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July 21, 2020 at 11:34 pm #1203595428
Her best produced work was on GL, if you watch what she did on that show for the time in which she was doing it with the talent she had, it was a thrilling time and credit has to be given in some part to Jill for that. Proctor and Gamble never should have transferred her to AW from GL. Keeping her at GL and giving her more control rather than being dictated to by P&G cost cutting executives would have been better for both GL and AW at the time. She injected a very stale OLTL with spirit again, and she carried on Wendy Riche’s GH as best anyone could have hoped IMO. For me it was her Y&R & AW stints that were least successful. I think Jill gets an unfair wrap overall. She’s done a lot for the industry to help it continue and at times thrive during a very difficult era to produce daytime soaps.July 21, 2020 at 11:34 pm #1203595430
Her best produced work was on GL, if you watch what she did on that show for the time in which she was doing it with the talent she had, it was a thrilling time and credit has to be given in some part to Jill for that. Proctor and Gamble never should have transferred her to AW from GL. Keeping her at GL and giving her more control rather than being dictated to by P&G cost cutting executives would have been better for both GL and AW at the time. She injected a very stale OLTL with spirit again, and she carried on Wendy Riche’s GH as best anyone could have hoped IMO. For me it was her Y&R & AW stints that were least successful. I think Jill gets an unfair wrap overall. She’s done a lot for the industry to help it continue and at times thrive during a very difficult era to produce daytime soaps.June 26, 2020 at 8:01 pm #1203554128
Very confused as to why Daytime Talk Informative Host was not presented on the telecast or on the press announcement of additional winners following the ceremony. Isn’t it a bit odd to have presented and awarded Talk Show Entertainment, Talk Show Host Entertainment, & Talk Show Informative and not Talk Show Host Informative?June 26, 2020 at 7:11 pm #1203554029
Anyone have any idea when or where the full list of wins not presented Tonight are? I assumed they’d be released as soon as the telecast was over.June 26, 2020 at 6:56 pm #1203553976
We could nitpick over tiny things, but on a whole, BRAVO to whomever is responsible for this overall production. I’ve watched more award shows in 40 yrs than I care to admit, and given what they were up against, and in comparison to many other telecasts, this one nailed it and will be a template for others going forward. The overall tone and spirit of this telecast is Spot On and that could not have been easy, especially when so many live daytime Emmy telecasts failed at it. This production has given ALL of Daytime the credit it is due and that can only be a win for an industry that certainly needed a big one! NATAS & CBS you are to be commended for your extra effort for this telecast.June 26, 2020 at 6:16 pm #1203553832
Absolutely beautiful In Memoriam segment. So many wonderfully talented souls who I thoroughly appreciated and respect for being masters in their craft!June 26, 2020 at 5:56 pm #1203553774
Okay, Sesame Street winning that category was the first mistake of the evening as far as wins is concerned. Any other nominee would have been more deserved!June 26, 2020 at 5:38 pm #1203553748
I’ve gotta hand it to CBS so far and give a big thumbs up to this production. Frankly, parts of it are better than the in-person ceremonies of the past decade. With the cards this ceremony was dealt from the very beginning and where it wound up…the folks at NATAS should be very pleased.June 26, 2020 at 4:56 pm #1203553659
Considering ABC’s half-hearted attempt looking at the history of the American soap opera and now CBS’s willingness to fill a couple of hours on a Friday evening in the summer with the return of the Daytime Emmy telecast to broadcast network television, it ALMOST feels like there’s an effort being made to keep this industry going. B&B being the first American show to lead the way and return to taping, the special reunions that Alan Locher is doing in his Locher Room YouTube channel, and the soap classics the networks are airing for GH, B&B, & Y&R without original programming are all signs that a rather significant audience for the network soap opera still exists and are hungry for more than just 4 shows. One can only hope this terrible time in our nations history could lead to somethings positive for a genre that a decade ago was on deaths door. Wouldn’t it be great to see a P&G and/or ABC show return or a new inventive show (ala Melange) to become a new daytime serial? One can dream can’t they? Looking forward to this telecast and hoping it’s a well produced event.June 1, 2020 at 8:00 pm #1203512409
This movie could have been an Oscar contender. The script is very strong, Jackman hasn’t been this good in years. Janney hasn’t made one bad move in her entire career. Very strong ensemble. Shockingly disturbing yet ultimately rewarding experience for a viewer. 5 stars from me.May 26, 2020 at 4:18 pm #1203502469
YS may never be better than she was in Season 2. Seriously, you don’t get story arch’s like that too often as an actress. I still think she should have won last year.
Both AD & YS are neither going to phone it in or turn in a bad performance in these roles. AD’s season 1 win was deserved as was the nomination in season 2. I personally wouldn’t nominate her for season 3. Yes, she had a stand alone episode, but compared to the work she had already done, it wasn’t anything special. YS continued to show more layers as Serena Joy and AD wasn’t giving me anything new. JMOMay 18, 2020 at 4:48 pm #1203488745
Full season: I couldn’t quite put my finger on it in season one but this show has two inherent problems.
