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August 16, 2019 at 4:38 pm #1203027056
I remember how Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series was the category when Emmy voters used to spread the wealth – 4 different actors from “The West Wing” winning and no repeat winners between 1996 and 2012 was pretty inspired but then Peter Dinklage and Aaron Paul became perennial favorites and have won Emmys that could really go to Giancarlo Esposito, Josh Charles, David Harbour, Jonathan Banks or Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. What I wanna say, Banks losing for the first season of “Better Call Saul” means that submissions are no longer watched and therefore Peter Dinklage wins again.
Stop making Liza Weil happen. She’s not going to happen.
Disagree, this theory has to stop. Voters have proven many times that they watched what they nominate. Aaron Paul was the best based on tapes for all of his wins.
Dinklage is incredibly and even inexplicably adored by the Academy, while Banks is the person that they love to nominate just so he can see how he is going to lose multiple times. The vote for Dinklage when they don’t like no one else.
I agree about Liza Weil though 😀August 16, 2019 at 4:32 pm #1203027047
It seems like Billy Porter is going to win, but can I hear why? I know he’s the frontrunner, but I don’t know a lot about his show, such as how well received it was, what kind of reviews he got, and if people believe it has enough industry support. I just want to know more before I give him my top spot.
If you read my post and also Riley’s post on this same thread you will see how prestigious and acclaimed are both the show and Porter since the TCA are only one real awards for TV that are voted by critics and they reflect very well with their general opinion as a whole.August 16, 2019 at 4:27 pm #1203027041
Darling, why are you so embittered? Of course, your Prime Minister knows Fosse/Verdon wasn’t eligible and Fatty Arquette’s sweep was before it aired but I think she’s the frontrunner because she’s won every single award that matters (TCA don’t really matters). You talk like an authoritarian communist for God’s sake. Thatcher always has her own and holy opinion.
You contradict yourself, if you understand that Williams was not eligible, why you keep using this example. Williams can win GG, SAG and CC this fall… Also, TCA is more relevant than CC and GG. And the most relevant are the Emmy itself where F/V has more nominations than Dannemora and Sharp Objects, so you do not have a real argument.August 16, 2019 at 4:24 pm #1203027035
If Game of Thrones doesn’t win for cinematography this year, I will be immensely disappointed.
I would say that more than half of those beautiful gifs shows why it needs to win Visual effects, not cinematography, THT is going to win that very deservedly IMO, I could be wrong, we will see.August 16, 2019 at 4:22 pm #1203027032
Please stop being so condescending. No one thinks Lena Headey should win based on her work in season 8 alone. Since we don’t have anyone like Thandie Newton as an alternative, we think she should be rewarded for her spectacular work in the whole show. Headey fans won’t attack you unless you use irrelevant polls to diminish her performance.
Completely untrue, you just have to read other comments from her fans…
Also, for you everything that shows how unpopular Headey is outside this forum is irrelevant, I wonder what that is…August 16, 2019 at 8:07 am #1203026392
Darling, stay woke. Sharp Objects and Escape at Dannemora were more popular in the industry, especially Fatty Arquette, who has won GG, CC and SAG and is probably sweeping. I’d choose Sharpy Adams, but Arquette is the frontrunner.
Darling, you should stay woke and learn some facts before make supposedly funny comments. Fosse/Verdon was NOT ELIGIBLE since it hasn’t AIRED YET when Arquette destroyed Adams beating her on GG, CC and SAG.
For the above reason, the only way to measure the industry popularity between F/V, Dannemora and Sharp Objects are the Emmy and F/V has more nominations that the other two. So again, you are living in denial and in misinformation.
Adams will never win versus THREE vastly superior performances – Williams, Arquette and King. Make the effort to watch ALL the shows before commenting.August 16, 2019 at 8:00 am #1203026375
I remain baffled by that nomination, so I think not, although there are some people who will vote the This is Us ticket and This is Us has proved to be good at winning pluralities with actors, so I have him fourth. I have Giancarlo Esposito ranked last, as they snubbed him just last year, so Jonathan Banks should be solidly ahead. It could be Michael Kelly in the runner-up position. I really thought that voters would ditch him for the final season like they did Jim Carter, but he held on despite the terrible season, so he must have a good level of industry respect at this point. He would be the challenger to Peter Dinklage with the House of Cards series finale being his showcase.
