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February 17, 2020 at 7:04 pm #1203350096
Right but you’re probably not talking primarily to Black people, are you? Am I wrong to assume in your day to day life you mostly are with white people?
I know more white people, but I’m also in touch with and see several people of color on a regular basis.
Anyway, in case if my initial comment seemed like this, I should state that I’m not doubting Hudson’s chances. I can definitely see her get nominated. I don’t think she’ll pull of a win, just because I find the idea of her winning two acting Oscars a bit far fetched. She’s mainly seen as a singer, and Dreamgirls is really her only particularly big acting project. I know several people thought Zellweger seemed like someone who wouldn’t win two Oscars, but on paper, she made more sense than Hudson, as she’s undeniably thought of as an actress, unlike Hudson, and before her career started to fall off, she was still a bigger/more Academy friendly name. Also, she benefited from a weak year. We won’t know if next year will be similar to the last lineup yet. If it is, then a Hudson win seems more plausible to me. If it’s strong, I think she won’t get more than a nomination.February 17, 2020 at 6:55 pm #1203350085
Maybe but I don’t see any other contenders actually having more votes than those two. I mean who do we have? Porter, whose show became a big no1curr and might miss all together, Brown whose show also fades with that SAG Ensemble snub and nobody cares about Menzies in The Crown. Bateman is I guess possible, but I think this may be Oh/Comer situation in that they propably both will be ahead of competition. EDIT: Forgot about Odenkirk, but Emmys really never cared for this show that much, but he’s a possibility.
I think Odenkirk and Menzies are real possibilities. Menzies performance was very well received, and unlike Colman and Bonham Carter, who were also acclaimed, there seems to be less people saying they find him inferior to the original actor. I’ve actually heard a few people saying that they preferred him to Matt Smith, which I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say about Colman and Bonham Carter.
While Better Call Saul has struggled with wins, I think it’s come closer more times than people give it credit for. I’m fairly certain Odenkirk was second place for season three, and he might’ve been the runner up in some of his bouts for the Emmy. Also, this upcoming season has some very good early buzz, so maybe he could be the critical favorite. And even though people have claimed Better Call Saul is filler on here in the past, it’s still done fairly well in nominations each year it’s been eligible.February 17, 2020 at 5:41 pm #1203350017
I totally agree with Judy Garland’s history. But the fact that Aretha Franklin is not on the same level as Freddie Mercury is certain not the case. She paved the way for civil rights anthems with women like Nina Simone that helped strong black women into music. Yes, she probably won’t have a box office movie towards her name nor will I believe that Jennifer Hudson will win an Oscar, Aretha Franklin’s influence is still relevant today with many female pop artist. And to say no one within the academy will be excited to see this movie if it’s great is blastfomy.
No one’s trying to downplay Franklin’s legacy or all that she accomplished, but I personally believe Mercury is more famous and beloved. That’s nothing against Franklin, it’s just that I hear more about Mercury and his status than I do about her.February 17, 2020 at 5:36 pm #1203350010
It’s worth noting, if only one of them gets nominated, I think that actor will win. If both get in, I think a vote split is very possible.February 17, 2020 at 5:19 pm #1203349984
Maeve definitely is most people’s favorite character and if not it’s either William or Robert.
For me, it’s hard to tell the overall popular outside of Maeve being the usual #1. I don’t hear enough people consistently citing William, Robert, Dolores, or Bernard to find out who’s the usual number 2.February 17, 2020 at 5:12 pm #1203349968
I’m happy to read this. — Since Newton is the only one from the show to have won an Emmy, they tend put her on a pedestal and say she’s above the rest of the cast. Evan Rachel Wood is so getting in…
Just for the record Maeve isn’t even my favorite, but she’s definitely the character I hear the most talk about. People love her. As I said before, a lot of people were divided on Dolores’ season two portrayal, while Maeve is still just as possible as she was in the first season. To me, she’s the most popular character.February 17, 2020 at 5:00 pm #1203349951
By the face I meant the main character, it started out with her and Dolores and the most recognizable name on the show, stop lying to urself.
It started out seemingly focusing on Wood as the main character, but it then very quickly became an ensemble show. And your clearly lying to yourself if you honestly think Wood is the most recognizable name in the show. Ed Harris and especially Anthony Hopkins are clearly the biggest names. Wood’s name recognition is about the same as Jeffrey Wright and James Marsden.February 17, 2020 at 4:35 pm #1203349934
Maeve is obviously a fan favorite I’ll give you that, but no way she’s more popular than Dolores. Rachel Wood’s character is the face of Westworld, people will always give you her name before Maeve. Rachel Wood is the better actress, you’re delusional if you think otherwise. Also, what I meant was that Maeve can be played by any actress and they’ll do just as good as Newton. Let them try to do Dolores and what you’ll get is an Olivia Colman trying to match Clair Foy type of performance.
