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July 9, 2020 at 3:28 pm #1203578813
She never got the ratings up. It was stuck at the bottom.
She managed to get the show back in Emmy contention after being virtually ignored – sans Linda Dano’s nominations and wins – for almost a decade. But many were turned off by her trying to turn AW into the cheap Daytime version of ER, complete with a knock-off opening theme.
AW at this point was really unwanted by NBC. They wanted a DAYS 2.0 which they got in even more ridiculous form in Passions.
I think ABC just transferred her to GH.June 16, 2020 at 5:27 pm #1203537363
You are incorrect about Lucci’s 1996 submission. She did not submit The Woman Of The Year episode. Her first tape was her tour de force where she’s locked herself in the powder room popping pills left and right while waiting on Myrtle to bring her a new gown. Her second tape was dreadful. It was Erica going through detox while Noah ( the always reliably dull Keith Hamilton Cobb ) watches over her. As always with her submissions, Susan Lucci submitted one great reel followed by a second reel that tanks her chances.
What year do you think Lucci deserved to win?
I would’ve voted for her in 1996, 1999 and 2001 (Sorry Martha Byrne). She shouldve been nominated in 2004/5 for the aftermath of Bianca’s rape – but I’m not sure she was even prenominated.June 14, 2020 at 4:50 pm #1203533013
And in 1987 she submitted Mark’s intervention.June 14, 2020 at 4:50 pm #1203533011
In 1990, she submitted Erica begging God not take Bianca after she became ill.
In 2001 she submitted Bianca coming out to Erica.
In 2003 she submitted Chris Stamp’s death.June 13, 2020 at 8:47 pm #1203531865
The category has mostly had great winners. I think we should ignore the awards after 2011 because with the cancellations there has been so little competition in the acting categories. In the 1980s there was something like 150 people competing in the supporting categories. Which is amazing to think about.
There were some strange wins – the previously mentioned victories of Laurie Heineman and Irene Dailey in the 1970s when they were most definitely not Another World’s leading ladies – Beverlee McKinsey and Victoria Wyndham were – at the time. Wyndham, McKinsey, Leslie Charleson, Jackie Zeaman and Maureen Garrett never winning in this category remain sore points.
Dorothy Lyman’s win must’ve been strange at the time. Opal was primarily comedic relief but the Lyman was a powerhouse in that role.
At the time I was also annoyed that Slezak won in 1992 for what was her fellow nominee Jessica Tuck’s storyline. I also was incredulous when Zimmer bested Jeanne Cooper in 1990 when Cooper was sublime in that Marge dual role.May 14, 2020 at 4:12 pm #1203481787
For whatever GL was decimated after Marland departed the show to co-create Loving with Agnes Nixon. Almost all the characters he invested in disappeared.May 10, 2020 at 10:31 am #1203474542
Yes McKinsey not even being nominated that year was pretty criminal. And maybe helped convince her that her time in daytime needed to end. (She also complained about the storylines around this time and supposedly didn’t like working with Zaslow). The oversight of Kate Collins for her dynamic portrayals was also a major debacle. Guiding Light at this time was peaking as well and should’ve won best show.
Of the actual nominees that year, I would’ve chosen Jessica Tuck who was just wonderful. They killed Megan off because Tuck wanted to do something better than a Soap. Unfortunately that never happened for her. It always felt weird that Slezak won for a story that was essentially someone else’s.May 1, 2020 at 2:26 pm #1203457840
SeanFlynn/ScottFerguson … then he got banned and this place went downhill fast.May 1, 2020 at 2:23 pm #1203457836
Eileen Fulton, Vicky Wyndham and Deas are the remaining (and still living) major P&G stars Alan has yet to include. Wyndham always seemed prickly and is probably long over wanting anything to do with AW – nobody really had anything to say about her in the AW reunion.
I hated Buzz Cooper! The Coopers ate the show, but I admit Deas was a major figure on soaps for thirty years. I did always find it distasteful however that he kept submitting himself for Emmys and then almost never bothering to show up.April 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm #1203456560April 30, 2020 at 6:54 pm #1203456480
They’ve had some technical snafus but they overall have been wonderful – to see what they’re up to now and their memories of these past shows.
