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September 13, 2019 at 5:33 pm #1203073723
I say this as someone who loves Fleabag and Russian Doll and The Good Place to death. It’s a stacked field, but ratings don’t freaking matter: critics do.September 13, 2019 at 5:23 pm #1203073712
It’s a youtube premium reject with a 76 metascore, which is great score but let’s not act like it’s undeniable, especially against something like Fleabag and PWB. And the ratings are beyond abyssal.
83% on RT, and yes some critics thought the whole show didn’t end well since they had it all for advance review (it’s not a Youtube reject, Youtube got rid of all its original programming and Showtime bought this series from them). The important thing is that literally every single review said Kirsten Dunst was phenomenal in it (the criticism apparently is for the last 2 eps? I dunno, haven’t seen them yet). But it’s not buzz-less at all. I don’t know if you’ve been around the internet apart from Gold Derby lately lol but there was a huge deal on Twitter and every news website when Kirsten Dunst got her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and Reuters tweeted about it. Almost everyone I know is watching it—the same folks who watch Succession, The Righteous Gemstones, Big Little Lies. Re: ratings, nobody has a clue how any Netflix properties (especially ones like Dead to Me or Bodyguard which I only watched months after they were dropped) did in the ratings, and to be entirely honest, apart from GoT, Stranger Things and, I dunno, The Good Place, none of the shows we’re talking about are lighting the ratings on fire. Safe to say Fleabag is a much bigger cultural phenomenon, but On Becoming a God is doing pretty well with a solid fan base just based on Twitter, and if Fleabag does well, it’s because it’s more recent than Russian Doll, another cultural phenom (which I don’t think everyone watched tbh, but still) which dropped a long time back. By all accounts and evidence (seriously, watch the show if you don’t believe me) it’s a universally-acclaimed performance in a mostly critically-acclaimed show.
Now hey — I love the show, but I can’t for the life of me figure out which people watch The Kominsky Method or The Act or even The Crown and Euphoria, because I sure as hell don’t know any of them! Maybe we move in different circles?September 13, 2019 at 4:31 pm #1203073640
Does anyone outside Kirsten Dunst’s stans from this forum care about On Becoming God in Central Florida? No shades but serious question. It’s completely buzzless. I’m not sure HFPA knows it exists.
Sure, Jan. I guess all those critics mean not a darn thing, but mmkay.September 13, 2019 at 4:30 pm #1203073634
BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA
2. The Crown
3. The Morning Show
4. Big Little Lies
5. Stranger Things
ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES
1. Billy Porter – POSE
2. Jeremy Strong – SUCCESSION
3. Tobias Menzies – THE CROWN
4. Forest Whitaker – GODFATHER OF HARLEM
5. Sterling K. Brown – THIS IS US
ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES
1. Olivia Colman – THE CROWN
2. Nicole Kidman – BIG LITTLE LIES
3. Jennifer Aniston – THE MORNING SHOW
4. Sandra Oh – KILLING EVE
5. Jodie Comer – KILLING EVE
BEST TELEVISION SERIES – COMEDY
2. Russian Doll
3. The Good Place
4. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
5. On Becoming a God in Central Florida
ACTOR IN A COMEDY SERIES
1. Bill Hader – BARRY
2. Michael Douglas – THE KOMINSKY METHOD
3. Paul Rudd – LIVING WITH YOURSELF
4. Ted Danson – THE GOOD PLACE
5. Theodore Pellerin – ON BECOMING A GOD IN CENTRAL FLORIDA
ACTRESS IN A COMEDY SERIES
1. Kirsten Dunst – ON BECOMING A GOD IN CENTRAL FLORIDA
2. Phoebe Waller Bridge – FLEABAG
3. Natasha Lyonne – RUSSIAN DOLL
4. Rachel Brosnahan – THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL
5. Kristen Bell – THE GOOD PLACE
LIMITED SERIES OR TV MOVIE
3. Catherine The Great
4. When They See Us
5. Years and Years
ACTOR IN A LIMITED SERIES OR TV MOVIE