There are literally other actors on the show who have done what Wood’s done though. Louis Herthum covered all the general bases of Wood’s work throughout the series in just one scene. And Westworld doesn’t even have a true face. There’s no one true main character. If Wood or any other score was really the face, wouldn’t they be on the poster? Or be more emphasized in the advertisements? None of them are.February 17, 2020 at 4:03 pm #1203349918
I do wonder if we see a shake up in the acting submissions for season two with Snook and Strong deciding to compete in supporting instead.
It Strong and Snook went supporting, then I think they could earn easy wins. Snook’s case may be more ambiguous, but Strong would feel like a pretty certain luck there. However, I don’t think that’s gonna happen, specifically because of Snook’s placement (and to a lesser extent Cox’s placement) last year. Most people agree she wasn’t a lead in season one, but they submitted her there anyway. I think they did this to establish her as a contender in lead for season 2. Same could go for Cox, who several people thought felt more supporting there.February 17, 2020 at 3:59 pm #1203349911
First all of Dolores is the more popular character on the show, most people (I’ve spoken with) always refer toMaeve as the black girl/the one playing the prostitute, but when I ask about Dolores, they automatically know her name. Also Newton has the more baity character among the cast, she has the chance to feel different types of ways which helps her a lot, while the others are pretty one note yet the manage to give top notch performances. Rachel Wood especially, her character is so complex but she always deliver, plus she’s obviously a better actress than Newton in general. I do love both, but let’s not pretend Thandie is the face of WW, she won the Emmy because of her character being more award friendly.
This post seems pretty biased. Most everyone I’ve heard talking about the show say that Maeve is their favorite. And don’t act like Newton had a more award friendly second season. Wood got to have an active role in nearly every single episode while Newton was tied to a table for a long amount of time, giving her much less to do. And where’s the evidence that Wood’s “obviously a better actress”? And also why exactly does Newton’s character getting to “feel in different ways” make her acting job easier? Playing a developed character is more difficult than playing a one note character since there’s a lot more that the actor needs to adhere to rather than getting to just make it their own.February 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm #1203349891
There is now an official Tony rule that prohibits multiple actors from receiving a joint nomination. So, definitely not gonna happen. Predicting Lead Actor in a Play will be absolutely insane this year. Blame Billy Elliot.
Who knows, maybe they could all get a special award similar to the Matildas. I’m guessing that won’t happen though. Was the rule against joint nominations in place by then? I’m not sure. I seem to recall those actresses were considered ineligible because there were four of them, so they weren’t able to play it enough times a week each to be eligible.
As far as I know (I’m seeing the show in June), they’re all co-leads, so I don’t think they’d be able to push any of them down successfully.February 17, 2020 at 3:34 pm #1203349885
Of course the winning of Art Carney, when Nicholson and pacino were nominated, like what the fuck
It’s interesting that people always mention Carney beating Pacino and Nicholson, but they also seem to forget he beat out Dustin Hoffman for Lenny and Albert Finney for Murder on the Orient Express. I guess they don’t get mentioned as often since their films and performances aren’t regarded with the same iconic status as Pacino’s and Nicholson’s, but it’s still crazy to think that Carney, an actor who mainly worked in TV, beat out four cinematic legends who had never won at that point for his movie about him and a cat.February 17, 2020 at 3:21 pm #1203349875
Can’t believe people keep writing Rachel Wood off, and have Newton winning.
It makes sense though. Newton’s a huge fan favorite. Most would agree she’s the most popular character on the show, she’s already won, and her category doesn’t look as competitive. While Wood was very well received in the first season, her role was much more divisive in season two. A character who was previously seen as very sympathetic became so wildly different from her earlier portrayal, acting as a bloodthirsty and monstrous individual, arguably the closest thing the show currently has in the way of a main villain. Most people agree that Wood did a good job, but many people just didn’t find the character of Dolores engaging as such a malevolent presence. I specifically recall that even though she got nominated at the Emmys for the second season, many people called her the weak link of that lineup (Moss, Foy, Russell, Oh, and Maslaney being the other nominees), and while I heard a decent or at least noticeable amount of predictions for all the other nominees, pretty much nobody seemed to think Wood had a chance of winning. It’s worth noting that the character could go through some noticeable changes this year, as it’s been revealed that Aaron Paul’s character, a poor man who would never be able to get into Westworld, unlike the privileged rich people she encountered there, will help challenge her biased perspective on humans. I’m guessing she’ll still be a villain as I don’t think they’d reveal info like that before the season starts if she was gonna turn heroic, but I’m guessing they realized a lot of people didn’t care for her season two portrayal and they’re trying to make her more three dimensional as a result of that. We’ll see whether or not her portrayal is more well received this time around once the show starts up again.February 17, 2020 at 12:23 pm #1203349775
Oh well. It’s better be nominated and lose than to never be nominated at all.