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April 26, 2021 at 12:37 pm #1204229802
Perhaps she was affected by a genre bias, but it’s still interested how Cynthia Erivo ended up being the only person of color in an acting category, playing a Civil Rights legend in another biopic highlighting racism. It’s obvious what caters to voters when it comes to black performances. If they could look past genre bias with a newbie like Maria Bakalova, then there’s no excuse for the Lupita snub just because she wasn’t playing a slave.
Borat 2 happened only because of RJ scene which helped Maria, Without that scene, it would have disappeared without a trace.April 26, 2021 at 12:24 pm #1204229770
This is going to hurt some feelings but I feel like Viola’s campaign and fan base hurt her. Before a trailer came out, people were saying “Viola Better win Best Actress.” People on here had to apologize before posting their opinions. Also, what did it for me was when Viola posted a letter Oprah had written her. That was so tacky, but the Violets did not allow anyone to express that. Viola can do no wrong in their eyes but the voters disagree.
You are probably right. Viola posting Oprah’s letter that read “you deserve all the accolades that are coming your way” was so wannabe. It was like she posted to tell others that if Oprah is saying I’m going to sweep, make me sweep social media & industry people.April 26, 2021 at 12:16 pm #1204229749
I think on top of everything that’s been said, Hollywood has that wrong notion that movies with black leading roles do not bring money and when they do it’s because they cater just to a black audience. Also, I don’t know if projects like that all-black cast remake of Terms of endearment that Lee Daniels wants to do or that all-black cast remake of Cat on a hot tin roof Fuqua announced this week is really the way to go. They could work but they could also be a reductive mess.
That’s So Raven was very popular is Asia and in my childhood, I never cared about the characters being black. We watched it because it was entertaining. Non-Black people like Asians, Indians etc watch and love ALL BLACK cast films and TV. Period. And these projects money and everything. Time to change the old narrative.April 26, 2021 at 12:12 pm #1204229743
Those are supporting wins. Which signals this idea that black or minorities in general are only good in supporting roles. It doesn’t help that they snubbed the most acclaimed lead role of 2019 (Lupita in Us) and gave her nomination to Cynthia Erivo (who is Brit) for yet another biopic highlighting racism.
Lupita was snubbed because of Horror bias and not because of race issue. Toni Collette is as white as you can get and she was snubbed for Hereditary too.April 26, 2021 at 12:09 pm #1204229735
The whole World is racist. Someone said it better than me: Asian and Latin Cultures hate Blacks in general. There are several studies about it.
NO. Asian and Latin people have their own social problems. You think that only Black people had to endure racial injustice in the world? Newsflash Indians, Asians, Middle easterners also faced injustice in colonial era. You come across as entitled. You expect International block to just vote for Black actors so that count of black winners can go up and not because of actual performance? Just because America’s oppressive history? White American voters will think this way. International voters won’t.
This is what I am trying to say.April 26, 2021 at 12:01 pm #1204229714
This post needs to be stickied. It’s ironic how we’ve been pushing for this, but let’s face it people, the US isn’t the whole world. As the international membership expands, we’re going to see more wins like Hopkins.
The International voters don’t owe anything to Black actors etc. The definition of diversity outside USA is very different than what its meaning is in US. In US, diversity only means Black but it’s not for whole world. All other countries have different history and they do not identify with American problems. You think that just because The Academy got diversified means now they all will vote for Black actors and make them win only. Clearly, it has gone the other way. They definitely do not think like Americans.
This is what I was trying to say. International block probably voted for Riz while either Hopkins won based on more White members in the Academy or maybe the Universal subject of The Father made the International block to vote for Hopkins.April 26, 2021 at 11:54 am #1204229688
Your points are interesting, especially when you mentioned Daniel Kaluuya because his movie was highlighting racial injustice. It helps that Daniel is not American but appeals to other branches outside of the American ones. Which is a problem in itself because it seems that these Black British actors are getting these African American roles or what would normally go African Americans and getting a ton of accolades for it.
