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September 18, 2019 at 8:38 am #1203084257
I think Eileen was right when she said that, essentially, Kristen isn’t a sustainable full-time character in the way she should be written. That’s not to say there aren’t ways of keeping her around, but the current team is making her even less sustainable full-time. (You either have to accept Kristen as extreme and thus intermittent or smooth her out and let her stick around in a less out there format.) I’d like it if they could find a way to reasonably and believably mellow Kristen out and have her and Brady be together, but I absolutely cannot see that happening with Haiduk.September 17, 2019 at 8:14 am #1203082171
Yeah, I think the reasons that Xander seems to be resonating a lot with people is partly because of Paul Telfer’s natural charm and obvious good looks but also partly that he’s got a pretty classic soap arc — he was a heartless loner who did a bunch of terrible things for his own gain and now he’s actually connected with people who make him want to be a better person. Why don’t more people have something interesting like that going on? It makes for more compelling scenes with people he cares about now, people who still expect him to be the same villain he was before, and people who feel wronged by him.
DramaKing, I totally agree with you about Jack and Eve and Will and Sonny. It’s amazing that the show thought people would root for Jack and Jennifer to be together given the way he’s behaved, and kind of astounding how little rooting value they’ve given Eve. She did try to get Rolfe’s diary back to help Will out, at some minor risk to her position at the time, but she’s been a terror since then. It’s hard to stomach characters who respond to the death or near-death of those around them with a total lack of concern, like Eve hearing that Kate was fighting for her life and deciding that was her opportunity to make a play for DiMera CEO. (Also, the number of people trying to be the CEO of something on this show is ABSURD. These business stories rarely go any deeper than just talking about who’s in charge and us being told whether they’re doing a good or bad job, which is not compelling as a story hook.)
Sonny and Will have become not just boring but also baffoonish. They take forever to figure out what’s going on and then talk about it like they’re clever — like it should have taken them maybe two seconds to realize that Vivian had shot Kate. The show seems to want to fold them into the crowd that’s a little older than them, but I don’t know why, since the show clearly needs some younger people. Maybe once Chad and Abigail get back they’ll also start writing them as connected to that group along with Ben, Ciara, and Gabi.
Also, I don’t think Eric Martsolf gets enough credit for how much he commits to Brady and all of his crap. The stuff he has to pull off feels insulting and ridiculous a lot of the time, but he does a great job.September 16, 2019 at 9:19 am #1203080200
I’m actually mostly liking Robin Strasser’s Vivian. I stand by what I’d said previously, that Vivian really isn’t a character they should have killed and then resurrected and recast rather than just writing her off or, once dead-ish, letting her stay off canvas. (Vivian being held in the same condo or whatever with Nicole and Holly doesn’t even make sense.) But I think the writing for the character has picked up well on where it had left off (not my favorite version of Vivian, but not an inconsistent one either). Strasser’s being a little more fanciful with her pronunciations (though certainly Louise Sorel’s Viv would slip into a French accent any opportunity she got). And the look is different, but that’s probably better than the show trying to fit Stasser into Sorel’s mold. I also appreciate that Vivian didn’t intentionally bury Kate alive, though she should have done a better job of making sure she was dead if that was her intention. It did give Kate a badass moment of dragging herself, dirt-covered and near death, into the hospital (much more dramatic than GH’s Andre doing a similar thing off camera). I still haven’t seen the last few episodes, so I don’t know what else Vivian might get up to, but again, after what they’ve written for her last two stints, they didn’t need to bring her back in the first place. I would have been fine with Robin Strasser being someone else, like maybe Stefan’s adoptive mother, because it’s not like we needed someone to show up and shoot Kate.
I am still a few episodes behind, but the show feels like such a mess. You make a great point, Tony Ruiz, about the lack of communication, or I guess logical connection, between these characters. For me the best recent example was Eric immediately insisting that Kristen, a woman whose go-to activity in her spare time is to try to kill his mother, be freed from jail and given immunity in exchange for Nicole’s location, without considering any other options (like the police maybe investigating for five minutes) or feeling torn about what she might do. This writing regime seems to have really lost touch with these characters, who they are, what they care about, what their general functions are, etc. It is incredibly frustrating to watch. One of the things that made the Tomlin/Whitesell era so good, in my opinion, was how well drawn the characters were and how connected they were with each other. So much of what happens now is just in service of writing a story that doesn’t make sense.
I don’t know if others feel this way, but Eric has been completely insufferable since Kristen was unmasked and he started looking for Nicole. I have so little interest in Eric and Nicole being together, which makes it all the more annoying when Eric is treating Sarah like garbage or suddenly able to beat up a beefy guard or pretending to be a police officer. Can’t stand it. The saving grace of this story right now is Xander, whose (somewhat baffling) affection for Sarah is the only interesting or enjoyable component here. I would love it if Eric and Nicole got together and then Eric quickly realized, as Nicole does what she typically does and dips into being scheming, manipulative and selfish, that he’s been chasing a fantasy of a person and they don’t belong together.
