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July 9, 2020 at 9:31 am #1203577951
1. Bon Iver
2. Esperanza Spalding
4. Sam Smith
5. Alessia Cara
6. Chance the Rapper
7. Dua Lipa
8. Zac Brown Band
9. Macklmore & Ryan Lewis
10. Meghan Trainor
Horrible track recordJuly 9, 2020 at 7:50 am #1203577777
Katy Perry could, but she does have the disadvantage of being later in the alphabetical list (contrary to prior filler nominees Backstreet Boys, Christina Aguilera, Tony Bennet, Beck, and Beyoncé)
The Grammys need to show all nominees in a random order that is different for each voter. Then each nominee will be at the top of the list for some voters and the bottom for others.July 9, 2020 at 7:37 am #1203577759
I completely forgot that Katy Perry is releasing. Yes, depending on how the album is received she may be in the race for that 5th slot.July 9, 2020 at 7:23 am #1203577746
There are two releases coming out tomorrow that could potentially make Grammy noise.
First is Juice WRLD’s posthumous album. I doubt this will make noise since all of the singles have failed to gain as much traction as his older songs. He will need a big hit because Grammy’s do not like music about drugs. There is a new single out with Marshmellow, which is fine but I doubt it will gain traction.
Second is Summer Walker’s EP. If the EP is solid or even has one minor hit, she will be fresh in voters minds and have a strong case to get into BNA since she will have two eligible releases this period and Over It has already gone platinum. From the snippets I heard, the EP might move slightly away from RnB and towards hiphop.July 9, 2020 at 7:10 am #1203577729
Rina Sawayama is too much of a niche artist to get any pop field nominations. She still doesn’t have any song that has broken 10 million Spotify streams or 5 million Youtube views, while BTS and BLACKPINK both have billion view Youtube videos.July 9, 2020 at 7:01 am #1203577709
I am a fan of BTS and Kpop, but realistically Grammy voters don’t like Kpop or boybands. And yes BTS is huge, but 2020 is not the year that they got huge. This wasn’t a breakthrough year for them compared to 2017-2019. And by many metrics, BLACKPINK is as big as BTS. BTS rule Twitter while BLACKPINK have more Instagram followers. BTS does better on album charts while BLACKPINK does better on singles charts and streaming platforms and their music videos now get more views than BTS.July 9, 2020 at 6:42 am #1203577692
But horrible albums like Evolve by Imagine Dragons, Bangerz by Miley Cyrus
Bangerz has some of Mike Will’s best production, and I know the cultural appropriation is problematic but it is maybe the best trap-pop crossover album of that era. In hindsight looking back at the song 4×4 , Miley Cyrus was waaaay ahead of Young Thug or Lil Nas X on the country rap trend.July 9, 2020 at 5:57 am #1203577615
I don’t really see why Rain on Me should be the frontrunner for Music Video. This is clearly a green screen video that was shot in one day. The choreo is simple, and there are so many cuts so rather than learning actual choreo for a long shot, they only had to learn a bunch of 2 second snips of dance and just spliced them together. There are zero outfit changes, Gaga just puts on a chain vest over her same outfit. The production budget on ROM just feels small even compared to her first three albums which had multiple giant expensive sets, difficult tracking shots and complex cinematography, multiple outfit changes, huge casts of backup dancers, etc.
This is the one category where BTS actually deserves to win. Koreans have been spending more money and putting more effort into their choreo and music videos than Americans for years. Why should Gaga win for a low effort green screen video when these boys actually learned difficult choreo? The choreo in Black Swan just absolutely murders the choreo of any western star except for maybe FKA Twigs or Normani.July 9, 2020 at 4:37 am #1203577535
The fifth slot in pop vocal album is a total tossup. Justin and Camilla are the most likely since they are big names, but everyone hated their albums. Halsey is the next most likely, she is less famous but more people liked her album. BTS is after that, their album has a lot of old songs on it that didn’t get nominated last year, and this is the first year that their fame level didn’t continue to rise. Coldplay is next after that, nobody listened to their album but they could get the name-check voters. Charli is next. She is probably not famous enough, she has never been embraced by the radio except for Boom Clap and I Don’t Care, but she still gets 100 million+ streams on songs and has a dedicated fanbase. Selena is not happening. I think everyone is aware that she is nothing more than a former Disney girl.July 8, 2020 at 6:27 pm #1203575132
Justin Timberlake made his solo-artist breakthrough with a disco sound on songs like Rock Your Body, and has had disco songs on every album except for Man of the Woods. The Weeknd’s I Feel it Coming is a better take on modern disco than any recent song. Jessie J had hits only a few years ago although she was never A-list. Kylie was also a huge star like 15 years ago off doing disco and house infused pop. Her legacy is large enough that she headlined NY Pride only a few years ago when tons of pop divas have never been invited to headline pride.July 8, 2020 at 6:14 pm #1203575109
Idk I consider Charli one of the better pop songwriters of the last decade. She does like to sing about partying and falling in love, but she is able to do so in a way that seems more like she is writing about her life and not just resorting to cliches. She is a story teller, she has clever lyrics and complex rhyme schemes for pop, she sometimes has undeniable hooks (I Don’t Care, I Love It!) and she has interesting taste in production. Charli is definitely her worst album I agree.
I actually like most of the singles off of Dua’s first album, there are like four very solid singles on that album and then a truckload of filler. I just think the production budget went up on FN and they polished everything up while the songwriting took a nosedive.July 8, 2020 at 5:55 pm #1203575084
It’s sad to think how Katy was so big just a few years ago. One bad era and you find yourself out of the game, music industry really is cruel.
I think Katy Perry’s fall from fame had less to do with her music and more to do with her being a walking cringe factory. She was never going survive into the social media age.July 8, 2020 at 5:42 pm #1203575072
OMFG queen mother Lana is coming to bless our ears this month, and again in September!!! I don’t even care if it is a poetry album, that shit is going on heavy rotation while I wait for the full album. A generous queen we do not deserve her.July 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm #1203575060
Thats the whole point. Producers help define pop artists. Charli XCX has AG Cook. Rina Sawayama has Clarence Clarity. Gaga has Bloodpop. Those producers helped define that sound regardless if its average. That’s why I do think Dua Lipa will be nominated come November.
All of these artists are more competent songwriters, lyricists and vocalists than Dua. I also predict she will be nominated at least twice in the GF but I will be pissed if she wins.
In pop music. The last person to do it, while the general public noticed was Daft Punk. It’s not your average synthpop. If you can point me into someone who has retro disco, house, and synthpop, in the mainstream, that doesn’t sound like modern day dance music, by all means. Dua feels retro yet fresh.
Justin Timberlake, Kylie Minogue, The Weeknd, Bruno Mars, Calvin Harris, Katy Perry (Chained to the Rhythm), Jessie J, Beyoncé (Blow), DNCE (Cake By the Ocean), Toro Y Moi, many many moreJuly 8, 2020 at 4:53 pm #1203574919
Agree to disagree on Dua. That’s a huge stretch to say it doesn’t sound like anything else. It sounds exactly like everything else but the production does have a nice gloss and bounce to it. To me Dua and Harry are king and queen of the basics.
And I do like Beyonce and Taylor, but Beyonce has been doing too much since Lemonade, and Lover was weak.