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December 14, 2019 at 9:59 am #1203236036
If only certain voters weren’t so picky of an album because it’s explicit.
It really doesn’t matter. It’s coincidence that explicit music tends to win less. Profanity also tends to be less common in pop and rock which voters gravitate to more.
Let’s not forget that OutKast won AOTY (as have other albums with strong profanity like 21, Jagged Little Pill, and Babel), and “This Is America” and “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” have won in the general field categories.December 13, 2019 at 12:35 pm #1203235214
“Beautiful Ghosts” is probably more likely than Elton.December 13, 2019 at 12:27 pm #1203235188
There were so many songs that they could have nominated instead (and deserved it way more than boyfriend – I say this as an Ariana stan) like for example Dancing With A Stranger, which was way bigger than boyfriend and had a massive airplay and yet they went with boyfriend. While it’s not a complete random nomination since Ariana is a huge name anyways, it’s still a good sign for her imo.
All it proves is that Grammy voters don’t really care about Sam Smith anymore, which we’ve seen from the last two years when his material failed to get nominated.
It doesn’t mean she’s winning anything.December 13, 2019 at 11:42 am #1203235128
Golden Hour was way buzzier than Norman Fucking Rockwell and it also benefitted from narrative. Around last year’s Grammys there was a lot of talk about the lack of female representation on country radio, so naturally the lone female country artist – who herself barely receives airplay – was a natural choice to rally behind, especially in the immediate wake of the previous year’s “step up” fiasco.
Not to mention, Kacey was already a 2x Grammy winner and Golden Hour had recently won AOTY at a major televised award show.
They’re completely different scenarios.
Lana is more comparable to Janelle Monáe and Lorde, who likewise did not get nominations for best albums in their genres.December 13, 2019 at 9:54 am #1203234994
Not with Billie in the mix who had nothing to submit to pop duo.
Exactly. People need to stop bringing up the “Boyfriend” nomination as if it actually changes anything.
The song got strong airplay and peaked around voting anyway, so while it was an unexpected nomination, it really wasn’t random.December 13, 2019 at 8:52 am #1203234933
You all are so severely underestimating Lana. Yeah pop voters love Beyonce, Katy Perry, Dua Lipa, Billie, Ariana etc. These types of pop albums never win AOTY because ONLY pop voters like these albums. Lana lost the pop nomination because she didn’t release a pop album, so the pop voters voted for actual pop albums instead. If she had released an actual pop album, she probably would have gotten the pop nomination but missed the AOTY nomination. So Lana lost the pop voters but she gained everyone else. She has huge and passionate support coming from the entire industry.
Yes, which is why they voted for an African world music album instead.December 12, 2019 at 1:34 pm #1203234090
It’s a dangerous thing.December 12, 2019 at 8:07 am #1203233596
Percentage of the academy’s voting members that are producers and engineers: nearly 40%
Don’t take those Billie nominations for granted.December 11, 2019 at 6:46 am #1203230557
Taylor was going up against “Use Somebody,” “Single Ladies,” and “I Gotta Feeling.” Winning ROTY and SOTY was always going to be an uphill battle.
The only major competition Billie really has in the general field is “Old Town Road” in ROTY.December 10, 2019 at 8:19 pm #1203230103
Why is Vampire Weekend so low in prediction score?
A combination of people here being blinded by the female pop stars in the running, and people slightly overestimating Bon Iver due to the Record of the Year nomination.
Billie, Vampire Weekend, and Bon Iver are the only people I can realistically see winning AOTY. I think that if Billie falters, Vampire Weekend has the edge due to having the more successful album, the better reviewed album, and having a bigger presence on year-end lists.December 10, 2019 at 8:00 pm #1203230089
Grammys have several biases in the AOTY category:
1. Album uses predominantly “real” instruments like guitar, piano, horns, strings, etc. Even 24K Magic, 1984 and Random Access Memories do incorporate real instrumentation.
2. Album makes a modern interpretation of a traditional genre that older voters are familiar with (Fearless and Golden Hour for country, Random Access Memories for Disco and House, 24K Magic for Motown/90’s R&B, The Suburbs, Morning Phase and Babel for rock/indie rock/folk rock, 21 and 25 for Soul and love ballads)
3. Album is NOT a debut album. True of all AOTY winners of the last decade
4. Artist has songwriting credits on the album and has a reputation of being a songwriter. This is true of all AOTY winners of the last decade.
5. Album features songwriting that is emotionally resonant, personal, nostalgic, etc. Bonus points if you are singing passionate love/relationship songs. AND/OR features big feel good anthemic songs that you might here at a wedding reception ie. Bruno Mars 24K Magic/Uptown Funk and Daft Punk Get Lucky.
Lana is clearly the artist that fits in with the last decade of AOTY winners the most.
Even if you’re onto something, Vampire Weekend and Bon Iver are literally right there.