Just a good church going southern boy, who always watched the Oscars as religiously as church. One of my favorite places to be is in a dark theater, getting lost in another world for a couple of hours.
Nov 03, 2010
Jan 19, 2020
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January 18, 2020 at 5:34 pm #1203291309
Movies like The Post and Spotlight to me were very tense and exciting. It can be tough to show research and interviews in the same thrilling way as a car chase or a bear attack. But I loved both movies and I’m very thrilled Spotlight won best picture (I didn’t care for The Revenant). I actually though Rachael was did a great job showing care and empathy with her sources. I too would have nominated Keaton over Ruffalo.January 16, 2020 at 2:15 pm #1203288164
This lose was so frustrating to me. It was just a “okay let’s give Newman his Oscar” & a win for Monsters Inc. since it was losing to Shrek.
Pearl Harbour is a terrible film but it’s already an Oscar winner and There You’ll Be was a big pop hit so there no reason it should’ve lost.
This is one where I believe she was a very strong 2nd place. I think her next best chance was I Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing. Stephen Schwartz had already won for Pocahontas and Aerosmith’s version was HUGEJanuary 16, 2020 at 11:51 am #1203287955
I think it’s tough to call some of the more recent winners controversial, yet. I think the historical ones that stick out are the ones that have fans and critics looking back and asking why more for who lost than who won. Many of these wins have already been discussed in this thread, such as:
1950 – Judy Holliday over 2 of the most iconic performances in film: Bette Davis in All About Eve and Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard
1951 – Bogey over Brando
1952 – The Greatest Show on Earth over High Noon or The Quiet Man
1954 – Grace Kelly over Judy Garland
1956 – was Around the World in 80 Days controversial?
1960 – Elizabeth Taylor’s tracheotomy over the other nominees
1967 – Hepburn over Bancroft & Dunaway
1968 – Cliff Robertson (on his own, and) over Arkin & O’Toole
1973 – Tatum O’Neal is becoming more controversial as time goes on. From saying she was actually a lead to saying she was heavily coached to make that performance. Also, how controversial was Lemmon’s win?
1974 – I think even Bergman doesn’t know how she won. Carney’s win against some VERY heavy hitters was a bit shocking I’m sure
1976 – Feel good Rocky over very important 70s cinema of All the President’s Men, Network, and Taxi Driver still bristles after 40+ yearsJanuary 16, 2020 at 9:43 am #1203287774
What? I hadn’t noticed this. And this is her second streak, she did something similar from 96 to 01. Can’t believe she’s been nominated so much recently. She’s such a filler nominee, she needs to work on a bigger film if she couldn’t even win with the Gaga song.
I listened to her on RuPaul’s podcast months ago and she talked about this song and how she thought/hoped it would be nominated. She talked a lot about her nominations.
Unfortunately for Diane Warren, she either has a memorable song up against a juggernaut, or a middling song/film on more open years. Here are her nominations and the winners:
1987 – Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now – Mannequin (winner: The Time of My Life – Dirty Dancing)
1996 – Because You Loved Me – Up Close and Personal (winner: You Must Love Me – Evita)
1997 – How Do I Live – Con Air (winner: My Heart Will Go On – Titanic)
1998 – I Don’t Want To Miss a Thing – Armageddon (winner: When You Believe: The Prince of Egypt)
1999 – Music of My Heart – Music of the Heart (winner: You’ll Be in My Heart – Tarzan)
2001 – There You’ll Be – Pearl Harbor (winner: If I Didn’t Have You – Monsters, Inc.)
2014 – Grateful – Beyond the Lights (winner: Glory – Selma)
2015 – Til It Happens to You – The Hunting Ground (winner: Writing’s on the Wall – Spectre)
2017 – Stand Up For Something – Marshall (winner: Remember Me – Coco)
2018 – I’ll Fight – RBG (winner: Shallow – A Star Is Born)
I think she did come in 2nd at least quite often, but some songs are too big, some movies are too big, some Oscar narratives are too big.January 16, 2020 at 9:32 am #1203287760
I think what people are overlooking with the Rocketman nom is not that it’d be an Elton win, but it’d be a Bernie Taupin win. All of Elton’s big wins haven’t been for writing with Bernie. His Grammys are performance except for Aida’s musical show award, his Oscar and Tony are with Tim Rice. Elton winning with Bernie would be a great story, especially with it being for the movie Rocketman.January 15, 2020 at 11:46 am #1203286365
Here’s my opinion on likelihood of winning:
2. Adapted Screenplay
5. Supporting Actor
6. Visual Effects
7. Supporting Actor
9. Production Design
10. Costume DesignJanuary 15, 2020 at 11:30 am #1203286320
2011 will always and forever be the dullest year for me. None of the nominees sound exciting on paper.
