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June 14, 2019 at 8:02 am #1202937641
Outstanding Cinematography For A Single-Camera Series (One Hour)
1. Game of Thrones (The Iron Throne)
2. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Simone)
3. Game of Thrones (The Long Night)
4. The Handmaid’s Tale (The Word)
5. The Man in the High Castle (Excess Animus)
6. Ozark (Reparations)
7. Game of Thrones (The Last of the Starks)
Three nominations for a show that was completely snub in that category for season 7 and only got 1 nomination for season 6?
Okay…June 14, 2019 at 5:04 am #1202937280
Some data that can help us:
-In the last years only Elisabeth Moss, Keri Russell, Matthew Rhys and Bob Odenkirk have been nominated more than once, Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh are very far from those four performances, especially Oh, so she is not coming back. Comer may return since she and Oh are the only ones eligible from last year.
-Odenkirk was snub for the third season, so I do not see him coming back for the fourth, maybe for the last season like Jon Hamm did, but who knows.
-All the drama nominees in the TCA in the last 5 years have also received an equivalent Emmy nomination with the exception of Jodie Comer, although, most of us think that she is not going to be the only exception for much longer.
-Patricia Arquette – The Act & Escape at Dannemora seems like the only lock for nomination, which make her the most probable winner as well.
I may be wrong, but I do not see Amy Adams and Mahershala Ali nominated, they left many people cold, so my predictions for Individual Achievement in Drama is:
Patricia Arquette – The Act & Escape at Dannemora
Michelle Williams – Fosse/Verdon
Jodie Comer – Killing Eve
Emilia Clarke – Game of Thrones (IMO – very deserving)
Julia Garner – Ozark, Dirty John and Maniac
Ben Whishaw – A Very English Scandal
Spoilers: Joey King – The Act, Sam Rockwell – Fosse/Verdon, Richard Madden – Bodyguard, Jharrel Jerome – When They See Us, Bob Odenkirk – Better Call Saul, Amy Adams – Sharp Object, Mahershala Ali – True Detective.June 13, 2019 at 8:02 pm #1202936875
What’s taking Program of the Year? The most popular drama was critically panned, and all the great ones would be worthy of a drama win but don’t have the popularity for an “of the year title”. I could see the nominees being exclusively comedies like Barry, TGP, Fleabag, and Limited Series like Chernobyl and When They See Us.
Yes, there will be no dramas, Chernobyl is going to win and GoT will be completely snubbed, maybe with the exception of Emilia Clarke.June 13, 2019 at 7:57 pm #1202936871
The technical aspects were on point? Those have categories. The actors raised the roof despite mediocre material? They have categories to be recognized in. The directing, the cinematography, the production values, etc all have their own categories. It’s true that they won’t all win, but honestly with how Drama Series wins have consistently framed Benioff and Weiss more than anyone else, I don’t get why giving the win to the two guys whose work most agree was the downside of the season is fair. Benioff and Weiss don’t deserve credit for this final season in the eyes of many people and a Drama Series win puts them in focus.
Exactly, very well said! Although, they were so blind and acting out of hurt ego when they were submitting that they did horrible mistakes, they were already snub last year in Cinematography, so choosing The Long Night as a submission for that category is a bad joke. I see them getting snub again in Lead Actor and Cinematography, but this time also in Writing and in Casting.June 13, 2019 at 1:46 pm #1202936426
It physically hurts me that Alfie Allen never got the recognition he deserved for the show.
Agree, I would remove both Nikolaj and Dinklage for him, if I had the power.June 13, 2019 at 1:45 pm #1202936422
I literally spent last year’s Emmys arguing with blind THT stans. I really don’t want to do this with GoT ones.
Comparing the reviews from season 3 of THT and from season 8 of GoT is more than clear who was the blind one last year and I will stop here as well.June 13, 2019 at 1:43 pm #1202936420
Hollywood professionals mostly defended the season
Not true, the only defender I have seen is Stephen King and some actors from previous season of GoT, although there have been many other previous actors who have insulted it. And stop categorizing millions of people and accept that you are part of the minority in regards to GoT.June 13, 2019 at 8:43 am #1202936005
The season 8 backlash, still, doesn’t indicate anything about the seventh season. And also, the “biggest backlash in TV history” is directly due to the fact its the most popular TV show in TV history, which might actually help it win since we are talking about professional industry people and not bitter teenage keyboard warriors.
Also, it’s true they spread the wealth more last year, but GoT still win a dazzling 9 wins. The competition was much stiffer than now, and while they still probably lost in Writing and perhaps even directing, GoT is still better than all it’s alternatives if you look at the bigger picture. Again, Twitter teenagers aside.
OMG, you are not only delusional, you are also condescending in a really childish way. TWO MILLION people signed that petition, do you really think that all those people are “bitter teenage keyboard warriors”? This is pathetic argument. The backlash towards season 8 is related to season 7, because it grow bigger there (all began with season 5) and it was so obvious that it hurt my brain to read your comment denying it.
And no, the industry already showed that they agree with me on season 7, those 9 wins from last year were all irrelevant with the exception of Best Drama, it lost Writing/Directing/Casting/Editing/Supporting actress and was snubbed in Lead Actor/Lead Actress/Cinematography, I already explained Dinklage, you are so biased that you were not even reading carefully, I never said that he is a bad actor, I said that he has done nothing interesting since season 4 and this is almost an unanimous opinion.
And a HARD no to your argument about GoT being the best one in the bigger picture, GoT will be the worst nominee by far, and if the Writers Guild want to maintain their reputation of being the best branch, they should snub it, so D&D can finally realize how out of place they are.
