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November 2, 2019 at 4:01 pm #1203163346
Driver has the better release date, and The Rise of Skywalker press will get a lot of exposure in the perfect time for voting. Driver and his team will surely make sure his Oscar chances are brought up during his interviews and junkets for TROS.
Joaquin gives easily the showiest performance, which doesn’t always win, but with Malick, Oldman and Leo, the academy does love showy performances. Allegedly Driver has some really bait scenes, but I’d still classify him in the Affleck camp.
And I have no idea what some people are talking about– the film bros are OBSESSED with Joker, as if it’s The Godfather or something. Which is very odd as none of the people with whom I discuss film in real life like Joker at all. The sect on twitter that despises it is the fake woke people, not film twitter.
Sometimes I wish the Goldderby team would create separate posts; some for the stans, and some for the people who actually wish to discuss award season reasonably.October 23, 2019 at 5:41 pm #1203149843
Tonight is the night where we get to see if Gerwig is really making it in or not. Ive been skeptical about Bong Joon-Ho, but after seeing Parasite he deserves a nomination very much. Still have Gerwig in over him though.
As we are talking about Ford v Ferrari, I don’t see Disney doing a huge campaign for it. Jojo Rabbit has its buzz already, and Disney is pushing Avengers as well. I think FvF may not get campaign attention.October 9, 2019 at 6:12 pm #1203130097
Wow, they banned Sasha? seriously? the main thread is filled with mindless standing and they ban one of GD’s most prominent posters?
anyway, onto best actress. Y’all love to bring up Austin Powers when discussing Jay Roach, but praise Todd Philips and Joker. Additionally, Bombshell has not debuted yet. why are we believing these posters who say Charlize isn’t good? I find it awfully coincidental that we have multiple people on here that went to ‘test screenings’…….October 7, 2019 at 5:25 pm #1203126678
Why are we pretending the idea that society can breed monsters is super deep? It’s not new, its not deep, and this film didn’t do anything groundbreaking like the stans say.
If it took Joker for you to understand such an obvious truth that society treats people poorly and can shape people’s decisions, you should probably not be on a film analysis forum.
But then, there’s this idea that Arthur isn’t responsible at all. I know this wasn’t the intended message of the film, but it can definitely be seen in that light. His first murders were self defense, his next few murders (talkshow host, mother, fake girlfriend) were in revenge due to their mistreatment of him. I’m sorry, but being the butt of a joke is not a murder-worthy offense. Even if society sucks, even if people are rude, that is not a valid response. Nor is (presumably) killing Zazie Beets’ character because “aww man women don’t like him.” Yes, that is unfortunate. Yes, if things were more positive in his life he probably would not have turned out this way, but in my opinion, the film does not really place any culpability in Arthur himself.
Thus, despite not being the intention, it isn’t hard to view this movie as: all blame on society and Joker is the true victim, and that’s just simply incorrect and very very problematic.October 5, 2019 at 11:06 am #1203122663
People now try to use Cinemascore to predict Oscar?
People are using Cinemascore to gauge rough audience perception which is extremely important in cases of controversial picks. Let’s say Jojo Rabbit gets a D Cinemascore, that means audiences don’t want it, its critic scores show critics don’t want it, thus it will not be nominated.
The conversation right now is Joker, which lacks the critical praise to get in on that alone. Many times in the past, movies with mixed (albeit often not as mixed as Joker, but mixed nonetheless) reviews have overcome that due to impressive box office, intense fan-support, cultural impact or some other alternative factor. Joker could fit into that category, but a B+ doesn’t do that. A B+ shows this film is indeed divisive critically as well as commercially.October 5, 2019 at 9:47 am #1203122575
Judy finally came to my town this weekend, and I have to say: why didn’t Rene try to gather a better crew for this? her performance was next level great, but she is the only good thing about that movie. Boring directing, mediocre script, not particularly imaginative period set or costumes, no supporting performances, etc. Without spoilers, that ending left a lot of content to the imagination. Rene could have been the easy winner if the movie was better, but as it stands, I will still predict Scarlett.
Just for some thought: Cinemascore. Suicide Squad B+. Batman V Superman B. It Chapter 2 B+. Bohemian Rhapsody A. Ad Astra B-. Rambo Last Blood B. Avengers Endgame A+. Midsommar C+. Hereditary D+. The Blind Side A+. justice League B+
B+ is not a good Cinemascore.October 4, 2019 at 10:19 am #1203121225
OUATIH had one grotesque violent scene. Joker would have to be stripped to the bones to air in China. Stop bringing up RT and IMDB fan-scores, Joker had 12 thousand 10s on IMDB weeks ago. DC fans hype up their films, that is what fandoms do. People who are skeptical about a movie don’t go to see it on Thursday night premieres. I expect the Cinemascore to be very telling of the audience’s actual perception of Joker.
Y’all scoff and laugh at anybody who dares invoke Avengers Endgame, which at this point will definitely get in before Joker, yet still insist that Joker is happening, to such an extent that you end up sounding like the fanboys.
A billion dollars?! are you serious? do you even know how box office works? Deadpool 2 is the current highest-grossing R-rated film and it only got 785. It far outpaced Joker’s thurs night numbers, and once the weekend numbers come in, you will see it outperform Joker there too. 600 would be a blessing for Joker.October 3, 2019 at 6:41 pm #1203120189
You guys need to realize that people don’t simply have it out for Joker. It seems as though half the posters here are dead-set on Joker being the greatest film of all time and anyone who doesn’t agree is a delusional conspiracy theorist. Many of the reviewers have some really valid criticisms. I’ve defended the movie from (what I thought was) stupid controversy at least twice in this thread now, but having just seen it, I definitely understand why people dislike it. I will not spoil, but it is thematically… problematic.