I heard the rumor about the time jump, which could be good but also sounds pretty desperate. Now, if they wanted to use this time jump to eliminate their six/seven-month gap between filming and airing, that would be great. But I doubt that’s happening. Also, it seems like Brandon Barash is back at the show filming, so that’s something.September 12, 2019 at 4:49 pm #1203071840
I do remember the clip that youngsoapfan is talking about, and I also remember seeing somewhere that it was part of Hunley’s Emmy submission the year she won. I was always under the general impression that she edged out the competition largely because there was comedy in her reel that set her apart. (She was nominated that same year for a Soap Opera Digest award for best comic relief performer.) I think it also helped that she must have been on her way to breaking into primetime by then, since she started on Dynasty the same year she won the Emmy. The Daytime Emmys voters tend of enjoy rewarding actors they think will make a splash outside of daytime, or at least that’s my impression.
I did really enjoy when Anna returned as EJ’s co-conspirator in Sydney’s kidnapping. That was an excellent twist. I love Anna as a character, and I love Hunley’s portrayal of her, though I’d welcome her getting material that was less comical and more rooted in a more serious plot. The character is usually written with so little to do other than obsess over Tony — even when she was back on last year and sleeping with Roman, the storyline became about hating Andre because he didn’t compare to Tony.September 12, 2019 at 4:28 pm #1203071802
Most of the people I would have thought of are either already on the list or already suggested by others. But I’ll list a few I think deserve consideration:
Victoria Wyndham — others have already talked about her, but her portrayal of Rachel on AW is extremely iconic
Sarah Michelle Gellar — yes, she was only on AMC for a couple of years, so low on quantity, but the work was highly praised and really impactful
Rebecca Budig — her Greenlee Smythe was THE reason I was watching AMC in the early 2000s, and her pairing with Josh Duhamel’s Leo was incredibly popular and really transcendent for both their characters
Judi Evans — she won an Emmy on GL and has been fantastic on DAYS when given really any material, but truly her work as Paulina on AW is what puts her on the list. Incredibly memorable and probably for me the most iconic actress on that show in the mid-to-late 90sSeptember 12, 2019 at 3:21 pm #1203071654
I was away for a few weeks and am still catching up on both GH and DAYS, but since this thread hasn’t had any new comments in weeks (eek), I can jump right in.
Other than having some of these stories dragging out for a ridiculously long time, I think the show has at least done a decent job of balancing the characters in terms of screen time. People like Kevin and Laura were on really heavily at the start of the year, then it was a lot of people in the Chase/Will/Shiloh area, and now it seems like most things are revolving around Franco and him thinking he’s Drew. While I think Roger Howarth did a good job in the scenes where Franco rescues Cam and takes his place with the memory transfer, I haven’t been impressed since then. Mostly Howarth just seems to me to be playing NotFranco. I don’t feel any connection to Drew, and the way the character is being both written and played feel really remote from what we know about him, including the weird accent Howarth has thrown into the mix.
Overall, I’m enjoying the show enough, but I kind of wish they were writing all different stories. No more Shiloh’s reign of terror. More Chase/Willow/Michael scenes. More Lisa LoCicero, doing whatever. Less discussion about memory transfer. Less peril and heartache for Joss/Cam/Dev/Trina and more fun. I’m loving having Mac on more, and would love more of Dustin, which I’m hopeful we’ll get, since school is starting back up. Watros’s Nina has been a bust, and I would do without that character hanging around. Better story for Hayden — it seems like the show has several options they’ve been not using in favor of this business with Jax. Maybe just less of Alexis in any love story right now? I’d be fine with her and Dr. Byrne being together, I think, but I’m tired of watching this kindling attempt to catch fire, and as terrible as some of what he did was, it would be much more interesting if she were getting involved with Julian again. (I consider that stuff with trying to kill her to be a terrible decision on the part of the writers and not something he should be held accountable for forever. It has so little connection to the character now or shortly before all that happened.)
The show has made, I think, extremely poor decisions in terms of characters/actors leaving the show and how they handle it. It seems like their favorite option is to have the character leave for something where they’d be back in a few weeks, and then having something weird happen so they just don’t come back (Drew, Dante, possibly Stella). They recast Nina, when it’s clear now that they had plenty of time and could have just written her off. They recast TJ with an actor who feels jarring as Molly’s boyfriend or Jordan’s son. They only recent departure I think they did well was Valerie. They got a recast to play out the rest of a story that really didn’t center on her, and then they just sidelined her.