Midnight in Paris
The Tree of Life
Boring choices. No exceptions.
Outside of last year, this is the other more recent year that I was looking at. Nothing I really rallied behind, although I did love Hugo more than most did.January 15, 2020 at 10:39 am #1203286223
I don’t count suspense/thriller the same as horror. Horror usually (not always) has some sort of supernatural element to it that a regular thriller doesn’t. But of horror, The Exorcist would have been most likely followed by Get Out. Rosemary’s Baby would have made it in an expanded lineup. Scream would have been a great screenplay nominee. It would have knocked out Lone Star if the Academy had been so bold (the other 4 nominees were BP nominees). But you can also go back to the James Whale Frankenstein movies to look for nominees.January 15, 2020 at 7:14 am #1203285756
Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voigt for the 50th anniversary of Midnight Cowboy winning best picture. Or Maggie Smith & Goldie Hawn for the 50th anniversary of their Oscar wins, well, Maggie’s first.
Or Tom Hanks and Sally Field for the 25th anniversary of Forrest Gump’s wins.January 13, 2020 at 12:35 pm #1203281921
Thompson was also the best actress winner from the previous year so the afterglow effect must have helped her. Was it the only year where two actresses were nominated twice?
Yep, that was the only year. Holly Hunter wasn’t as much of a guaranteed nominee for The Firm as Thompson was for Name I don’t think, since The Firm didn’t make any awards traction and Hunter had a big year with the HBO cheerleader mom movie.January 13, 2020 at 11:56 am #1203281793
When you look at it, it seems that there’s a bigger chance to get one of them. But Foxx and Hunter won everything in sight for their winning performances and Pacino beat RDJ at the Globes so he was the front-runner. An interesting case is Weaver who had tied with Foster for the BA globe and won the supporting one. But she also had Cusack in the category at the Oscars which made it even worse. My theory is that the two performances (Gorillas and Working Girl) being Globe winners only made it harder for the voters to decide which one they would give her. Jessica Lange was in a similar situation (with her Tootsie co-star nominated) but she survived. Maybe because of Streep being the clear frontrunner. I don’t know.
I think you are correct. Streep was such a clear favorite for Sophie’s Choice, but Lange was so good in Frances, I think it was a case where having double nominations helped her (even though I preferred Garr). Weaver could have been too much to choose from. I don’t think she was a threat for Best Actress, but some vote splitting could have happened in BSA between Weaver and Cusack, as well as Weaver and Pfeiffer, who had a big year with Dangerous Liaisons and Married to the Mob. By the way, all 5 nominees were in Best Picture nominees. That’s pretty amazing.
Edited to add: I think Johansson’s noms are somewhere in between Moore’s & Thompson’s for how it will play out. Thompson was coattail in In the Name of the Father and was solid in Remains of the Day but well behind the overwhelming frontrunner. Moore had good support for both and won a lot more awards for Far From Heaven and Johansson did for Marriage Story.January 13, 2020 at 10:49 am #1203281572
When was the last time a double nominee lost both of their acting categories? Since Julianne Moore in 2003?
I took a peek and the last double non-winner was Cate Blanchett for Elizabeth: The Golden Age and I’m Not There and that was 12 years ago. That was also the last double nom overall, winner or not. Only 4 performers have gone home empty handed on Oscar night: Sigourney Weaver, Emma Thompson, Julianne Moore, and Cate Blanchett. I think only Weaver was considered a real front-runner in their categories, correct? Blanchett was a presumptive front-runner for I’m Not There, but not as much as some led themselves to believe.
Edited to add: Not that Cate wasn’t a front-runner, I think that year showed it was a pretty wide open race between Blanchett in a little seen indie and Ryan as a critic’s darling in a higher profile film and Swinton in a best picture nomineeJanuary 13, 2020 at 6:26 am #1203280320
No Lupita for a great performance
No Taron Egerton
No Rocketman in Costume/Sound/etc. I blame Bore-hemian Rhapsody
Tom Hanks’ first nom in almost 20 years
Finally catch up on movies now that I’m not traveling for work all the time
No Lopez is a bit of a surprise
Still don’t get:
Marriage Story love