1. Jared Harris – CHERNOBYL
2. Mahershala Ali – TRUE DETECTIVE
3. Jharrel Jerome – WHEN THEY SEE US
4. Sam Rockwell – FOSSE/VERDON
5. Ian McShane – DEADWOOD
ACTRESS IN A LIMITED SERIES OR TV MOVIE
1. Helen Mirren – CATHERINE THE GREAT
2. Michelle Williams – FOSSE/VERDON
3. Kaitlyn Dever – UNBELIEVABLE
4. Joey King – THE ACT
5. Emma Thompson – YEARS AND YEARS
TV SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. Henry Winkler – BARRY
2. Kieran Culkin – SUCCESSION
3. Stellan Skarsgard – CHERNOBYL
4. Michael Kenneth Williams – WHEN THEY SEE US
5. Alan Arkin – THE KOMINSKY METHOD
TV SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Laura Dern – BIG LITTLE LIES
2. Meryl Streep – BIG LITTLE LIES
3. Reese Witherspoon – THE MORNING SHOW
4. Olivia Colman – FLEABAG
5. Shailene Woodley – BIG LITTLE LIESSeptember 13, 2019 at 4:01 pm #1203073598
ACTRESS IN A COMEDY SERIES
Rachel Brosnahan- The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Kirsten Dunst- On Becoming God in Central Florida
Helen Hunt- Mad About You
Natasha Lyonne- Russian Doll
Phoebe Waller Bridge- Fleabag
I’m pretty sure this will be the field (unsure about Hunt though, Kristen Bell could get in). And as stacked as the field is, I think this is Kirsten Dunst’s to lose. Waller-Bridge could take it, but Fleabag’s going all the way to Best Comedy Series & writing nods and that’s not as sure a thing for On Becoming a God in Central Florida (though not unlikely—it could easily pull a Homecoming/Bodyguard and get way more noms than I expect).August 29, 2019 at 9:03 pm #1203047894
Yeah, Dunst was great in the first two episodes of On Becoming a God. I really hope Showtime pushes her, especially at the globes to get things going. Also, the end of episode two leads me to believe she’ll have a lot more juicy material to work with the rest of the season and I’m sure she’ll deliver.
Oh, she is. Sooo much juicy material. I feel like even by the end of the 2nd I was kind of astounded by how I could only see Krystal Stubbs, not Dunst at all.August 29, 2019 at 7:53 pm #1203047250
Is it a comedy or a miniseries?
On Becoming a God in Central Florida is a comedy series, and honestly it’s really, really good. I’m a huge Dunst-stan and people doubt her here all the time, always have, but I see no way she doesn’t at the very least get a Golden Globe nomination, and possibly a win, from this, and if so then just like Fargo she’ll ride that to the Emmy’s. She is fantastic (as always) and she’s gotten immense critical acclaim for it. Also — she looks…..nothing like herself. So unafraid of looking “ugly.”
The show itself—I don’t know. It depends on the audience. I love it (seen all 10 eps), it’s everything I love in TV shows but also I’ve never seen anything like it, but it would be a hard sell, feels much more like a cult TV show than an awards player. That said, I’m pretty sure there’s more very very likely performance nods other than Dunst: Theodore Pellerin, Mel Rodriguez, Beth Ditto, and Alexander Skarsgaard are all fab. If Pellerin doesn’t get nominated it’s probably just because of lack of name recognition.
But holy hell is Dunst fucking FANTASTIC. And the show is too—highly recommend it!December 2, 2017 at 10:42 pm #1202427675
Here’s something cool: There’s a strong chance we might be looking at a group of all first-time nominees (Metcalf, Janney, Dunst, Haddish, Manville, Vinaite, Blige are all looking for their first nod). I’d love to see that happen instead of rewarding old-nominees just for the sake of it (even if Spencer gets sacrificed in the process–I’d be sad for her because she deserves it but not that sad because she just got a nod last year)December 2, 2017 at 10:37 pm #1202427672
First off, congrats to the Tiffany Haddish-fans (I’m a little late to the party but super happy for her having finally seen the movie). It just goes to show that when there’s grassroots support for something, critics do take notice, and Haddish was not being pushed for by anybody but fans.
