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wolfali wrote:

How so?

Sorry for the late reply, but I think the directing is far superior to the writing on For All Mankind. It’s visually very interesting and not just from a technical perspective. That finale could get a directing nod. I think the writing is more hit and miss and not the strongest part of the series.

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I feel like For All Mankind has a much better shot at Directing than Writing

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I feel like For All Mankind is building buzz slowly. Anecdotally, I’ve seen a few of my facebook friends talk about it and I didn’t see that at all during its first season. But I’m not sure it’ll get strong enough in time for nominations even though I think it’s far more deserving than some other drama contenders. Ultimately though, I think it’ll only get below the line nominations.

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JV wrote:

I think that if Girls5eva happens, it will be just Series + Writing/Directing + Guest for Tina Fey. I haven’t watched it, but it looks like an ensemble work rather than a vehicle for someone in the cast like Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist is a vehicle for Jane Levy.

I completely disagree. If the show gets in for series, writing/directing and guest, that means people are paying attention to the show and if people are paying attention to the show then Goldsberry is going to get in.

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Tyler The Awesome Guy wrote:

And I will never argue that diversity/representation does not matter. How many would they have to bring in to make a change? Last year they awarded quite a few of non-white people for major awards including Chadwick Boseman and Andra Day.

Awarding non-white people is not the same thing. I’m not going to put an exact number on it, that’s really not the point. If the body was diverse as a whole (and all real foreign journalists as wolfali said), the exact numbers wouldn’t matter.

Oh and by the way, making those changes only solves ONE problem for the HFPA. They also need to stop being so shady and corrupt, which has been known for a VERY long time.

That’s why it’s not worth it in my opinion. Let’s get a more reputable awards show that can have the same influence on the awards season.

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Tyler The Awesome Guy wrote:

They might. I don’t know. If they hire the right black people who are likeminded, then by all means they should hire them! I admit I could have worded it better. It’s all about hiring the right people, and it does not matter their skin colour. I apologize.

I feel like I’m arguing with something living in the year 1981. “Likeminded” is EXACTLY the problem. I am not advocating for them to pull some black person off the street and ask them what TV shows or movies they like. But there are plenty of qualified people they could bring in who aren’t white and bringing in just 2 or 3 is not making any sort of wholesale change.

Representation matters. Diverse voices matter. If you claim to be evaluating art on merit and you are coming at it from one viewpoint (or one likeminded perspective as you may put it), then you don’t have the authority to be taken seriously as a body of members.

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Heptapod wrote:

Are there any guest contenders from Hacks? I’m desperate to find a way out of my current ten-slot SNL domination.

If Girls5Eva catches on in the Emmy race, I’m hopeful for some of their guest stars like Tina Fey and Stephen Colbert.

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Tyler The Awesome Guy wrote:

How do you know? What makes you an expert on this? You are not them, you have not met them. Maybe they are all the most qualified people for the job. I agree that it would not hurt for them to hire a couple of minorities into their voting demographic. What if a black person they hired thought that the worst movie of that year deserved to nominated for the Golden Globes?

I hope (pray) this is not your intent but your argument sounds like it’s fine for an 87 member body to not have a black person be part of it because a black person might just screw it up.

In order for diverse voices to be heard, they need to be let in the door. Period. If that’s not happening, changes need to be made.

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Tyler The Awesome Guy wrote:

I am not trying to “make an excuse”, I am trying to show a different side to the argument. I do not know them, but I personally believe that most people are good. I was never provided with any concrete proof that they were racist so I don’t believe it. And it has to be something that is more than words because people can lie or twist the story on the Internet.

Not having a single black member is a problem. Maybe no one member of the group is racist but as a group, there are clearly some racial issues. I saw you defend that above and… yikes to your response… it’s pretty ludicrous to think that 87 white people are all “right for the job” over any black person and even if you buy that argument and it is true that they are all more qualified, then that’s a serious systemic issue that needs to be addressed in major and transformative ways.

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Tyler The Awesome Guy wrote:

Okay but that could’ve been an honest mistake.

Making an excuse for every little thing about the Globes is not a good look.

Sure I’ve enjoyed the broadcast over the years but we’ve always known they’ve been shady and now we have plenty of proof that they are shady, corrupt and, at least to some extent, racist.

I’m glad to see them get their comeuppance. But I would like to see the industry settle on something to become the new “second most important to the Emmys/Oscars” awards and take over as a kickoff. It doesn’t have to be the Globes but I hope something will fill the Globes shoes.

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I don’t think she’ll get nominated but for the record, Dickinson is my favorite performance from Krakowski. I found her super annoying in both 30 Rock and Kimmy Schmidt.

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Harmen Moes wrote:

I think the 5 are fairly well known. Cuoco, Ross, Levy, Janney and Erskine For number 6 are the contenders… * Cristin Milioti – Made for Love (HBO Max) * Hailee Steinfeld – Dickinson (AppleTV+) * Jean Smart – Hacks (HBO Max) * Lena Waithe – Masters of None (Netflix) Who do you think takes last place?

I agree with the poster above that the only locks are Cuoco and Ross. I do think Levy and Janney get in but I don’t think they’re locks, I’m less sure about Erskine because I just don’t know where the Emmys will land on PEN15

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A few that come to mind quickly:

Mad Men – The Suitcase
The Mary Tyler Moore Show – The Lars Affair
Friday Night Lights – Pilot
The Dick Van Dyke Show – Coast to Coast Big Mouth
I Love Lucy – Lucy Does a TV Commercial
The West Wing – In Excelsis Deo

 

 

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I’m a little bit in between. I like to wait until the season is fully out or mostly out but then I watch one a day.

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bellajoe wrote:

THR’s review of Pose makes even less sense after watching the premiere two episodes… did they watch the same show because that was NOT happy. (Unless they saw the full season, I don’t know if FX sends full season screeners pre-premiere though.) Anyway, Billy Porter is winning and MJ will get in.

Full season screeners were sent. But I still think the review was odd.

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