Hopefully I’m liking the storylines a little better by the time I get current. (Seems unlikely, but I can hope.)August 18, 2019 at 10:38 pm #1203029429
^^^Whoa, I didn’t realize that! I love that.
To me, the interesting thing about the Franco story is that this is the first time it’s really threatening the existence of a character who seems to matter somewhat. Drew has always felt very, very expendable. Even when he was supposed to be Jason, it’s never felt like it mattered all that much what happened with his memories. Steve Burton came back and made Drew even more marginal as a character. But now that Drew’s memories have overwritten Franco’s entire personality, it feels like all the issues they’ve been dealing with since Drew showed up will have to be resolved.
I don’t think the show has quite lived up to the promise of Hayden’s initial return appearance. I could watch Rebecca Budig all day, and any Hayden/Finn scene is a stark reminder of how much better these characters work as a pair than Finn does with Anna, but everything surrounding what is ostensibly her primary goal for being back in Port Charles doesn’t really work.
And I tend to agree — I don’t want Alexis back with Julian either, but that seems to be the unending, undeniable pull for the two of them, and especially for herAugust 18, 2019 at 10:25 pm #1203029416
I keep chuckling at the whole sequence where Ciara and Ben hide under the bed while Kate tries to convince “Nicole” to join forces with her against Kristen. Particularly, when Ben tells Kate that they’re on assignment from Stefan, she asks, “Oh really? Stefan assigned you and your girlfriend to be under Nicole’s bed?” I’m not sure why it was so funny, but it made me laugh almost as much as the line a few months ago where Claire claimed to have taken the “express ferry” to Smith Island, hilarious nonsense.
I’m excited for Robin Strasser to start, and to see her take on Vivian. DAYS better start moving those background photos of Louise Sorel out of the DiMera Mansion set! I’m also excited for what looks to be an exciting party for Marlena and John this week.August 16, 2019 at 9:44 am #1203026499
I like the continuing thread of the softball league, which is adding some humor and levity to the lives of some of these tortured characters. Also, anything that gets Mark Lawson back on screen is a plus.
It is disappointing that Hayden keeps getting caught snooping around Wyndamere. I would think that someone so skilled in deception would be better at sneaking through the vast mansion where she used to live.
Also, it does my heart good to see this outpouring of sadness over Julian’s decision to leave town. What a nice change of pace to see people in scenes with Julian generally being nice to him and wanting him to stick around!August 16, 2019 at 9:25 am #1203026471
Yes, I agree with all three of these points: It was great seeing Lucas Adams in his boxers; it was great seeing Melinda back, and she really should be on more often; and it was great seeing Adrienne and watching her get in Eve’s face a little. I’m glad Melinda is back to being the DA, which is really a good position for her. It’s kind of ridiculous that Jack would appoint her, or that she would work for him, but at least the scene where she takes the job back was funny. And while it really annoys me that Justin is representing Eve in this baseless case of hers — the audacity to sue someone for wrongful termination as police commissioner when you were not only totally unqualified for the job but also committing actual crimes while in office, not to mention her half-hearted and fully disgusting rape accusation against Jack that she’s now retracted — I’ll be fine with it if it means something for Adrienne to do or even Eve acting like a human being and possibly rekindling her interest in Justin.
In other positive observations, this Marlena/John anniversary party business is pretty funny, and I think will be a fun event. With that, the impending story shifts that must be coming up, and having Anna back (what a hoot she is — I cackled when Anna told Tony that he was too late and she was going to marry Roman), I am hopeful the show is turning and corner and going to produce a better fall.August 14, 2019 at 5:05 pm #1203024187
I’m still a few episodes behind, but I thought they’d said last week or the week before that Shiloh was trying to get those memories accessed because Drew knew where his huge stash of money was. Of course, it still doesn’t make sense, because why would Drew tell him that rather than getting him arrested for yet another crime. Shiloh should be so done right now, but he’s still acting like he has cards to play. William Lipton did a great job in his scenes over the course of the episodes with the memory transfers. I thought Roger Howarth vacillated between really good and slightly over the top, though the situation was so over the top that it’s hard to fault him for it.August 14, 2019 at 4:53 pm #1203024171
I remember that Melissa Reeves Chick-Fil-A kerfuffle. I didn’t realize she and her family were so religious, and I was absolutely shocked when she tweeted about having just had Chick-Fil-A on the day of a boycott. Crystal Chappell came to her defense, and it was sort of implied that she didn’t fully realize the implications of what she was saying/doing, but I think her response was just to flee Twitter. While the whole thing was disappointing, I still like her a lot as an actress and love the character of Jennifer. It hadn’t occurred to me that she might be the reason Will and Jennifer don’t have scenes together, but it’s possible. Then again, Will and Sonny are two popular characters who are on maybe once a week now, so who knows what’s going on.
