fetch the Bolt Cutters, NFR, and even Blackstar in the year of Lemonade topped both MC and AOTY. Jon Batiste’s album didn’t even have 5 MC reviews to its name.
That’s my point. That clearly doesn’t matter to the Grammys so constantly bringing it up doesn’t make sense in this context.January 28, 2023 at 3:03 pm #1205272805
I think you’re greatly overblowing the impact this album had, especially when compared to her last 2. When I say it didn’t make a splash, I’m not pretending no one tuned in; Adele is one of the biggest album artists active right now, of course people listen when she drops. I’d argue that I do live in the real world, where the biggest stories to come out of this album cycle were the last-minute cancellations of her Vegas show and the fact that she practically shut down vinyl production to mass-produce a record that greatly underperformed in vinyl sales and ended up on sale for 9.99 a year later. The Grammy’s obviously love Adele — though the argument that Beyoncé is any less adored by voters is faulty, considering she received more noms this cycle than Adele. There’s obviously a really, really good chance she wins here, which is why I have her at a strong 2nd. But for the reasons I explained, I just don’t think this album and its cycle was strong enough to overtake Beyoncé, a massive name in the industry operating at her best who is overdue for an AOTY win.
Oh, I’m not even talking about “impact”. Very few albums have impact, but lack of impact hasn’t stopped the Grammys from awarding albums in the past.
The voters prefer Beyonce for smaller awards, though, and that’s my point. There’s something about Beyonce the voters do not feel is “worthy” of the night’s top prize. I don’t know what it is, and I do kind of agree the narrative is in her favor this year, but nothing has really changed with how Beyonce creates her music that would warrant changing the voters’ minds regarding that. Lemonade and self-titled were also considered to be her magnum opuses at the time and the Grammys still said, “no, thank you”, and self-titled had a massive impact and changed the game for many artists. If B loses again, I have no idea what it would take for her to finally get these people on her side.January 28, 2023 at 12:59 pm #1205272662
1. Renaissance She’s about to become the most awarded person in Grammy’s history, she’s well past overdue to win AOTY, and she released an extremely well-received, well-crafted, critical and commercial smash album over 20 years into her career. They’ve slighted her in the past, but this just feels like the time for Beyoncé to finally take it home; If she doesn’t, it really will be a question of what more does she have to do? I struggle to see it going any other way. 2. 30 Adele needed to be undeniable in order to take this, and I just don’t see that being the case. Taylor won her 3rd AOTY because folklore was undeniable, a career-defining magnum opus. (Not to mention, up against much weaker competition.) There’s no narrative to Adele winning this for an album that failed to make a splash, anchored by a lead single that is significantly less memorable than any of her more organic hits. If Beyoncé wasn’t in this category, I’d say Adele takes it just by nature of being Adele, but I don’t think that’s going to carry her through this time. (The argument of 25 vs. Lemonade doesn’t hold up because 25 was a much different situation than 30.) 3. In These Silent Days I don’t see this being a year where commercially successful megastars are upset by an industry act, but if it is, this is Brandi’s to lose. She clearly has credibility amongst her peers, and has only become more high profile after stepping into her role as Joni Mitchell’s handler. I think both Beyoncé and Adele have enough passion behind them that one of them will take it, but this wouldn’t be the craziest win. It’s really just between these 3 for me. ABBA and Mary J. Blige were namecheck nominations, Kendrick has lost for much bigger/better albums against weaker competition, Bad Bunny won’t rally enough support from the larger voting body to win it all, and Lizzo/Coldplay/Harry are just happy to be there.
This isn’t meant as shade, but you don’t live in the real world if you don’t think Adele’s album “made a splash”. Sure, maybe she didn’t have the 3,000 PR articles posted like we always get with Taylor’s albums, but the public was absolutely tuning in, streaming, buying, and paying attention to her with the same awe and respect as always. Her 5x Emmy-winning live special proves that as it went viral and was lauded all across the industry.
The thing about Adele is that she doesn’t need to be flashy. She doesn’t need articles and glowing reviews to get the industry talking. The industry pays attention and loves her simply because of who she is.
That’s not to say she has it in the bag 100%, but some of you are fooling yourselves trying to downplay what a force she still is and will forever be.
Adele winning isn’t the issue. I think it’s Adele winning over Beyoncé again. Especially when Bey has the more acclaimed album again. That’s gotta be the big pushback against Adele.
More acclaimed according to whom? People on the Internet? Definitely not the Grammys. It’s clear the industry views Beyonce’s work much more differently than the Internet pundits who often will praise albums for clicks and out of fear of a popstar’s fanbase. At the end of the day, it’s clear the Grammys do not care about what reviews say.Not now