He did not had the material last year, he has it this year, so this is not relevant, it only shows that voters are paying much stronger attention to the performances they nominate in the last years. I do not think that Esposito can take votes from Banks though, he couldn’t take votes from Paul when they were closer as quality in their performances, this season has been much stronger for Banks.
Also, the Chris Sullivan hate is another Gold Derby trending that is not popular outside of the forum, he had his best season, he has an incredible tape and he could have won based on tapes. He was great and very different in The Knick, a show that has fan base in the industry. He definitely has a chance.August 16, 2019 at 7:37 am #1203026312
The thing about Rashad and Lange is that they do those performances in their sleep. They have played characters like that (Lange literally reprised a role from an earlier season) and will continue to play characters like that.
This season’s iteration of Melisandre was something we had never seen from van Houten. You really see the weight of the end of the world behind her eyes in every scene she’s in. It captivated me in a way no other performance in the category did. I watch a lot of fantasy and you honestly won’t find many better performances than this in any fantasy (film or TV), particularly from a magical character. So that has to factor into the conversation.
Agree about Houten and Lange, but not about Rashad, she did A LOT in this episode, she played the character in the present time and also a version of it from 20 years ago, she showed very different versions of it, she made a strong impressions, fans want to see her again, she is the best and deserves to win.
Michael Angarano is incredible and I think that he will win, the age bias is a thing that is no longer relevant and should not be used as an argument. And if there are other people like me that have watched The Knick, he was a co-lead there, they would know that is versatile as well. Same thing goes for Chris Sullivan (he played the full opposite of Toby there).August 16, 2019 at 6:02 am #1203026193
I have seen all the male tapes with the exception of Bateman and I think that Brown, Odenkirk, Porter and Ventimiglia are equally deserving.
But I am going to give you a 100% proved tip for your predictions. During the last four year TCA have become deservingly female centric, this made the voters to select only the best male performances, for that reason ALL the male nominees from TCA have won an Emmy after that:
2017-2018 – It was when Keri Russell won, Matthew Rhys and Darren Criss were the only male nominees, both won the Emmy after that.
2016-2017 – It was when Carrie Coon won, Sterling K. Brown was the only male nominee, he won the Emmy after that.
2015-2016 – It was when Sarah Paulson won, the situation was trickier, but confirms my theory even more, the category was not that female centric, however, Courtney B. Vance and Rami Malek were nominated and after that both won the Emmy (exactly like Criss and Rhys). The other two male nominees – Bryan Cranston and Bob Odenkirk could not have won, since they lost to Vance and Odenkirk respectively. Still, their nominations here meant a lot, Odenkirk is a perennial nominee and a favorite of the acting branch, while Cranston and his work on All the way were the LAST really respected TV movie nomination and also made his surprise victory at SAG (again, the LAST victory by a TV movie) less shocking since it was a warning about it.
So, this year – 2018-2019 – Michelle Williams won and Billy Porter was the only male nominee, so it is pretty clear that he is winning.August 16, 2019 at 5:27 am #1203026159
Golden Globes are irrelevant regarding Billy Porter’s chances of winning, considering their winner wasn’t even nominated.
Praise be! Another great comment, you are my champion here!
The delusion with Madden is crazy. NO ONE from all three acting branches likes Madden, he was snub everywhere, Bafta preferred newcomer Chance Perdomo and theatre actor Lucian Msamati in front of him, while SAG preferred a supporting player like Joseph Fiennes and an action TV star like John Krasinski in front of him. And do not star with the stupid theory about the supposed hate towards beautiful male actors since there are a lot hotties nominated in all three industry awards (Emmy, BAFTA and SAG).
The critical acclaim toward Madden is also non-existent, he was snub at TCA and he was nominated at Critics Choice, but Diego Luna for Narcos was nominated with him, so the relevancy from that nomination is ZERO. Of course, acting royalty Matthew Rhys won.