And like others said, many industry people were public about how bad this season was, among them nice people like Lupita Nyong’o and Minnie Driver.June 13, 2019 at 8:19 am #1202935968
Ivo Stoyanov wrote:
Succession was the ONLY new drama that the Writers Guild nominated alongside the four most acclaimed dramas in the last years and huge favorites of them – The Crown, The Handmaid’s Tale, The Americans and Better Call Saul.
Lol, seriously? You just posted about how others were being delusional. THT doesn’t deserve to be grouped with those shows.
The Writers Guild beg to differ since they awarded The Handmaid’s Tale as Best Drama, but they never awarded GoT and they never will. All the delusion is coming from you, THT deserves very single praise that has received.June 13, 2019 at 6:11 am #1202935794
Can someone tell me who tf to predict for Drama Guest Actor? lmao
Bradley Whitford, Ron Cephas Jones, James Cromwell and Michael McKean are nearly locks IMO. Denis O’Hare is a real possibility; they already nominated him for doing nothing in S1. Jeremy Allen White could get in if Homecoming was widely seen. And I have Glynn Turman in because I want him to get in, but it’s not a realistic prediction (though some editors have him in too)
Totally agree with you on Bradley Whitford, Ron Cephas Jones, James Cromwell and Michael McKean, I put Glynn Turman because of you, so I hope you are right about him, and in last place I have Griffin Dunne, he was very good, but yes, they may go with Denis O’Hare instead.June 13, 2019 at 6:06 am #1202935781
Succession is the biggest lock for a nomination in the drama writing category.
(And even if it is not, how is You ahead of it?)
Lack of contenders, and it being at the end of the ballot.
1. Succession was the ONLY new drama that the Writers Guild nominated alongside the four most acclaimed dramas in the last years and huge favorites of them – The Crown, The Handmaid’s Tale, The Americans and Better Call Saul.
2. There is no lack of contenders.
3. The order in the ballot has never been proof to be important or relevant, it is just a speculation.June 13, 2019 at 5:50 am #1202935746
I finally found the time to return to those forums and I am perplexed to see that GoT delusional fans are even more delusional than before.
So, last year, I was the first, and one of the few people here, that tried to make understand the rest of you that the backlash of GoT season 7 is enormous and much bigger than the one towards the second season of THT in the real world, tried to explain you how important are Facebook and YouTube fans for a show, however, I only received mocking and laughs.
Well, now we all saw how right I was about it. Although, even I was not able to foreseen the biggest backlash in TV or cinema history. That was due to the fact that I was not able to imagine how bad writers can D&D really be. And I love GoT, I was even partially defending this season during the first 5 episodes, but the last episode is so horribly written that it should be illegal.
Last year, the Emmys were also seeing this quality decay, they obviously liked The Americans (won screenplay versus GoT), The Handmaid’s Tale (won guest actress and editing versus GoT), Westworld (won supporting actress versus GoT) and The Crown (won directing versus GoT) much more, but those shows divided the votes and somehow GoT managed to win Best Drama as the only important win for season 7. GoT was also snubbed in Lead Actor, Lead Actress and Cinematography. Dinklage wins and huge love towards him walking around and saying bad jokes will forever remain a mystery, so his win does not count. It is obvious that the Emmys are done with the show, maybe it will win Best Drama if again all other shows cancel each other, but nothing else (again, it goes without saying, Dinklage is always a possibility, I just hope that he will select a different episode than the finale in which he has the worst written and acted monologue in TV’s history).June 13, 2019 at 5:17 am #1202935661
Well, I thought Perkins was terrific to be honest; her role as the racist mother was very believable. I get where you’re coming from, but I find it alarming when a show, let alone a Drama Series nominee, can’t produce nods for Emmy darlings, which Burton & Perkins are. I mean Burton got in for Scandal after all – I won’t lie, she was win-worthy IMO. This is also why I can’t behind a Christine Baranski prediction; if voters actually watched the show or remotely cared about it, then why weren’t Alan Alda & Margo Martindale nominated last year? Instead they went for newbie Kelly Jenrette and Viola Davis for a show that voters don’t care about anymore.
Yes, I agree with you, she was believable, but she was not memorable. Burton was a cliché of the typical psychiatrist, not memorable at all. Pam Grier was the most memorable, but she was in the most hated episode of the second season and only had 5 minutes of screen time. I really think that is an error to compare them to Phylicia Rashad. Rashad was like Gerald McRaney, she left a lasting memory.
I agree about Baranski, however I think that both Alan Alda & Margo Martindale were not very memorable on the show, especially Martindale, her role was insufferable.
Davis is a good example of your theory, but voters know that she did more than Grier, Perkins and Burton.
Jenrette was a result of show that voters love and care about, the fact that THT went empty handed from the main ceremony does not mean that they do not care about it, it only means that they preferred other shows more.June 13, 2019 at 4:35 am #1202935581
Don’t kill me, but I could totally see Rashad getting snubbed. Just look at TIU last year: standouts Moore and Hartley couldn’t get in, they didn’t get in a single guest actress despite submitting Emmy favorites Kate Burton & Elizabeth Perkins, and Pam Grier!
All of those three did nothing, their NO-nomination is a proof that they did watched the second season, Rashad was incredible and I also think that she is winning, actors love This is us and they obviously watch the show (two SAG ensamble wins), Moore and Hartley absence can be easily explained since both of them have had very questionable careers before that, it may be prejudices.May 23, 2019 at 2:01 am #1202905365
The Globes have nominated Catriona Balfe 4 times in a row, they also rewarded Joanne Froggatt for the forth season of Downton, then they nominated her again for the fifth season, so they do whatever they want, if they feel like it, they are going to keep nominating Moss until the end of the show.