That’s why I’m hoping Kirsten Dunst keeps getting pushed. She’s the best thing about The Beguiled by a mile, and I love the movie.
I looooove Octavia Spencer in The Shape of Water—this would be a more deserving nod than Hidden Figures, which I actually did think she deserved unlike most people. But yes, I do agree it’s looking less and less likely for her.
I too really, really don’t see what the fuss is about with Holly Hunter. Her “scene” is yelling in a bar, so…brownie points for not being a bigot? I don’t get it. Nanjiani and Romano were much better, and so was Zoe Kazan if I’m honest—Kazan really surprised me, I thought she could only do quirky Zooey Deschanel-like roles, but she’s better than that.
I don’t see Hunter as a shoo-in at all, the only shoo-ins are Metcalf and Janney and then it’s a wait-and-see, but I put Haddish in my predix because I think she might just happen. The NYFCC win is pretty huge. And Metcalf, to me, is the rightful winner.
I haven’t seen Phantom Thread so I don’t know about Manville, but she’s always great, kind of like Metcalf and Janney so I wouldn’t be too surprised if she got in, or if she got snubbed.
I don’t see her winning any critics awards though. Kristin Scott Thomas is also looking less and less likely, she’s just not going to happen. She does nothing in the film, there’s zero passionate support for her that I can see, just people putting her in because she’s in Darkest Hour. And it’s not as if Darkest Hour is sweeping anything and I doubt it will with Lady Bird, Get Out, Three Billboards, Call Me By Your Name and The Post dominating the Gothams/NYFCC/Indie Spirit Awards noms. She’s not going to get some Haddish-like boost, but I think someone like Dunst will. Sofia Coppola is making the rounds, and I think The Beguiled will pick up some passion support and that’s most likely and hopefully for Dunst.
Vinaite is one person I’d love to see in the final 5 too. She’s awesome.
Melisso Leo–eh. Again, maybe she happens maybe she doesn’t. She’s very good but she’s not as good as Julianne Nicholson and Margaret Qualley in her own movie imo. Mary J. Blige is in the same boat for me, she was very good, but it was an ensemble. Mudbound will probably win SAG Ensemble and Blige is the likeliest nominee, and she’s definitely got more passionate support than Kristin Scott Thomas or even Octavia Spencer–but let’s see. Interestingly, this looks to be the only category with multiple non-white nominees who seem likely to make it (Spencer, Blige, Haddish).
My picks are:
Laurie Metcalf–Lady Bird (win)
Allison Janney–I, Tonya
Tiffany Haddish–Girls Trip
Kirsten Dunst–The Beguiled
Octavia Spencer–The Shape of Water
Alt: Leslie Manville–Phantom Thread
I think the person most likely to make it instead of Spencer will be Leslie Manville, not Holly Hunter, because people seem passionate about her, enough to even put her at no. 1. And she probably goes toe-to-toe with DDL based on the trailer.