Billy Porter has an actual Industry support (yes, he was also snubbed at SAG, was ineligible for BAFTA, but it is present at the Emmys) and a MUCH BIGGER critical support (present at both Critics Choice and TCA, constantly praised by critics).
Billy Porter is force of nature and he is coming to collect, probably in a very fashion and exuberant dress, so even better.August 16, 2019 at 5:01 am #1203026149
Yeah I don’t understand why this poll would be more irrelevant than GD’s. I don’t think Headey is the predicted winner anywhere but in this forum.
Amen! Best comment in the entire thread. And Headey’s fans attacking and insulting all the sites and all the people that vote on them for having Headey ALWAYS LAST is super cringe. The VAST MAJORITY of GoT viewers are not impress with Headey and there is no need for you to clarify that they are not Emmy voters, because is irrelevant and obvious, but guess what, those polls many times are in line with voters opinions, many times they are not, so is interesting to discuss them, but some people make it impossible by being condescending towards them in a very, I repeat, cringe way.August 16, 2019 at 4:45 am #1203026129
Porter has not won anything for Pose, actually that show hasn’t anything either and for being a period Drama it underperform pretty badly with nominations. I don’t know where the so calles buzz come from because it ain’t from the industry. That show couldn’t even win a Golden Globe.
Game of Thrones couldn’t even win a Golden Globe either, but unlike Pose, it couldn’t do it for 7 seasons (I know that Dinklage has 1, but this is very ridiculous since we are comparing a small and niche show like Pose to the biggest show in the world) and it will deservingly win 0 Golden Globes for season 8. Emmy and Globes are not the same thing.August 16, 2019 at 4:29 am #1203026111
Darlings, I know literally nobody who watches Fosse/Verdon. Fatty Arquette or Sharpy Adams are winning.
Darling, no one watched Mad Men and Breaking Bad during their first seasons, but both won 3 Emmys at the MAIN category (lead actor, writing and drama series). And many others at the creative arts ceremony. The only important group of people that needs to watch the shows are people in the Industry and they have watched Fosse/Verdon. Your delusion on who is watching made you all underestimate This is us, it is time for you to understand that all the nominees in the Programs categories are equally watched by the Academy.August 16, 2019 at 2:07 am #1203026070
I must have missed that. I know that he says “s’all good, man” again at the end, but I thought that it was just another chapter in the progression.
Riley, no offence, but you have been a little bit off lately, you have missed a lot more than that. The title says a lot and is not accidental, it ends the main storyline this season. It also refers to the beautiful and haunting opening in which Jimmy and Chuck sing “The Winner Takes It All”. So, this is known as “the episode where Jimmy finally gets to practice law again with the help of huge cons and lies”, or as “the one where Mike has to kill the first friend that he has had in years” or as “the episode where Jimmy becomes officially Saul Goodman and changes officially his name as a lawyer”.
The episode is also the second highest rated episode on IMDB of the entire show with the impressive 9.6 score.August 16, 2019 at 1:52 am #1203026060
The entire season was amazing, for me the only weak episode was the second one, especially June’s storyline with the burial of the Martha. All the rest were beyond amazing and full of risks, the best quality of THT is that does not write his episodes on base of what fans want unlike other shows…
Here are two of the Facebook comments with more than 1000 likes on the official page of the show, they express how I felt during the finale better that I would ever put it in words:
” It was phenomenal. 😍I was thrilled that Serena and Fred finally got what they deserved. I was so excited with June and her bravery. She knew she had to sacrifice herself in order to save the children. The writers, producers and entire acting team deserve awards. Can’t wait for season four.”
“I blubbered when sweet little “I’ve known you for 13 seconds” Rebecca found her dad. And when Rita touched free ground. And when Rita told Luke it was his June. And when Luke didn’t see Hannah. And when Moira was so shellshocked at all the kids on the plane. And when the Handmaids and Martha’s came to help June throw rocks. And when the Handmaids came to carry June to safety. Basically I cried about 100x more than that baby on the plane.
So. Fucking. Good.
I think the finale, was hands down, one of the best episodes of the series.
Not the season, the series.”
Season 3 is going to dominate next year’s Emmys.