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July 28, 2020 at 8:08 am #1203607169
Well I’m going back into hibernation again. This has been fun. I cannot express my love for this album enough, Mirrorball is perfection.
Billboard has a article arguing against Taylor being nominated again but said it’s possible and that a black artist should win (which I think is completely insane) and that Taylor would pose a risk at winning if nominated, which is why she hasn’t been nominated lately to avoid, completely possible and understandable seeing as Reputation and Lover were ok.
folklore has the ability to get a lot of support with the people involved and appeasing to multiple bases. But Taylor being a white woman who would be 31 at the time would be the 3rd act to win three times with Frank Sinatra and Stevie Wonder.
So, this is an odd situation. Do you or don’t you nominate a album that would be nominated had the artist not been successful before? Do you judge the material or do you judge the acts past? Do you vote vote for the current climate and vote someone based on their race? Taylor would have 3 wins to Beyoncé’s 0 is their argument which is completely fair, Lemonade should have won but Adele has probably the biggest bias working her.
This year will be an interesting year in music, regardless. This album will be forever be regarded as her best work and I’m down with that.
Have fun with the debates, I’m moving Saturday to Minneapolis to start my residency and I don’t think I’ll have time to engage. This was fun for a hot minute!
ReplyJuly 26, 2020 at 8:41 am #1203603609…..I just want Taylor to win Song of the Year. Everyone’s arguing for Album of the Year but Taylor has almost set the records for most nominations for Record and Song of the Year nominations. I would bet she would want to win that award more. She’s definitely owed Record and Song of the year. This would be an excellent album to win both with a weird indie song.
Song of the year most nominations is 6, Taylor has 4 (most for a woman).
You belong with me
Shake it off
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Lover (solo)Record of the year most nominations is 7, Taylor has 4 (tied for most solo nominations for a female).
You belong with me
We are never ever getting back together
Shake it off
Blank SpaceJuly 25, 2020 at 5:25 pm #1203602845I would honestly like to know what Taylor would have to do to get half of y’all to admit she’s good.
Fearless
1989
folkloreAll kinda exceeded expectations. I mean she now has the “acclaim” of Beyoncé and the success of Adele. And it’s still not enough “that score will go down” which is more than likely right, but it’s at it’s lowest gonna be 88.
She’s gonna have multiple hits in the top 10, she’s blowing records up with a critical acclaimed album which I don’t ever recall happening.
Keep in mind this album was made in less than 4 months, was released a day after it was announced, and its freaking blowing up commercially and critically.
She’s the first woman to win AotY twice, third woman to be nominated after winning, and is the most nominated female songwriter for SotY.
This isn’t some weird artist or a popular artist not yet recognized by the Grammys. This is Taylor Swift, 10 time grammy winner and she just released the album of her career.
Just say “wow” for a second. I mean I’m a OG huge Taylor Swift fan, but I honestly thought she was on her way down. She apparently isn’t ready to go just yet, this is the album of 2020 even if it’s just this week.
July 25, 2020 at 5:02 pm #1203602772Labels choose what genre to list under, so that is of no importance
Pretty sure everyone is saying this isn’t a pop album.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 5:00 pm #1203602766You’re forgetting the frontrunner…
How is he the front runner? Like hasn’t all 1D members been ignored completely?
July 25, 2020 at 4:51 pm #1203602729Just noting that Apple Music doesn’t have folklore as a pop album. It’s in alternate and she has 7 of the top 10 of all songs. It won’t last long but still. Color me surprised.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 1:38 pm #1203602391reddeserved a Grammy
All too well deserved to be a single. I get it’s too long, but no one would complain.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 1:34 pm #1203602380My Taylor Trinity
1. Red
2. folklore
3. 1989I would have
1)folklore
2)Speak now
3)Red1989 in my opinion is overrated because that’s when overzealous people started liking her.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 1:32 pm #1203602374To be fair, Kanye has harassed and bullied Taylor her entire career. Bipolar disorder is obviously a serious disease. But it doesn’t negate the fact that he’s done/said sh*tty things.
