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January 27, 2020 at 1:41 pm #1203315042
And you really think comparing a rapist and a drug addict,its isnt a ridiculous comparaison ??? why its direspectful to call Kobe a rapist but not Weinstein ??
Omg. I’m sorry but if you can’t see the difference between Kobe and Weinstein, then I don’t know what to tell you. And for the 100th time, I’m saying it’s disrespectful to call Kobe a rapist on the day of his death because his family lost their husband/father/daughter/sister. Stop trying to twist my words or misinterpret what I’ve been saying for hours now.January 27, 2020 at 1:27 pm #1203315004
By that logic, we have no right to question if someone calls Spacey or Weinstein their hero (I know that’s like the extreme case but you get my point) because that is personal to them. This isn’t a case of someone calling some Kardashian their hero, where I might obviously disagree but have no right to try to take an issue with that as you said. The logic you are using becomes faulty when it goes beyond people like that.
I mean, I don’t know if your familiar with Kobe but he literally is like the top 5 most beloved people in LA of all time. I’m not even going to comment in regards to the Spacey and Weinstein thing because that’s just a ridiculous comparison. It’s objectively clear that Kobe has had an overwhelmingly more positive effect on more people than he has negative. Should people not idolize Whitney because of her drug addiction? Or MJ?January 27, 2020 at 12:49 pm #1203314913
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you are really trying to minimize the case. yes we all have “skeletons in our closets” no we arent all rapist and if your friend or your hero is a rapist im sorry but you are a bad person. What about the rape victim ?People call her rapist an hero ,its respectful? You want to be respected ? just dont rape its not that hard. Calling a rapist a rapist isn’t direspectful
I’m literally not trying to minimize it. If anything, you’re trying to maximize it acting as though he can only be known as a rapist or something. As for the hero thing, you’re calling a lot people bad people then lmao.
But yeah, this time I’m really done talking about this because, even though I played basketball all my life, Kobe wasn’t my favorite player or some I looked up to. I just feel terribly for his family and think Wood’s comments were extremely distasteful and disrespectful, as she would never say such a thing in person to his wife or kids. That’s all.January 27, 2020 at 12:24 pm #1203314859
Anyway, I think you’ve made your stance perfectly clear now when you are actually angry at me for taking an issue with a rapist being called a hero.
Lmao. I literally didn’t say that. It’s just wild to me that you think you could, or even have the right to, change someone’s perception of someone else. If someone calls a person their hero, that is personal to them. They aren’t saying that he’s your hero too. This has gone so off track though. My whole issue in the first place was Wood not having respect for Kobe’s family and friends by tweeting what she did on the day of his death. That’s all. I still think it’s wrong and I won’t be convinced otherwise.January 27, 2020 at 12:20 pm #1203314851
When is it time, though? His rape case is very much a part of his legacy.
How about after his family and friends have actually buried him? I think sometimes people forget that these celebrities are human too. And I don’t just mean Kobe Bryant. His wife and children have been in the public eye for a majority, if not their whole life. Put yourself in their situation. If that was your husband or your father, how would you want people to talk about him or treat him on the day he died? We convince ourselves too easily that these people cannot see or hear what we’re saying. They can. I just think it’s very easy to not saying anything if you don’t have anything good to say, just out of respect for his family and friends. And it’s like I said before, we all have skeletons in our closet.January 27, 2020 at 11:54 am #1203314809
And what about respecting the victim? When you have public figures like Laura Dern calling him an ‘iconic hero’, there needs to be said something. But because it’s people’s favourite athlete, it doesn’t matter apparently. Rape has a lifelong impact on the victim and Wood understands that, more than most people from the looks of it. She isn’t saying that he shouldn’t be mourned, she’s just advocating against projecting him as some sort of hero which is what’s going on and that’s what’s wrong because you are in a way trivialzing what he did. But apparently sexual assault is abhorrent when it’s convenient for people.
Oh, please. You cannot sit here and dictate who is someone’s hero and how much a person meant to someone. And the respect for the victim? Where did Wood voice that? Her tweet literally reads as “hey, I know something horrible happened and it’s devastating for the families but Kobe was a rapist as well as a sports hero.” But hey, if you’re not mourning or upset over the situation that’s fine! But it’s just disrespectful to the people who are to somehow try to invalidate their feelings because they’re upset over someone who was accused of being a rapist. I just hope that when someone you view as a hero, or a friend, or what not passed away, which I hope won’t be for a long time, you keep the same energy you have now if they have skeletons in their closest (which we all do). So if someone tries to bring that up, you can’t go back on what you’re saying now.