The first is that it is written to have the dialogue of a truly wicked and brilliant comedy but this is smashed together with the plotting of a really mediocre soap opera. The former element does wonders to disguise the fundamental issues that the latter raises, ensuring that it constantly feels like a fresher, more original show than it actually is because the conversations can dart about with such an enjoyable intensity. Where it cannot cover it though is in moments when even the dialogue is attempting seriousness and here all the basic narrative choices and wholly obvious “twists” come to fester. Instead the show consequently relies upon the work of two experienced and exciting performers to once again hide the hollowness of the series’ heart. Cardellini fares better of the two because she is allowed to be constantly unpredictable and so is able to grab the ridiculous bull by the horns and ride with it. But poor Christina Applegate – also regularly exquisite, don’t get me wrong – struggles more because of the series’ insistence on putting her through the same mill. And it’s almost understandable because the way the character has been written means that unless her life is appalling, there isn’t a story. But, in actuality, if the show just trusted its comic instincts and took these into the plotting as it very occasionally does to great effect, the whole thing would shine so much brighter.
The second issue relates to this. For a large proportion of the season (and probably the last one too but I can’t overly remember it enough to be sure), every episode follows the same structure: Jen has a problem, Judy suggests a solution that Jen rejects, they go their separate ways whilst Judy goes to do more interesting things, they come together with a solution to the problem, there’s a cliffhanger that starts the cycle again for the next episode. It’s so procedural that if you stop binging for a second (as I unfortunately did after the first few episodes) it becomes starkly clear the lack of interest in the season’s full plotline that has been induced. The show trains you as a viewer to only care about the one episode at a time so that you don’t really have time to consider the incredibly lacking bigger picture. Once you fall out of the routine of binging the cliffhangers are also diluted. Because you expect them. So it’s not really even a cliffhanger anymore because you know that you’re going to get the answer by the end of the next half hour.
When the show abandons this structure. It works. Really works. The finale is truly alive television. Exciting from the get go but also so broadly comic in every thing it tries to do. And it slaps the season’s best twist (the paintings) right in the middle of the episode so you truly don’t see it coming, alongside exemplary work from Diana-Maria Riva.
This all is going to sound much more critical than I intend to be. I do enjoy the show. It’s easy to watch and it makes me laugh out loud. But that’s all it is. And frankly part of the reason why I feel like voicing this is because I saw some even suggest this as our series winner. I do not even overly understand the urgency for Applegate, especially when her character is in no way a comic creation. She has very funny lines put in her mouth, yes, but nothing about the persona is imbued with any kind of underlying hilarity. I’d understand it more if it was coming from those who consider this to be a drama because that is where Applegate shines. But even then by the season’s end I was almost over seeing her squish up her face again to shed some tears because she’d done it so much already. It’s different for Cardellini, who is, in my opinion, giving an Emmy winner’s turn as she slides so effortlessly between wacky loon, sincere confidante and someone with a life of trauma. But she has the advantage of Judy’s larger than life personality to be able to go that extra mile. I hope now that Jen’s major burdens have seemingly been lifted Applegate can get her due from the writers soon.
I look forward to season three (I think) and I do not expect anyone here to agree with me but I just felt the need to express my (very long) two cents somewhere.
YES YES YES YES YES! Thank you for putting into words EXACTLY my feelings on this show.May 10, 2020 at 5:02 am #1203474128
I wasn’t as blown away by the season as fellow posters are. That’s not to say it’s bad, in fact the opposite, it’s still a very winning, quirky breezy middle aged Grace and Frankie with a little How to Get Away with Murder to spice things up. If I were to give season 1 4 out of 5 stars, I’d give season 2 3.5 stars. There were some serious lulls in the first 3 episodes. But once episode 4 began, the pacing picked up and the performances went from good to “and the nominees are” caliber.
Linda Cardellini imo has the hardest of the 2 roles to play. Judy has some serious character motivation flaws in the writing, but my god does Linda sell Judy unlike most actresses even wouldn’t even think too. Episode 4 is hands down the best performance of the series by any performer to date IMO.
Applegate to me give a more solid Convincing turn in season 2 than she did in season one. But episode 10 for me was so incredibly forced from her when she confronts Judy in comparison to what Cardellini did in episode 4. It was so affected coming from Applegate and unnatural that I cringed.
To each their own, but if I were an Emmy voter, Catherine O’Hara still would get my vote, followed by Cardellini, Brosnahan, Messing & Applegate in that order. Again, jmo.April 29, 2020 at 5:57 pm #1203454216
the Limited Series slots are very much up for grabs. I think underestimating BELGRAVIA is a mistake a lot of you are making. Oscar and Emmy winner Julian Fellowes follows his Downton Abby success with this equally impressive outing. The entire Award winning design team is back and the lush and sorted lives of BELGRAVIA not only look first rate, but the performances are top notch. Tamsin Grieg & Harriet Walter are SO good. I think this little sleeper could make a splas, especially with its hit or miss limited series competition.April 17, 2020 at 6:00 am #1203431788
IMO, the abrupt disappearance of the character of Sal and failure to give him any type of closure during the final season was Matthew Weiners biggest mistake on an otherwise impeccably crafted show. Just as Sal was hitting his stride, poof he was gone! With his characters growth, it would have been fascinating to see how Sal did or didn’t cope with his realities during that time period.