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July 10, 2020 at 10:55 am #1203580085
Given these examples, do you think “Heartless” will be nominated? I’m 100% sure they’ll block since it’s not their type and Abel it’s way more pop now he than was in 2015-16, even though he has credit enough on the genre and some votes. “Reminder” had a similar trajectory. They should submit “Scared to Live” in some category since it’s a safer option, but I doubt.
“Scared to Live” is a pop song so I doubt that would even make it past screening
“Heartless” could go either way
July 10, 2020 at 10:31 am #1203580056Even if Ariana submitted anything in R&B, some of you are assuming that (1) the committee would put her through, (2) that the screening committee would even classify some of those songs as R&B.
The R&B committee routinely rejects pop star submissions unless those artists have genre credibility. Case in point – Bruno Mars was denied nominations with “Our First Time” and “If I Knew” from his first two albums, but got nominated across the board when he actually had hits on urban radio.
Justin Timberlake is another example. “Pusher Love” wasn’t a hit, but he had had urban radio hits for years and had credibility in the genre.
July 8, 2020 at 6:37 am #1203573501True. After “Spirit” (and “You Need to Cal Down”) last year, it seems they reserve one spot for a veteran, it wouldn’t be surprising if they go with “Stupid Love” to name-check Gaga. I just hope she doesn’t do the “Joanne” thing, there’s “Blinding Lights” and “Don’t Start Now” this year, both strong and competitve enough – way bigger than “Havana” and “God is a woman”.
“You Need to Calm Down” was an actual hit single.
Normally, I wouldn’t count Gaga out for a nomination, but since there are so many strong solo hits this year – “Blinding Lights,” “Circles,” “Don’t Start Now,” “Watermelon Sugar,” “Say So,” and “Everything I Wanted,” just to name a few – it’s going to be hard for any non-hit to sneak in this year.
July 8, 2020 at 6:16 am #1203573492The only way Adele would have lost that category is if Kanye had been nominated.
She still would have won.
ReplyJuly 7, 2020 at 2:40 pm #120357271821 is, in my opinion, the only time in the 2010s they gave it to what was clearly the best album nominated, but Golden Hour is my favorite of the decade’s winners, although you could make a strong case for Dirty Computer being deserving.
I’ll go with Kacey though because at least that wasn’t as glaringly obvious as Adele winning.
ReplyJuly 7, 2020 at 2:38 pm #1203572711For the millionth time, Roddy is not eligible for Best New Artist. He’s already a Grammy winner.
July 7, 2020 at 2:37 pm #1203572702Rockstar for Melodic Rap Perf or Rap Perf?
Melodic. The chorus and Roddy’s verse are basically sung.
July 7, 2020 at 2:27 pm #1203572649Pop Solo Performance
Someone Like You
Hello
Truth Hurts
Thinking Out Loud
Joanne
Set Fire to the Rain (Live)
Royals
Shape of You
Happy (Live)(Happy and SFTTR would be ranked higher for their original versions)
Pop Duo/Group Performance
Shallow
Get Lucky
Feel It Still
Stressed Out
Uptown Funk
Somebody That I Used to Know
Body and Soul
Say Something
Old Town RoadPop Vocal Album
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21
When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?
25
Sweetener
1989
Unorthodox Jukebox
÷
In the Lonely Hour
StrongerJuly 7, 2020 at 9:25 am #1203572052Who I would have chosen instead in parenthesis
3.Jay-Z & Linkin Park – Numb/Encore (Soldier)
9.Usher feat. Lil Jon & Ludacris – Yeah! ( Dip It Low)“Numb/Encore” and “Yeah”, sweeties…
ReplyJuly 7, 2020 at 9:23 am #1203572049Yeah!
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Umbrella
Empire State of Mind
Numb/Encore
All of the Lights
Let Me Blow Ya Mind
These Walls
Crazy in Love
Dilemma
Run This Town
Hotline Bling
Holy Grail
My Love
Higher
The Monster
LOYALTY.
No Church in the Wild
American Boy
This Is AmericaJuly 4, 2020 at 6:19 pm #1203567000You can say comercial success all you want but El Camino had impact and success of its own. That album was huge.
Yes, but Babel was bigger. It also had a pop crossover hit unlike El Camino.
ReplyJuly 4, 2020 at 6:16 pm #1203566989The real question is how did Babel win AOTY when it lost its genre category.
Well first of all, they lost Americana Album to an album that wasn’t nominated in AOTY, just like The Suburbs losing Alternative Album, so there’s the argument to be made that Bonnie Raitt (and the Black Keys 2 years earlier) could have been competitive for AOTY wins had they been nominated.
There’s also the possibility that people voting in the Americana categories felt that M&S didn’t belong there and should have been slotted in rock, and/or that they wanted to support an underdog instead of the commercial giants.
ReplyJuly 4, 2020 at 6:13 pm #1203566983Mumford & Sons’ first album was a sleeper smash and Babel was an instant blockbuster. They were huge in the early 2010s. It really wasn’t a surprise win at all.
ReplyJuly 4, 2020 at 6:09 pm #1203566974“Old Town Road” was nominated in 3 tech categories at the VMAs including Best Direction, which it won. Let’s see what this year’s nominations in those categories look like before we start throwing around ideas for mainstream candidates. The Grammys like to look at actual technical achievements for music video nominees, not just rubber-stamp the year’s biggest hits.
June 29, 2020 at 8:29 pm #1203558251Doesnt that work with my example: he literally was the frontrunner back in 2012, yet lost even though at that time he was a seasoned veteran?
No, it doesn’t prove your point, because his past nominations in those mainline categories shows they don’t have a problem with ex-boy band members. Obviously they shut Justin out for other reasons – they wouldn’t randomly decide to shut him out for being a former boy bander when they had already given him nominations in those categories.
And I strongly disagree with the assumption that he was the frontrunner to win AOTY, considering he lost Pop Vocal Album to Bruno Mars (and may not have even been second, since he lost Pop Solo Performance to another nominee in that category), and lost Pop Duo/Group Performance to the eventual AOTY winners.
And speaking of Daft Punk, Random Access Memories was super, super baity with its homage to the ’70s, emphasis on live instrumentation, and regard for music history, not to mention it had crossover appeal to pop, rock, and R&B fans. It was winning with or without JT in that lineup.
