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July 24, 2019 at 1:45 pm #1202994274
It seems like critics all decided to hate on this show ever since the article about Andrea Arnold came out. I mean it displeased me a lot aswell, but they are acting like the whole season is trash ever since while they gave pretty great reviews to the first 3 episodes 2 months ago.
The same thing happens frequently with relatively worse seasons after a critically acclaimed season. The first few episodes seemed promising, so the critics gave great reviews (because they expect the season will be the same quality as the previous season). Then, as they continue on, they realize that the season is actually a mess, so they review the episodes to reflect that. The same exact thing happened just a few months ago with the second season of Killing Eve.
It’s easier to write beginnings than endings.July 24, 2019 at 11:22 am #1202994066
Most people who voted for Thompson probably haven’t even watched King Lear (and I wouldn’t have put Thompson in my top six), but that is symptomatic of not just the taste of this community overall but also the overwhelming number of categories in television awards that have resulted in the number of worthy contenders being in the single digits for some categories.July 24, 2019 at 11:04 am #1202994039
Why are people up in arms about Emma Thompson’s nomination? She was very good in King Lear, and it’s a weak category.July 23, 2019 at 12:16 pm #1202991949
These are the number of lines each character said in each season of Big Little Lies. For the second season, I manually counted the number of lines each character said. A line counts as anything that can be spelled that a character says before they are interrupted by another character or a scene change. I did not count Max’s or Josh’s lines because I can’t tell them apart.
For the first season, I pulled the data from the season’s teleplays that were submitted to the Emmys in 2017, so it is not as accurate as the second season data, though I tried to make it as accurate as possible.
Season 2 Top 10:
Celeste Wright – 395 (most lines in 205, 206, 207)
Madeline Mackenzie – 334 (most lines in 201, 202, 203)
Renata Klein – 251 (most lines in 204)
Mary Louise Wright – 246
Bonnie Carlson – 171
Jane Chapman – 169
Ed Mackenzie – 114
Gordon Klein – 79
Nathan Carlson – 64
Corey Brockfield – 56
Most Lines in a Season 2 Episode: Madeline with 93 lines in episode 201
Season 1 Top 10 (according to scripts):
Madeline Mackenzie – 501
Celeste Wright – 304
Jane Chapman – 244
Perry Wright – 159
Ed Mackenzie – 145
Renata Klein – 108
Nathan Carlson – 94
Abigail Carlson – 85
Ziggie Chapman – 76
Bonnie Carlson – 65July 1, 2019 at 2:23 pm #1202958169
Since we are at the half-way point of the second season and some people are talking about category placement, I thought I would share my data for the number of lines each character said in the first four episodes. I do this for shows and films with ambiguously leading and supporting actors to see how they really should be categorized for awards.
A line counts as anything that can be spelled that a character says before they are interrupted by another character or a scene change.
The Main Women:
Madeline Mackenzie – 260 (most lines in 201, 202, 203)
Celeste Wright – 191
Mary Louise Wright – 165
Renata Klein – 160 (most lines in 204)
Jane Chapman – 124
Bonnie Carlson – 110
Their Love Interests:
Ed Mackenzie – 70
Gordon Klein – 57
Nathan Carlson – 51
Corey Brockfield – 37
Other Characters with At Least 30 Lines:
Dr. Amanda Reisman – 44
Abigail Carlson – 35
Elizabeth Carlson – 30
At this time, Reese Witherspoon and Nicole Kidman should probably be the only ones considered as leads.
Edit: I do not log Max’s and Josh’s lines because I can’t tell them apart, but they probably have the most screen time out of the second graders.May 9, 2019 at 7:06 pm #1202887376
“From Academy Award® nominee Ava DuVernay”
“From Emmy Award® winner Ava DuVernay”
“From Ava DuVernay, the director of Selma and 13th”
“From Ava DuVernay, director of the 2017 Emmy® winner for Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special”
I think they made the right choice.April 23, 2019 at 10:58 pm #1202864192
Does anyone else feel like this Emmy season has been a bit more boring than usual? Most of the contending shows are already over and done with, leaving us only with Veep, Barry, Game of Thrones, Killing Eve, and a hand full of limited series that may or may not pan out.April 18, 2019 at 8:10 pm #1202858472
I can’t see Adlon missing for the most acclaimed season of Better Things while Janney and Tomlin stay in.
Despite the critical reviews, this season of Better Things has noticeably less hype than season two. Adlon can easily miss this year.April 18, 2019 at 11:33 am #1202858119
I have read 10 reviews of Hadestown and they have all been raves; if there are negative or mixed reviews I haven’t seen them yet. I am confident that it will win the Tony for Best Musical.April 18, 2019 at 11:20 am #1202858093
Margo Martindale in episode six – so little time, and so much scenery to chew.April 16, 2019 at 11:46 am #1202855627
It feels like this show’s going the Homeland trajectory.
The writing captures the essence of season one, but it’s clearly an emulation and not the real deal. One sequence in the second episode had almost back-to-back-to-back “humorous awkward moments” between Eve and other characters that were more seamlessly weaved into the episodes in season one and now just seem like the writers are grasping for laughs.
What substantial changes are there in the Eve-Villanelle dynamic? In season one, Eve was obsessed with finding Villanelle, and Villanelle was leading her on. Then it all boiled over in the season finale, until the plot reset, and, now, we are exactly where we started, with Eve, again, obsessed with finding Villanelle and Villanelle, again, leading her on.
This season is going to be a sophomore slump. It may still end up being a good season of television, like Homeland season two, but, by the time the third season comes, this show will be a helpless waste that would either need to reinvent itself or die a disappointing death.
Side note: The Villanelle plots have become vastly more interesting than the Eve plots (but not necessarily better written). That, coupled with the fact that Sandra Oh really is just playing Cristina Yang, will make Oh’s future Emmy win very unfortunate.
but Lesley Manville became an Oscar nominee for being a bit stern while buttering toast and there are similar vibes here, so you might be tickled if you are one of those people who keeps floating her as an Emmy contender.
Still more deserving than Allison Janney.April 14, 2019 at 1:12 pm #1202852656
Lena Waithe’s performance in Master of None was a travesty, so I don’t think this bodes well for the show. The one episode she co-wrote, “Thanksgiving,” was excellent, however.