Also, Beanie Feldstein is awesome! Hope we get to see way more of her.November 12, 2017 at 12:10 am #1202408433
Having seen all the contenders (except Manville, Coon and the Orient Express ladies who are not happening anyway), I’d say Laurie Metcalf is pretty staunchly in the lead, with Janney the most likely upset. Bria Vinaite is coming on strong with her film being such a success, Kirsten Dunst is still getting plenty of buzz and support. Octavia Spencer is just a shoo-in. Kristin Scott Thomas and Holly Hunter are likely spoilers but they’re overshadowed by the films at large. I see the support for Leo, Blige and Hunter falling off day by day. Strong feeling that this category will be all first time nominees except Spencer.October 22, 2017 at 9:14 pm #1202245421
Substitute: Chadwick Boseman/Jamie Bell
Substitute: Frances McDormand/Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor:
Substitute: Sterling K. Brown
Best Supporting Actress:
Laurie Metcalf & Kirsten Dunst equally, although Metcalf’s is the best performance I’ve seen all year in any category (including Best Actress).October 11, 2017 at 11:44 pm #1202235347
If philanthropy towards feminist causes alone qualifies a rich person to be a strong feminist whose brand of feminism cannot be questioned, then we’re all in big, big, big trouble.October 11, 2017 at 2:43 pm #1202235037
That’s what I’m referring to, JLaw, Meryl, Judi, and Kate did send their support to the women. Just because you’re skeptical that they didn’t know doesn’t make their condemnation and support not count. That’s it. You also can’t deny that Meryl’s statement led to the others, nobody seems to want to admit that.
You know who also sent “support to the women”? A lot of men who are undoubtedly complicit. Obviously I’m not arguing Meryl Streep is complicit as well but even at the level of just a statement of support which was, even at the time Meryl issued hers, expected,her response was not enough. She’s not taking names and holding people responsible nor does she seem to have any genuine interest in doing so, let’s be honest here.October 11, 2017 at 1:35 pm #1202235002
Every woman who has spoken out said they support the women who spoke out, you know that.
My comment had more to do with women who claimed they had no idea which I, like many others on this board, don’t believe for one second. Maybe JLaw didn’t know if she never experienced the casting couch phenomenon because she’s oh-so-talented-and-the-second-coming, but definitely not veterans like Streep, Dench and Winslet. These past few days have been like whiplash for me: actresses I don’t particularly like, like Jessica Chastain or Amber Tamblyn, have risen immensely in my esteem because of they’re not pussyfooting or being tepid in their responses. Actresses I’ve always respected gave me even more reasons to respect them: Ashley Judd, Rose McGowan, Asia Argento.
I have to say, with respect to the Oscar race, I think I probably am being more idealistic than you, Teridax, but I think one thing for me is clear: female directors have had a banner year (I think Coppola got pretty awesome reviews and then some backlash yes, but she won at Cannes and the rave reviews are pretty raving). Either way, Greta Gerwig and Dee Rees (and Coppola, for me) undeniably deserve nods, and part of that has been for me, the conversation that actresses have been having for years, that working with female directors is safer and less exploitative of them (Dunst said it many, many times about Coppola and how she was only comfortable being sexualized on the set of The Virgin Suicides because Sofia was so protective of her, and many others have said similar things). This is not just about actresses, it’s also about women at the helm of film-making who need that goddamn boost if we’re going to encourage a safer working environment for women in the industry. I’d say if I had to choose only one, which I shouldn’t have to, it would be Gerwig because Lady Bird is a monumental achievement to me.October 10, 2017 at 10:16 pm #1202234564
Maybe I’m idealistic but yes, I do believe this will have ramifications for the Oscars, particularly for the Best Actress race. Many of the women who’ve been mentioned in these conversations are those who have benefited or not from their interactions with Weinstein, in an even more magnified fashion than #OscarsSoWhite. I truly do not believe that anyone will think for a moment that the phenomenon is restricted to Harvey fucking Weinstein. Gwyneth Paltrow won her Oscar due to Weinstein. She came forward. Jennifer Lawrence won her Oscar due to Weinstein. She was…tepid. Either way, that conversation cannot be far from a voter’s mind as they go through the minefield of “hey, what’s legitimately worthy, and what’s legitimately not?” The most obvious thing would be an upswing for female directors, like Gerwig, Jolie, Coppola, Rees etc. as it really fucking should be. Dench’s chances aren’t great anyway, Meryl’s might take a hit who knows, Winslet…let’s see, the premiere is literally in 3 days.