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October 21, 2017 at 12:15 pm #1202244246
Bruno Mars may not make ROTY. TWIL was bigger on pop, r&b, AC, and rhythmic. 24k does share the album name if that makes a difference. Odd that they would do that. He would have easily gotten a pop solo spot too. Maybe he really wants to win in the R&B field so wants voters to focus on that. Skipping pop solo opens up a spot for someone like Kesha.
I still think “Shape of You” gets a SOTY nod and is still a strong contender for a win regardless of what people think of it.October 21, 2017 at 12:07 pm #1202244214
Kendrick Lamar with 8. I don’t see anyone else getting more than that.October 20, 2017 at 5:25 pm #1202243631
“Gorgeous” is the strongest of the new songs and is a return to form. Still, it feels anticlimactic and doesn’t really stand out.October 20, 2017 at 3:26 pm #1202243577
I won’t predict Logic’s song for SOTY. Last Grammys they surprised us with ‘I Took a Pill in Ibiza’ but we have to point that ‘I Took a Pill’ has a message and is a very good song. Logic’s song has only the message (boosted by the video), but is not a good song.
What? I Took A Pill in Ibiza wasn’t good. 7 Years was shit in a can. See You Again got annoying and so did Same Love. 1-800 will get its SOTY nom.
“I took A Pill in Ibiza” was great. The rest of your post is true though. “1-800” is getting in SOTY.October 19, 2017 at 8:05 pm #1202242767
I don’t think Tribe will make it in the General Field. I feel like the BRP will want Kendrick Lamar to sweep. They won’t put in anybody that will split votes away from him.
Kendrick isn’t going to sweep. Even if he wins Album (which I think is unlikely but we’d need to see the final nominees first), he’s not going to beat Sheeran in Record, and he’s certainly not going to win SOTY if he even gets nominated.
I agree he won’t sweep. He may not even win one GF award. But I think the BRP would like him to win, and will ensure no one splits votes for him.October 19, 2017 at 7:48 pm #1202242755
I don’t think Tribe will make it in the General Field. I feel like the BRP will want Kendrick Lamar to sweep. They won’t put in anybody that will split votes away from him.October 19, 2017 at 5:41 pm #1202242715
Man Billboard has a serious hard on for Harry Styles. He’s mentioned all over this article along with Sheeran and Lamar has the biggest picture lol.October 19, 2017 at 5:40 pm #1202242713
Grammys Preview: The Best Bets For The Big Four Awards
by Alan Light October 19, 2017, 2:18pm EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter
It’s becoming a familiar setup: the biggest Grammy Award battle coming down to a face-off between a revered British pop star and R&B/hip-hop royalty. In 2016, those spots were filled by Adele and Beyoncé, ending with the former taking album of the year for 25 and giving a tearfully apologetic acceptance speech in which she said what plenty of Grammy watchers were thinking: that Queen Bey’s politically charged Lemonade, a “monumental,” “soul-baring” and “empowering” statement, deserved the win.
This year, a similar showdown looks likely for album, record and song of the year. In one corner there’s Ed Sheeran, an established Grammy favorite who in 2017 became the first artist ever to have two singles simultaneously debut in the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100. In the other: Kendrick Lamar, whose DAMN. is the most acclaimed album of 2017, and who is widely considered music’s leading voice in our current, contentious sociopolitical climate.
The Sheeran-Lamar subplot may dominate the 60th edition of the Grammys, but it’s not the only one. This year saw Harry Styles, Miley Cyrus and Kesha all breaking away from their teen-pop images with grown-up, well-received albums; JAY-Z and Lady Gaga tackling personal themes; and a new generation of rappers — Migos, Rae Sremmurd and Lil Uzi Vert among them — signaling the next stage of hip-hop’s evolution. Looking across the Big Four categories for the 2017 awards reveals a year full of surprises, disappointments and new beginnings.
ALBUM OF THE YEAR
Sheeran has racked up nominations numbering in the double digits (and in 2016 won song of the year for “Thinking Out Loud”). Lamar has more trophies to his name (seven to Sheeran’s two), but none in the general categories. Regardless, Sheeran’s Divide and Lamar’s DAMN. should be locks for nominations. Joining those likely frontrunners, Lorde’s Melodrama is a solid bet: Though her follow-up to 2013’s Pure Heroine came up a little short commercially, it was considered a daring, winning step forward after her rookie success. JAY-Z’s 4:44 — a thoughtful, confessional album from a true icon — looks like it could nab him long overdue recognition in a category in which he has never been nominated (provided the album’s exclusive TIDAL release didn’t limit its audience too much).