Anyway, I’m done speaking on this in this thread.January 27, 2020 at 11:33 am #1203314760
I think that you missed the point of her tweet, i.e. that she has conflicting feelings.
Really? Because it reads to me that she wants to remind people or inform them, if they didn’t know, about Kobe’s allegations/case. She knows her platform. She knows the reactions that tweet would spur.January 27, 2020 at 11:05 am #1203314700
Would you say the same thing if he was a normal person without any talent? she doesnt have to respect a rapist
Oh, and what about respecting the family he left behind? Or what about respecting his daughter who died? If she doesn’t respect him, then don’t tweet about his death in the first place. Tweet about his innocent daughter who was killed at 13 years old. Tweet about how devastated she is for his wife who lost her entire world and has to somehow move on and raise her three other daughters, one of which she literally had last summer. Her claiming she is heartbroken for his family and then immediately calling him rapist completely negates those “well-wishes.”January 27, 2020 at 10:38 am #1203314628
I’m sorry but Evan Rachel Wood said nothing wrong. It’s tragic what happened but the amount of people out there acting like he was one of the greatest person alive is appalling. She said what needed to be said. I wonder if people would be as forgiving with other rapists?
Nope. I don’t know how people are fine with this. Would she say the same thing if she was offering her condolences to Kobe’s family in person? No she wouldn’t. There is a time and place for everything and this simply (and obviously) is not the time or place. I also would bet money that she has never spoken out about Kobe’s case until yesterday. A father died along with his daughter in an unspeakable tragedy. A wife lost her husband and daughter and three girls lost their father and sister. If she can’t be respectful on the day of their deaths, then she shouldn’t have said anything. That’s the bottom line. Not to mention, she’s worked with Woody Allen. So, yeah.January 27, 2020 at 8:03 am #1203314309
Also, Evan Rachel Wood’s comment is absolutely disgusting. I’m so tired of people trying to come across as “woke” every second of every day. There is a time and place for it. Contrary to how she may feel, there’s a whole world out there who adored Kobe Bryant, the basketball player and the person, and are mourning his loss. It’s even more disgusting when it’s known that his teenage daughter was also killed. Not to mention, she’s trying to throw feminism in your face, which I fully support, but she’s also talking about someone’s wife who just lost her husband AND daughter in the same morning. Show some respect or don’t say anything at all. I definitely won’t be supporting or rooting for her in anything she does in the future. I hope Vanessa Bryant and his three other daughters find the strength to get through this unimaginable tragedy and to be able to turn their head to senseless and selfish people like Evan Rachel Wood.January 27, 2020 at 7:55 am #1203314289
Aniston is a lock for a nomination. And she’s competitive for the win.January 27, 2020 at 7:48 am #1203314264
So far the only Sundance film I could see going all the way is Minari. The Father hasn’t premiered yet but I’m also expecting that to be an acting play for Hopkins and possibly Colman, if her role is beefed up a little. Four Good Days, Worth and Ironbark all disappointed.January 24, 2020 at 11:37 am #1203302616
Given the fact that The Crown’s won two acting Emmys already, I think it’s safe to say that enough actors will have watched the entire season.
I mean, it won for Foy who was a powerhouse in every episode and Lithgow who’s a beloved veteran and was literally playing Churchill. Both had a lot more to do than HBC did this season.January 24, 2020 at 11:35 am #1203302605
This looks amazing, and gorgeously shot. Kidman and Sutherland both look fantastic. I hope Jupe has a lot to do too.January 24, 2020 at 6:16 am #1203302097
I thought Helena Bonham Carter was good on The Crown but I don’t think they’re going to reward her when she’s basically only in two episodes.
This. She was very, very good in those two episodes, but do we know if all voters even watched the whole season? If they didn’t, they literally would only see her do actual, substantial work in one episode. I still think a nomination is 100% deserved because her work in those two episodes is amazing. I think I liked her more than Colman even. O’Connor was still the MVP.