I enjoyed the first two most of all, especially to see someone like Maureen Garett again.April 26, 2020 at 2:13 pm #1203448830
It was a great moment and one of the best speeches in awards show history.
The rumor was by the mid-1990s that Susan had more to gain by losing each year than by actually winning the award and thus she submitted bad episodes. In a way that mad sense. Just imagine the trajectory of her career if she won way back in 1978? She most likely would not have acquired the title of the Queen of Daytime, become the top earner in the medium, or become a household name as she legitimately became in the 1990s. She became more famous and made more money with each loss. She also became a good sport about it. She went from pounding the table when Robin Strasser won in 1982 and bursting out in tears when her co-star Dorothy Lyman (in one of the greatest turns in Daytime history) won the following year, to taking every loss like a champ by the mid-1990s.
Some of the tapes she did submit were truly terrible, particularly the year Jess Walton triumphed. The baby stealing episode of 1998 was of questionable quality, too. It was either too much weepy crying or alternatively light comedy. When she was competing against over the top powerhouses like Zimmer and Sleazak who destroyed anything and everything in their way when they got a script that screamed EMMY, she had no chance.
She did get it right in 1996, 1999, and 2001. I would’ve voted for her those years. 1995 was Lucci’s best year. She bulldozed through her material that year including the tail end of the Kendall story and then the addiction storyline including the infamous “Woman of the Year” speech in which a drugged-up Erica spit venom at everyone in Pine Valley. The stuff with SMG as Kendall was non-stop fireworks – you could just see the loathing the two women had for each other and it lit a fire in Lucci even if she hated the storyline with a passion and, I believe, it brought AMC back to #2 for the last time. Yet Slezak won for another DID storyline, some heavy breathing, and jazz hands.
She screwed up her submission 1995 submitting the weepy stuff from Mona’s funeral rather than the knock down drag out fights with Kendall from that year.
She won deservedly in 1999 despite the show collapsing that year – it was McTavish’s second stint on the show and it stunk! Remember Kit? I wish I didn’t. She probably deserved another nomination in 2004 for her work the previous year during Bianca’s rape. I remember Micahel Logan saying Lucci stole those scenes from then it-girl Eden Reigel. And he was right! After 2005 Erica reverted into a protective mother role (and Zach lapdog) and she never got anything remotely good again.
(I haven’t posted here in a decade – quarantine brought me back).September 2, 2015 at 6:57 pm #193748
This will end badly.June 25, 2015 at 8:54 pm #188862
I’m surprised no one has yet mentioned either Helen Hunt or Halle Berry. Those used to be the boogeymen in this category.June 25, 2015 at 8:48 pm #188861
Meryl Streep, The Iron Lady, Our Lady of Accents strikes agains this time with a lame impersonation in an even lamer movie which is basically a emotionless clip reel of Thatcher highlights spliced together with Meryl doddering around her kitchen in loads of makeup; just terrible
Bette Davis, Dangerous, Davis is as sacred of a cow as any Great Actress but this performance (and movie) stinks to high heavan; every beat of this role is played in a screechy tone and even worse its all played to the rafters; only later would Davis learn the value of nuance
Loretta Young, The Farmer’s Daughter, I echo tonorlo on this one; I have no idea how to explain this win
Elizabeth Taylor, Butterfield Eight, “Mama face it I was the slut of all time”; and this is the greatest stinker of all time
Kathy Bates, Misery, she was much better years late in another King adaptation Dolores Claiborne, which is a revelation; here though she is so aggresively one note that she strains herself in the process; cartoony
Kate Winslet, The Reader, Nazi war criminals and illiteracy – that says it all right there, doesn’t it?
Cate Blancett, Blue Jasmine, so shoot me! But I thought this was a miserable performance in an absolutely miserable film; What the fuck was up with her accent: no one talks like that let alone in New York; every mannerism was telegraphed, every actorly trick was on full display; Robert Englund as Freddy Krueger gives more natural performances