Watching Monday’s show, with Kristen being an absolute terror to Tony, it was striking how the writers don’t think they need to make Kristen even slightly rootable or sympathetic. She can’t even be nice to Tony or Stefan (who, by the way, hid her from the police on her last visit to town just because they’re family and she asked). It’s truly appalling. I’m sticking with my hope that they eventually — down the line when they can coax Eileen Davidson back — reveal that at some point an obsessed doppelganger took Kristen’s place and locked her away somewhere. Maybe it’s a revenge-driven Penelope. It would have to go at least as far back as Stacy Haiduk’s tenure, but I’m willing to go as far back as Kristen stealing baby Tate from Theresa’s womb so she could carry/give birth to him.August 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm #1203022744
Also, it’s very weird that Will and Jennifer, who is not only his aunt but also his boss at the newspaper, never seem to have a conversation and are never in scenes together. It’s just odd.August 13, 2019 at 5:47 pm #1203022737
The Daytime Emmys continue to be a mess!
I don’t love the idea of combining the male and female younger categories, but it’s definitely preferable to me than just having the younger actors compete in supporting or lead. It’s pretty clear to me after listening to many actors discuss their category placement that much of the industry, and certainly many of the actors who judge the Emmys, consider category placement to be much more a matter of historical connection to the show and years of experience in the industry than screentime during the eligibility period or strength of the work. Most younger actors would have no shot at cracking those categories regardless of how much airtime they have or how strong the work is.
I also don’t think it’s a particularly fair comparison between the combined categories at the Grammys and a combined younger performer category at the Daytime Emmys, primarily because an artist who puts out an album during the eligibility period can get nominated for a bunch of different awards, but an actor on one soap all year only has one shot. It feels less fair to me.August 13, 2019 at 5:27 pm #1203022716
Everyone makes some great points, and I will echo what Freeman said: Great to have your voice in the forums again, robbalto!
I don’t know which is a more damning reason for Kristen not really working — the character now just being a psychotic murderess with astoundingly muddled goals or Stacy Haiduk just not being able to give the role the same life that Eileen Davidson always did. There are a couple dozen reasons after that, but those feel like the big ones. It is also pretty astounding that Kristen is on, either as herself or Nicole, almost every day, and Marlena and John are completely uninvolved and basically off screen. I like that Kristen has centered her romantic attention on Brady rather than John at this point, but the thing that would most believably send Kristen into a murderous rage is having to deal with Marlena, and the show isn’t even using that.
The writers really don’t seem to care that much about things making any sense — even the outlandish and ridiculous stories should make some sense by their own standards — and also don’t seem to care much about getting the details right. The other day, Gabi said that Stefan and his mother framed her for murder, which is just plain incorrect. They had an episode last week where half the tension was that Kristen would get caught in public without her disguise (though I don’t think they gave any reason why she even left without putting it on), and then she shows up back at the room where Brady is with Tony, a moment that seemed like it should have been tense and suspenseful, but was, without explanation, already back to being in the Nicole mask and wig. This is the kind of thing that’s driving me batty about the show and that keeps happening every episode. I think the Kristen story is the biggest victim of this because it doesn’t make sense on any level. Why is Kristen trying to run DiMera, a company she’s never cared much about? And if she did want to run DiMera, why didn’t she do even one hour of work when she convinced Stefan to hire her, as Nicole, to run Basic Black? And why would any of them have thought they should have a joint launch party for Basic Black, a luxury brand that was being resurrected, and Gabi Chic, a bargain lifestyle brand that already exists and is apparently thriving? It’s so many things. Maybe DAYS should hire a few more writers and then rotate them in and out more, so they don’t get as burned out? I think we’re really feeling the absence of Sheri Anderson, who seemed to be keeping things more steady and more rooted in the history and traditions of the show. As has been the case with his work at other shows, Ron C is great at digging into history, but generally uses it as fodder to serve plots that don’t really honor and respect that history. Look at what’s happening with Jennifer and Jack.
Anyway, at this point, I’m here all day for Gabi/Stefan stuff and Ciara/Ben stuff. I also am in the minority in liking Sarah, but that’s really all Linsey Godfrey, who I just find charming, even though there’s no character reason for Eric or Xander to be so taken with Sarah. Maybe with Rex gone, Sarah will develop more character depth, but I doubt it. I was happy when Eric and Sarah got together, even though it was Eric just doing almost the exact thing he kept swearing up and down he would do by once again sleeping with his brother’s romantic partner and figuring they’d just tell him about it afterwards, because I thought Eric could be less broody and moody for a while, but that seems not to be the case.
Despite all this, I’m still finding the show mostly entertaining, but I wish it would get back to being really good.