Don’t discount the influence of two of the year’s most powerful artist narratives. Gaga’s intimate Joanne met lukewarm reviews, but it has Mark Ronson’s imprimatur and caps off a year when Gaga won plenty of hearts with a triumphant Super Bowl performance, her revelation of her chronic battle with fibromyalgia and the release of her well-received Netflix documentary, Gaga: Five Foot Two. And with We Got It From Here…Thank You 4 Your Service, A Tribe Called Quest offered a stunning, unexpected comeback recorded with Phife Dawg before his death in 2016 — and, as Q-Tip and crew announced, their final project.
Elsewhere, Harry Styles, inspired by classic rock from Bowie to Badfinger, was a remarkable transformation for the former One Direction-er. The Bruno Marsjuggernaut could well roll on with 24K Magic, as could The Weeknd with Starboy. Miranda Lambert’s powerful double album, The Weight of These Wings, was arguably Nashville’s strongest offering this year. Though Metallica has never been nominated in a general category, its Hardwired… To Self-Destruct was widely seen as a welcome return to form. Among rap’s contenders, Logic’s Everybody and Big Sean’s I Decided were big hits that earned critical notice. As to who might fill the unexpected outsider slot Sturgill Simpson occupied in 2017, Americana favorite Jason Isbell’s The Nashville Sound (the rare indie release to hit No. 1 on the country albums chart) and Father John Misty’s Pure Comedy garnered sufficient support to make both long-shot contenders.
Grammy Watch: Will Kendrick Lamar vs. Ed Sheeran Be This Year’s Adele vs. Beyonce?
RECORD OF THE YEAR
With nearly 5 billion streams and 4 billion video views, Luis Fonsi’s “Despacito” (featuring Daddy Yankee and, on the remix, Justin Bieber) was the year’s biggest sensation. Honoring the first Spanish-language song since “Macarena” to top the Hot 100 — which went on to tie Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men’s “One Sweet Day” for most weeks ever at No. 1 on the chart — would be an ideal opportunity for The Recording Academy to recognize Latin music’s ever-increasing impact on the mainstream. Among the year’s other chart-toppers, Sheeran’s “Shape of You” and Lamar’s “Humble” seem like shoo-ins. At least one of Mars’ two hits, “That’s What I Like” and “24K Magic,” should earn a spot. Styles’ soaring “Sign of the Times” could earn recognition as a strong debut single. And among Nashville voters, Sam Hunt’s “Body Like a Back Road” — which topped the Hot Country Songs chart for a record-shattering 34 weeks (and crossed over to the Hot 100’s top 10) — should get the biggest push in this category.
From there, the year’s biggest singles covered a wide range of styles. The massive success of Rae Sremmurd’s “Black Beatles” and Migos’ “Bad and Boujee” made next-gen Atlanta rap impossible to ignore. “Malibu” epitomized Miley Cyrus’ ’70s Southern California reboot, and The Weeknd delivered two strong tracks in “Starboy” and “I Feel It Coming.” The unlikely (but highly successful) combination of The Chainsmokers and Coldplay for “Something Just Like This” ticks a lot of boxes for voters, while Imagine Dragons’ “Believer” could represent for modern rock. And though “Look What You Made Me Do” was polarizing, never underestimate the power of Taylor Swift — did any other song generate more debate this year?
Grammy Watch: Will ‘Despacito’ Be a Contender — Or Be Shut Out?
SONG OF THE YEAR
Sheeran’s “Shape of You” (written with a team including producer Steve Mac) and Lamar’s “Humble” (credited to Lamar and Mike WiLL Made-It) will likely face off again for the top songwriting honor, and many other record of the year competitors could join them: Styles and a team led by producer Jeff Bhasker for “Sign of the Times”; Mars and crew (including production teams Shampoo Press & Curl and The Stereotypes) for “That’s What I Like” or “24K Magic”; Cyrus and collaborator Oren Yoel for “Malibu”; and Hunt alongside Zach Crowell, Shane McAnally and Josh Osborne for “Body Like a Back Road.”
