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June 13, 2019 at 10:53 am #1202936237
Omg stop acting like people who hated this last season are only internet trolls. Season 8 (and the show in general) was already called out by the industry for its treatment of women. Hollywood professionals won’t straight up tweet “season 8 is garbage” because they care about their careers and don’t want to have HBO and D&D (because I’m sure a lot of actors want to be in a new Star Wars triology) as enemies but it does not mean they didn’t hate the season as much as random people online did.
Hollywood professionals mostly defended the season, if they said anything. Like you said, the “professionals” calling it garbage came from the SJW angle, which in my view re just as valuable as the internet trolls.June 13, 2019 at 5:58 am #1202935766
The season 8 backlash, still, doesn’t indicate anything about the seventh season. And also, the “biggest backlash in TV history” is directly due to the fact its the most popular TV show in TV history, which might actually help it win since we are talking about professional industry people and not bitter teenage keyboard warriors.
Also, it’s true they spread the wealth more last year, but GoT still win a dazzling 9 wins. The competition was much stiffer than now, and while they still probably lost in Writing and perhaps even directing, GoT is still better than all it’s alternatives if you look at the bigger picture. Again, Twitter teenagers aside.
Dinklage wins and huge love towards him walking around and saying bad jokes will forever remain a mystery, so his win does not count.
This might be the best quote from this stupid rant. Dinklage is a brilliant actor and if you don’t see why you can’t say his win “doesn’t count”. The fact he is holding a record in that category indeed very much countsJune 13, 2019 at 3:30 am #1202935547
Several performers have been disqualified from voting for the upcoming Emmys. Reason: block voting:
Are they talking specifically about Actin categories? The were some of the more diverse last yearJune 13, 2019 at 2:54 am #1202935541
Really? I 100% think that’s what happened last year. GoT was off for a year and while it was decently received it still had some criticism due to the pacing. The show hasn’t been the same since season 6. Say what you want but I firmly believe that people either voted for GoT and the rest split the vote. I think the same will happen this year. What will take its place? What will get enough votes to win? The competition is just not strong enough this year.
Also, last year had a much stronger competition.
GoT’s last season perhaps wasn’t perfect and not exactly what people expected but in my honest opinion it is actually better than any of the other shows competing this year. It’s not like the Crown or Westworld are competing. I hope Academy members will share the same sentiment, besides the huge factor that, as mentioned before, this show changed the landscape of TV forever and it gets extra points for deserving a Best Drama win for it’s final season- legacy considerationsJune 12, 2019 at 2:54 pm #1202935058
The season finale is brilliant!
Paul Giamatti is so damn good in thisJune 12, 2019 at 1:26 pm #1202934889
Let me clarify that…. In not way shape or form i consider Season 8 to be a bad season, it is a phenomenal and remarkable piece of TV. That doesn’t mean that i don’t have any issue with the whole product, I have as i had last year with the six episode. People who never liked the show are being very loud but that’s not completely new… Way too many people has complained about everything without any reason and the best example is episode three because “they couldn’t see anything” it most be the fault of the DP and not of the shitty TV device of some watchers. Some complain about the pace but this is a recurrent complain that goes way back to the pilot episode because some still want the show to be like any boring regular show that has being brought to TV…. some complained about that plots move to fast, well it is the ending there’s no time to take two seasons wandering between King’s Landing and Winterfell, it is not too much to expect that the audience use the brain once in a while to assume that between scenes some time has past (S7 E6 notwithstanding). Another thing is that some people has being complained about some actions from certain character that has being characterized as out of nowhere and only people who watch GoT without seeing it could say that the liberation of King’s Landing come out of nowhere. On this last point I do have a complain and it is that the writers didn’t gave Dany the opportunity of explain herself, also there’s some layers of the character that has been lost for the writers maybe because of the popularity of the show and some PC mentality has taken over HBO and the producers of GoT. The Targaryens are created by GRRM in the mold of the Egyptians and the Dothraky as the Mongols so the actions of these two groups could be perceived as barbaric in some instance but that is the source of inspiration that GRRM choose for his main character and when Daenerys said that she would waste armies and turn cities to dust she wasn’t bluffing, it was her nature and that doesn’t turn her into a war criminal, GoT is supposed to be a medieval story and in medieval times the defeated armies were destroyed and the cities wiped out of the face of the earth, heck even the Bible describe the destruction of Canaan by the good guys. Daenerys did nothing wrong. Another issue I have is that three times in the seasons finale is said that the People (and one fan service character) don’t get to choose but it is only bad when Dany said?. But to the point, I think that not only is Game of Thrones going to win Drama Series but it is a deserving winner…I love Bodyguard and Succession and I think are the only too worthy contenders but I don’t believe any of those is winning…Game of Thrones has some issues with some moments in the writing department but that don’t get to annulled the overall story, it is still the best directed program in TV, it is a spectacle, it is a monumental achievement of entertainment and from make up to acting, to set design to visual effects is an unimpeachable product.
