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July 11, 2020 at 12:57 pm #1203581578
Not even the strongest of contenders have hogged 5/6 slots. Mrs. America’s maximum amount will be 4 but I’m predicting 3 actresses.
ReplyJuly 11, 2020 at 12:33 pm #1203581563Such a shame the doja cat hate overshadows her talent :/
“Talent” a kiii
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 7:32 pm #1203580732Yes, she beat everyone in her category and everyone not nominated from every other drama category – that’s why it’s so impressive…
Not saying there isn’t a viable Reese/Kerry argument but that ain’t it.
In a group of 7, like I said. Again, Reese and Kerry were never making TCA as they don’t even need to. She beat Colman and Linney in the category, but I reiterate, she is not competing in the Drama category where there are SIX slots. She is fighting for the last slot. No, she is not above both LFE ladies and no Shira Haas isn’t neither. Up until TCA, the underlying defense I keep noticing from many of you is “I want her to be nominated badly and I will predict her regardless of her being up against two people with better chances than her”.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 4:18 pm #1203580476A group of seven across all drama categories, though. It’s more competitive than her Emmy category.
My argument re: Dever isn’t centered around her TCA nomination, even though that helps her case, it’s more based on my assessment of Unbelievable’s overall place in the race. At least in my estimation, it is a top contender and its actors are by default more likely to get nominated. Not rocket science.
While that’s impressive on her end, she isn’t competing in the same category as they are. The people who didn’t get in, like Olivia Colman, Jennifer Aniston, Laura Linney, Jason Bateman, they’re gonna be fine. They could all still end up winning their categories when it comes to the Emmys, specifically. Kaitlyn Dever is, specifically, in a category of five nominees. Her situation is more unfortunate than theirs. She isn’t competitive for a win so that doesn’t make her undeniable. You already have 3 virtual locks (King, Blanchett, Wever) and she’s going against two heavyweights (Witherspoon and Washington) where they are capital A ACTING in every single episode, literal bait. That’s the difference.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 4:04 pm #1203580463The ones that are going to benefit the most from the acting branch are Watchmen and Mrs. America as they have entire ensembles with supporting actors that are likely to get multiple noms for each. They can easily overperform.
Kerry and/or Reese aren’t missing. They are two prior Emmy nominees who are facing off each other damn near every episode of a late night soap. One or both will make it in. There’s no way both will be snubbed in a group of 5 just because people are overtly hyped by TCA nominations and the hope for Unorthodox somehow splashing. Kaitlyn made TCA but that’s a group of 7. Can she make it in a group of FIVE where King, Blanchett, Wever, Washington, and Witherspoon are all huge name checks who the Emmys have embraced before is the ultimate question.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 1:49 pm #1203580314I wanna try do understand this.
Unbelievable was more acclaimed (and probably more watched) than Little Fires Everywhere.
Meritt Wever and Kaitlyn Dever were both super acclaimed. I don’t remember ever reading someone saying one of those were not good.
Most people acclaimed both Kerry Washington and Reese Whiterspoon, true. However there were a lot of people complaining about either Reese or Kerry’s performance. More complaint for the latter.
So why you can see voters voting for Wever alone and not for Reese/Kerry alone?
I already explained why. Kerry Washington and Reese Witherspoon are in all of the episodes, side by side, of LFE and are so obviously two peas in a pod. Kaitlyn Dever was the center of the first episode of Unbelievable and then the show takes off with Merritt Wever and Toni Collette’s characters. Dever and Wever are not a packaged deal like Witherspoon and Washington. The latter two bounce off of each other.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 1:12 pm #1203580283Regina was competing in the heavily competitive Drama category before Watchmen was deemed as a limited series while Kaitlyn Dever was clearly competing in the Limited Series category in which she lost a spot to Emily Watson, a supporting character in Chernobyl. Keep in mind, SAG loooovvesss young women/little girls (case in point, Joey King in the exact category) so it’s not like they weren’t aware of Dever.
Also, Regina is an established veteran who has 3 Emmy wins in which she didn’t need SAG AT ALL to get them. Hell, she didn’t even SAG for her OSCAR WIN so yes, she is an exception as opposed to a newcomer like Kaitlyn Dever. The fact that she is competitive for a win without Globe/SAG noms is a testament to Regina’s respect (she won for a cancelled Netflix show in which she was the sole nomination!). People! We have this conflicting conversation about her every single time.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 11:55 am #1203580173In my opinion though, Witherspoon will be ahead of Washington due to a more buzzed about performance and buzz from her other shows this year, so I can definitely imagine just her making it in.
However, while I may end up changing this, I have Dever and Haas in over her right now. I don’t think people should underestimate Dever due to that first episode. It’s hard for me to think that her show will get in for everything but her when she starts it off with such a powerful and showy performance.
But then, after the first episode, Dever’s role takes a stepdown and Wever/Collette are the primary perspectives we toggle back and forth to. The pilot episode can definitely help Dever but for now, I’m not so sure.
ReplyJuly 10, 2020 at 11:45 am #1203580157Ehhhh the TCA nom for Dever isn’t enough to convince me of her getting in quite yet. I really can’t see the voters not voting for both LFE ladies.
ReplyJuly 9, 2020 at 2:04 pm #1203578586Watchmen making New Program despite of technical standards shows that passion is there. The way it could win all! Well, Program and Regina are for sure wins.
Kaitlyn Dever and Rhea Seehorn making it over Olivia Colman, Laura Linney and Jennifer Aniston is very telling, chile. Deserved, though!
ReplyJuly 8, 2020 at 2:34 pm #1203574511Well no problem in blocking you too. I was just saying some things about songwriting that I find interesting. God the people on this forum are so rude, keep calm.
You didn’t troll so therefore you didn’t contribute to the bullshit, baby. So far, you’re not who I meant.
ReplyJuly 8, 2020 at 2:24 pm #1203574488Taylor and Gaga stans arguing over shitty songs and clogging the thread? Blocked. Again.
ReplyJuly 8, 2020 at 12:18 pm #1203574109Maybe, but Kanye definitely would’ve given her a run for her money. His album might be the best this decade had to offer alongside TPAB. And unlike that one, it had hit singles and was huge commercially as well.
He still would have lost. MBDTF could have had a 100 on MC and still wouldn’t have beaten Adele. 21 is one of the eras ever and Adele is the type of artist where it is very easy to come to a consensus around her unlike Kanye. Genre bias also would’ve taken over.
ReplyJuly 7, 2020 at 1:16 pm #1203572474Crazy In Love
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