That cohort’s strongest competition might come from songs with timely (or timeless) messages. Gaga’s raw vulnerability on “Million Reasons” — written with Hillary Lindsey and Ronson, and roundly considered the most solid offering on Joanne — makes it her best chance at a major nomination. Logic’s “1-800-273-8255,” written with Arjun Ivatury and featured vocalists Alessia Cara and Khalid, was an ambitious commentary on suicide prevention that has peaked at No. 3 on the Hot 100.
Other new artists with chances for a nod: James Arthur, whose “Say You Won’t Let Go” (by Arthur, Neil Ormandy and Steve Solomon) was the year’s breakout low-key ballad, and Julia Michaels, whose “Issues,” written with Justin Tranter and producers Benny Blanco and Stargate, introduced her as a major new voice. And yet again, don’t count out Swift — this time for “Better Man,” a song she wrote alone (a possible plus to some authenticity-seeking voters) and then handed off to her friends in Little Big Town.October 19, 2017 at 3:36 pm #1202242670
Currently, my gutsiest GF prediction is that Ed Sheeran will be left out of SOTY and it will leave an open race between Kendrick, Gaga, Logic et al., Childish Gambino, and Kesha (her sole nomination). Maybe that’s wishful thinking, but I think it makes sense. “Shape of You” is a mediocre song and much more generic than his previous singer-songwriter style work. Just because Ed Sheeran has been nominated twice (and won once) in SOTY, does not mean the BRP will immediately name check him for SOTY, especially with the “No Scrubs” issue. Don’t get me wrong, “Shape of You” is the clear front runner for ROTY and Sheeran is a lock for AOTY, but I think the song might be relegated to ROTY like past winners “Uptown Funk,” “Somebody That I Used to Know,” and “Get Lucky.” Then again, submitting “Castle on the Hill” to SOTY instead would change everything.
That’s definitely gutsey. I do disagree though. I think the Academy has already set a precedence with songs like “Single Ladies”, “Formation”, etc. “Shape of You” would fall into that category I would think.
As for the “No Scrubs” issue, they too set a precedence with “Stay With Me”. I remember some people thinking that would affect Sam Smith’s chances but it didn’t.October 18, 2017 at 2:49 pm #1202241876
I’m still thinking the BRP will select on female nominee. Either Lorde or Lady Gaga. Would love Sza but that’s a longshot.October 16, 2017 at 8:02 pm #1202238979
The Blue Ribbon existed before “La Macarena,” though.
But it didn’t go into effect with the GF until 1996. I thought it was because songs like the Macarena because they would of been nominated. The report I read on billboard said it was a major reason that the BRP is still used.
I’ve always read it was due to 1995 AOTY lineup which included Tony Bennet, Eric Clapton, Three TenorsOctober 16, 2017 at 7:33 pm #1202238944
Yeah I’d like the prioritize Bruno Mars and Ed Sheeran since they’re the most unpredictable.
Stuff like Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus don’t really matter as they aren’t getting nominations anyway lol.
Artist like Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga we can all predict where and what they predict.October 16, 2017 at 4:33 pm #1202238739
I think the steaming era will bring a lot of urban/rap songs to #1. The streaming aspect favors those songs over pop.
Its not like it’s impossible to stream those pop songs
True. I guess it’s not really cool to like pop songs. It was OK with radio because you could just defend yourself since you can’t chose what the radio plays. With streaming the choice is yours, so if you’re caught listening to Katy Perry, people know it’s because you wanted to.
Though that hasn’t stopped Taylor Swift and she isn’t particularly cool.October 16, 2017 at 2:59 pm #1202238695
He won’t sweep. Hasn’t there only been 3 sweeps in the last 20 years (Adele x2, Dixie Chicks). I don’t think his year compares to those to be honest.
I think ROTY is more or less guaranteed. SOTY could easily go to Lady Gaga if it’s nominated.
AOTY could easily to Kendrick Lamar or Foo Fighters if they are nominated.
Pop Vocal and Performance are likely but Bruno Mars or Lady Gaga could upset him.
I say he gets Record, Pop Vocal album, and performance, But this would be easier once we find out who he’s up against.