Comparing it to BR is ludicrous. This is an insanely controversial superhero movie, with highly mixed reviews. BR was a crowd pleasing Queen movie that had mixed reactions. One makes people fear violence, the other makes people sing Queen. AND BR was one of the worst BP nominees ever, we should not be heralding it as some beacon of hope for meh films.October 1, 2019 at 2:13 pm #1203116286
Since we are talking about Meryl, were those rumors of her playing a hispanic woman in the Laundromat true? because that definitely would take that movie out of contention (not that it will or is favored to get any nominations, but people thinking Streep would make it in need to stop if they’re true.)
The people with one month old profiles are always the most vile. Stop making GoldDerby so toxic please. Seriously, these forums are being flooded with new stan accounts / accounts that solely bash people’s posts, and it is getting very annoying for those of us who just want to have discussion about film. If you want to mindlessly stan, or be rude to anyone and everyone, go to the Music Forum, or better yet, another website.September 29, 2019 at 1:33 pm #1203112392
Laughing that people seriously think there’s more than 2 locks in this category. Johansson and Zellweger are currently the only 2 locks. The next 2 most likely are Theron and Ronan. Next teir being Awkwafina, Lupita, Alfre, and that’s it. Both Ronan and Theron (even though I predict both will get in) have big chances of not materializing.
Where are people getting the idea that Alfre has a lot of buzz? Where? The only place I see buzz for her is in this thread with posters saying how she deserves a spot even though she will be snubbed. That’s not buzz, it’s wishful thinking. However, I will stan Alfre, her Emmy snubs for Luke Cage were absolute sins.
My preferred lineup (in order): Scarlett Johansson, Charlize Theron, Alfre Woodard, Awkwafina, Lupita Nyong’o.
Actual lineup (in order): Scarlett Johansson, Rene Zellweger, Charlize Theron, Saoirse Ronan, AwkwafinaSeptember 28, 2019 at 8:48 pm #1203111172
I will stan Zhou the entire season, though I do not think she will actually happen. Instead we are getting another Streep cameo nomination. Dern is always exceptional. I still don’t think Lopez’s performance is worthy of anything, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn’t like to see her get nominated. The title “academy award nominee” Jennifer Lopez makes me laugh just thinking about it. I’d really like Pugh to get in because she was so deserving in Midsommar but she has 0% chance for that, so maybe pull a Vikander here. I really love Smith and Bates and both of those actresses can DELIVER. Plus Margot is always good too.
Theres a good list of 5 here, but I do not believe the academy will choose the correct ones.September 28, 2019 at 3:38 pm #1203110761
Since The Irishman has finally been screened, does that mean the only real contenders left are 1917, Little Women, Bombshell, and maybe the Clint Eastwood film? Do we know when these films will debut to critics/festivals?September 28, 2019 at 10:23 am #1203110387
I don’t think people are saying there will be a female nominee to ‘fill a quota’ I think we are predicting a female nominee because this year has been very monumental for female filmmakers. ABDITN, Little Women, and The Farewell rank very high in our predictions. And even though Hustlers, Harriet, Booksmart, and some other female directed films may be non-factors now, they all had buzz. Last year there wasn’t a female-directed frontrunner, so none were nominated, and even then there was a lot of controversy. This year we have 3 female directed front-runners (for BP nominations that is.) So any of their nominations would be deserved, not just a quota, simply by the fact they have best picture frontrunners.
However, this may get into some controversial territory, but I believe true equality in filmmaking would be nominating whoever regardless of any trait. You have some people citing “gender quotas” or “race quotas” because of all the backlash the academy receives for not nominating members of these communities. If that backlash didn’t exist, in their eyes, these ‘quotas’ would not exist. Politics are one of the biggest factors in award season, and currently identity politics is very prevalent in America.
Let’s think a couple years ago, when Greta Gerwig upset Guadagnino and McDonagh, whose films were widely considered bigger frontrunners than Lady Bird was. The Globes nominated 5 men, Portman made that (in)famous remark, and I genuinely think that the backlash affected the Academy, and luckily they had a very well directed major contender in Lady Bird. This is, of course 100% speculation. But even when the academy did nominate Gerwig, Emma Stone made her own comments patronizing the male nominees, in my opinion turning what could have/and should have been a resounding win for female filmmakers into an identitarian mess.
Then in 2019, no women were nominated, and all of a sudden you have hordes of people coming out saying Marielle Heller was top 5, even though her movie was not lauded for its direction, and it failed to get a Picture nomination. (By the way, she was better than McKay, whose nomination proves how political the academy can be, but she did not out-direct Cooper who was also snubbed.)
Which brings us back to now, with Heller, Gerwig, and Wang (presumably) all bringing worthy directing skill to movies that will probably be represented across the board. Not having a single one of them nominated would be worthy of criticism. Especially when people have Bong or Waititi in, who have never been academy darlings.September 26, 2019 at 7:00 pm #1203106832
This season is literally NOT getting any acting nomination. It’s entertaining tho.
While I agree, it’ll be back in limited next year. Adina randomly got in for Cult. What are we looking at for limited series next year? This year’s nominees were so good.September 26, 2019 at 6:36 pm #1203106736
I was made fun of for saying Joker may be too controversial for nominations… oh well.
I thought that controversy would be more “incel masterpiece” than “mass murder inspiration” though. Dumb argument either way, and is incredibly unfair to the filmmakers and non-demented film fans. I do not think this will affect Phoenix, but it could definitely not get picture or screenplay.
On to The Irishman, gotta say I’m really excited to see it, but I’m also going to go in without high expectations. The length is just too much and some of the CGI is horrid! seriously captain marvel’s se-aging was a masterpiece compared to this.