As someone with Bipolar type I, Kanye’s actions look a lot like bipolar episodes. While that doesn’t excuse his actions, the conversation about Kanye’s personality needs to happen mainly about mental illness. There’s more productive ways to talk about it than saying he’s a terrible person when he is in fact stereotypically bipolar. I mean, it’s tough when you don’t trust yourself and you mess up ALOT. And sometimes meds make you feel bad, I’ve been on 7 different types of medications in 18 months. All with different side effects.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 1:21 pm #1203602347I hate him as a person, respect him as an artist.
Kanye has bipolar, like him or hate him. He has a personality disorder that is now extremely public. Not cool to make comments like this.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 10:06 am #1203602017I wasn’t in this forum for that ceremony but I knew that 1989 was winning solely on the fact that it was the biggest album in the bunch, its commercial success was too big to ignore for voters.
folklore has huge critical acclaim (we still have to wait and see if it’ll drop to the high 80s after most of the usual critics are in) but, like I said, she has to check every single mark because we’re talking about a third win.
I know she’ll probably find a way to assure her longevity because she’s Taylor Swift, she’s smart. But saying that it’s the frontrunner to win barely a day in is just a little too much for me.
It was exactly like this, only like I was the only Taylor Swift fan (seriously). Taylor is the most decisive artist going, but he track record speaks for itself. Adele and Taylor, then everyone else. This album is very different, which again is the only reason I think it’s got a shot. Had this been a pop album absolutely no way. It’s just so damn good from THE artist of the past 15 years.
I mean this is her 8 album and by far her best and she’s already won twice. Winning for this album wouldn’t result in a backlash, it was result in her never winning again.
Personally she should just win Song of the Year which she should have won last year. I mean mainstream artist have tried this, and only Beyoncé made it work.
July 25, 2020 at 9:33 am #1203601959Chile I’ve been a Taylor stan since 2009 and lemme tell y’all you’re fr overreacting.
It’s barely been a day, how can you predict her as an AOTY frontrunner already? Yeah it’s her most critically acclaimed record but that won’t be enough to pull a THIRD AOTY win. She needs to check every mark, we won’t know how folklore will perform longevity wise until approximately two months from now.
I get being excited because the album is amazing but DAMN, stop the madness.
I believe it just because you can literally go back on the sight and we were having the same exact debate on “1989” vs “To Pimp A Butterfly”. With the argument being “Taylor Swift will not be the first woman to win twice a few years after previously winning”
You just can’t underestimate her. Had this album not gotten the reviews it’s getting I would agree but Taylor Swift is getting a album with a MC score of 90 or above. That’s crazy.
July 25, 2020 at 9:27 am #1203601933well i don’t care tbh they can break the records all they want, i just like the fact that her most critically acclaimed album is also doing amazing commercially
I personally believe she didn’t think it would be popular which is why she never did it. She’s a “strike while the iron is hot” kind of marketer.
This I believe was made because:
1)she cannot promote it at all
2)she not touring at all
3)given the current climate no one can truly enjoy pop music right now.She also has complete creative control through her record label and from what I’m hearing about it they didn’t know it was happening until last week and had no say because of their deal.
folklore is a product of the days right now. Everyone hunkered down and got bored, Taylor just happened to have a studio near by.
ReplyJuly 25, 2020 at 8:55 am #1203601868And yes, the album is getting good reviews. But it’ll be funny when it ends up not even being one of the five most acclaimed albums of the year.
I love your name 🤪
July 25, 2020 at 8:38 am #1203601818Funny how some people bend over backwards to proclaim she is some American genius. Hint… she’s not.
Dude, google the reviews. You’re the one bending over backwards trying to deny her talent.
This album is freaking incredible. She wrote it in four months in quarantine, how is that not amazing?
Y’all act like she still has something to prove, she’s freakin Taylor Swift. One of the most successful acts of all time commercially and critically. She’s been winning awards for over 10 years, she has the most solo hits than any other woman. This album is fire, it was the last thing she probably wanted to prove about herself “I can write on a Bob Dylan level”.
She’s the greatest songwriter of her generation.
