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August 23, 2019 at 5:19 am #1203035931
Reputation also started off with a 78 and then dropped.
August 22, 2019 at 9:33 pm #1203035647This was surprisingly boring.
August 22, 2019 at 9:31 pm #1203035645Lover will be frontloaded and only be nominated in Pop Vocal Album. As Tokyo Toni has said, can we move the fuck on? Imagine how tired we are.
ReplyAugust 22, 2019 at 5:45 am #1203034732My fucking God, you Swifties acting like anyone actually cares about this shit.
ReplyAugust 20, 2019 at 6:08 pm #1203032595I mean, “Shallow” was released almost on the last day of eligibility last year. A song getting 4 nominations, including the two biggies, that late is unprecedented, I believe. And that is a blessing and a curse. On the one hand, yes, it would have been very fresh in voters’ minds when they cast their final ballots in December-January. But on the other hand, it only had a short window of time to leave an impression on voters while “This Is America” had almost an entire year. This does not even begin to account for the fact that “Shallow” became an even bigger hit months after Grammy ballots were cast.
Well, unlike This is America, Shallow had a whole hit of a movie attached to it that had Oscar buzz galore ever since its release on festival runs in the beginning of September of last year. Everybody knew Gaga was winning the Oscar, the rehearsed and overdramatic speeches, the aggressive campaigning and it was a ballad so it definitely had many advantages that should have put it over the edge in a category like SOTY. Even after Gaga’s 3 wins (and M being shook when he wrongly declared of a sweep), she still lost…..to a heavily political song that wasn’t even lyrically good. It should’ve won given the circumstances, but didn’t. So I’m not really buying the excuses. If they wanted her to have a great night, she would’ve won both no matter what.
ReplyAugust 20, 2019 at 5:48 pm #1203032547Viewing
Not to mention that even with all of that, it’s not like ASIB as a whole was irresistable when it came to winning. What started off as a frontrunner to multiple categories ended as the token Shallow show.
ReplyAugust 20, 2019 at 5:45 pm #1203032540They haven’t really used that logic previously though. Not when they gave Pop Collaboration to Krauss & Plant 2 years in a row; not when they gave Pop Solo to Adele 2 years in a row; not when Lady Antebellum won Country Album 2 years in a row; not when they gave Bruno Mars a second ROTY win for an “Uptown Funk” clone; etc. No one is saying she’s unbeatable – not me, anyway – but the excuses being thrown around to undermine her chances just… aren’t that great.
These comparisons aren’t great. Adele is Adele. 24K Magic was in a category against two rap songs (Story of OJ and Humble), a low-key R&B song (Redbone), and Despacito. They were never gonna reward the first three and Bruno was also SWEEPING the night, so? Lady Antebellum had two major successful albums back to back so it’s no shock why they won again. Their competition was…Taylor Swift? Again, different situations.
ReplyAugust 20, 2019 at 5:38 pm #1203032528But my point is, if it won because of ASIB, and “Joanne” wasn’t even from that movie, then why are some people not taking an actual song from the movie – one that has high sales and streaming numbers, to boot – seriously as a threat to win this year?
We’re not saying it can’t win. What I’m saying is that the logic of it being a lock isn’t consistent. You’re looking at the win without looking at the circumstances around the win. That was last year with no strong frontrunner and when ASIB’s era still had media hype. It didn’t win solely because of ASIB, it also won because the category was filled with Ariana, Post, and Camila Cabello, artists that didn’t have the same built up level of respect in regards to their music or status. One is looked at as a joke when it comes to actually rewarding him, another had too much of a teenboppy image, and the other had a song that wasn’t undeniable in the slightest in spite of her following win in the Pop Album category. It was an exception, not a rule to Gaga.
ReplyAugust 20, 2019 at 5:25 pm #1203032509I do see the point of voters taking a liking to Gaga over Ariana, Billie, or other newer acts simply because she has more of a base than they do (would one count her as a vet?). What I don’t agree with is the notion that Gaga is all of a sudden a Grammy fave. Joanne winning was an anomaly due to an insanely weak category and the ASIB hype lead Gaga to win there. If she was a true favorite of theirs, she would’ve won ROTY and SOTY when ASIB still had somewhat of it’s hype (long past its peak).
You can’t say “Gaga will win Pop Solo again” because of a circumstantial win and then say “Ariana won’t win Pop Album again” for weaker reasons. That’s like saying “Solange unexpectedly won in R&B Performance so if she is nominated there again, she will win because the off-kilter win shows that the voters love her enough to do it again”. I’m not understanding that logic.
ReplyAugust 19, 2019 at 7:35 pm #1203030969To be fair, he actually deserves to win. He’s considered top tier of the new school rappers (right up there with Kendrick Lamar and Drake), yet he doesn’t have the Grammy recognition they do. “Middle Child” deserves to win Best Rap Performance or Song. He will just have to get passed the panel.
Grammys like to play catch up, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Middle Child popped up in ROTY or something like that or even “a lot”. I’m not a fan of J. Cole whatsoever but I wouldn’t be upset with him winning in this terrible year.
ReplyAugust 19, 2019 at 7:32 pm #1203030964OUATIH’s only chances for wins are Supporting Actor and Screenplay, the former being extremely likely. I can see Brad Pitt as a critics fave and the industry finally rewarding him.
ReplyAugust 19, 2019 at 7:10 pm #1203030937Rap has been horrifically tragic this year to the point where J. Cole is competitive for a WIN.
ReplyAugust 18, 2019 at 10:38 am #1203028953So we’re supposed to just guess where things are submitted and assuming everybody in contention submits?
August 18, 2019 at 10:26 am #1203028935Well tbh it’ll stay this way until submissions leak, at least if someone else will post them now that NewCat ain’t voting anymore. Unless you wanna dive into discussing the really niche categories.
Wait what?
August 16, 2019 at 11:08 am #1203026611She’s not getting into any of the GF categories.