Well done!!June 12, 2019 at 12:26 pm #1202934813
How come Cherry Jones is first in Prediction center for Guest actress? I hope we are not getting this kind of anti-climax for the second year in a rowJune 12, 2019 at 7:48 am #1202934429
I feel like Emmy voters, many of them, are fans of the show. Especially after they won last year. But I see what you are saying.
There is a difference though between somebody sitting on his laptop signing petitions to people who’ve done television and it’s their profession and know what was involved in creating such a season. I really hope they’ll pull throughJune 11, 2019 at 1:13 pm #1202933211
Okay, so GoT only submitting the finale for their Emmy Writing submission is a disgrace. They are definitely losing writing. Why they didn’t submit episode 2 or 3 is beyond me. Just that one submission. Poor Bryan Cogman.
Some bored dude on Twitter measured the words-per-minute ratio of each episode in GoT and the Long Night had the lowest ratio, like by far. It’s hardly surprising, but I think theoretically it would have been harder for them to win for this one than on the finale.
Also, Academy loves acknowledging series finales. And in my personal point of view, its a very good script and a great submission.
I’m not saying they are winning (they are probably not actually) but I’d say it’s the best option they could have sent, considering the entire backlash of the season is targeted specifically on them and no other option would have fared better. At least this has the series-finale-facotrJune 11, 2019 at 9:08 am #1202932897
Succession will win Casting and probably Directing too.
I get this feeling too, but I still try to stay optimistic for Miguel. He absolutely deserves it and regardless of what o personally think of the episode, I don’t think it’s fair he’ll “suffer” because of the other aspects of itJune 11, 2019 at 8:27 am #1202932793
I don’t think the backlash of GoT will affect it’s Creative Arts chances. At least I hope so.
Even the most petition-signing-juvenile haters like to always say the don’t have a problem with the crew of GoT but specifically with D&D. And fanboy things aside, I don’t think there is something that compares to it inVisual Effects, costume design, production design etc.
The interesting thing will be to see if it wins casting, since there was not a single new cast member this season yet it seems that whoever wins Directing also wins casting in the last decade, and I’d like to think Sapochnik is still some sort of a frontrunner in that category.June 10, 2019 at 2:09 pm #1202931742
Ramin Djawadi is literally the most important win of the night!!June 10, 2019 at 11:31 am #1202931347
Wow, seems like HBO learned from last year’s mistake and didn’t over-submit in the technical categories to avoid splitting.
Fingers crossed for D&D much deserving Writing and Directing nominations. I wouldn’t mind if they dropped Nutter this year.June 9, 2019 at 10:40 am #1202929484
Tomorrow the submitions are our?June 7, 2019 at 7:38 am #1202927045
I don’t know, when none of the contenders is a returning series you can’t really know how the Academy reacts, it’s like every few months people think another show is a lock to win this.
My personal vote if I had one would be Sharp Objects (even though I know this one particularly has one of the lower chances among the nominees), but I’m all in for HBO sweeping all 3 major awards. Next year will be much more challenging for them.