Daniel Kaluuya gave the best performance in that category. Judas and the Black Messiah was loved by International voters. Plus British block pushed him more close to the victory. Coming to Asian, Middle eastern, European voters, they did not like the other Black films as they were strictly adhering to American problems which is same old same old. JATBM was actually loved bu international voters, who will not vote for Black actors just because they are Asian, Brown, Middles eastern as they don’t see everything from America’s perspective or what Black Twitter is saying or want.April 26, 2021 at 11:46 am #1204229663
A black woman will win a best actress oscar in 25 years time, she will be playing a former slave who is homeless, undergoing physical and sexual abuse. In the movie a white selfless blonde woman who is racist will take her in, help her and in the process the white woman will cease being racist. The black woman will be biracial – a result of her black mother being sexually abused by her white owner in the slave plantation.
OR maybe, if Hollywood starts casting Black actors in films like Black Swan, Monster, La Vien Rose, Walk The Line etc I mean anything but not a slave or black experience only film related to race. I want Black actresses to win for comedy like Annie Hall, a drama like Black Swan, a fantasy like Mary Poppins.April 26, 2021 at 11:40 am #1204229640
I am a bit confused though. Aside from Halle-Only, 2001-2006 had 3 Black Actor winners in 6 years (50%), then nothing for 14 years. So what happened there. Is the increasing international presence the awards obsessed keeps touting actually partially responsible for this backslide? I mean, look at Bafta (Ejiofor aside, but they purposefully ignored the existence of actor sweeping Dallas Buyers altogether).
YEP. I’m an Asian and trust me the problem with Americans is that they think is America is the whole world. The more diverse the Academy will get, the less Black actors will win. They will win only if they give a strong performance like Daniel Kalluya in a widely watched entertaining film. It’s because International people don’t have to worry about racism tag, they don’t identify with American problem, they have their own social problems and it’s not race for all those people. So I don’t understand why people cannot understand this. International film Roma lost as it was boring but International film Parasite won coz it was entertaining and made by an Asian and so was Nomadland.April 26, 2021 at 11:34 am #1204229605
Minorities can only win in the supporting acting categories. The lead acting categories are for white people only.
True, Gaga stole a the Best Actress nomination from Kiki Layne that year. Shouldn’t have been nominated for her singing and playing herself.April 26, 2021 at 11:29 am #1204229596
I think looking at the nominees this year, many of the nominated lead roles could have been played by somebody of any race. Riz Ahmed in Sound of Metal could have been played by somebody of any race, as could have Anthony Hopkins character in The Father, Frances McDormand in Nomadland, Vanessa Kirby in Pieces of a Woman and Carey Mulligan in Promising Young Woman. I wonder if these roles were played by Black actors that they would have received as much acclaim and awards recognition?
Well yes, seeing Viola got tons of nominations for playing herself for the 100th time.April 26, 2021 at 11:28 am #1204229589
Agreed it’s a hollywood problem in general. Just this year, look at the black nominees, three were from biopics, one was from a fictional meetup of real life people and the other two were from an august wilson play. Hard to get nominations and wins when there arent enough roles to judge.
Yet all those films were race related. As the Academy gets more diversified, the less Black actors will win for those kind of roles. Black filmmakers need to start telling 50% of stories that are normal aka not race related. International voting black does not think like American voters. They will not vote based on race to avoid racism tag, they will vote only if they like a performance.April 26, 2021 at 11:24 am #1204229574
Academy hates black lead talent. Always predict a white female to win. That is all.
This is NOT true. Here is a thing, the more diverse the Academy will get, the more less Black actors will win. In America, Diversity means only Black, largely. The international voting comprises of people from all over the world and they don’t identify with American problems. Majority of those voter’s countries have many other social problems and most of those problems is not race related. America’s obsession with race (right so cuz of horrific slave history) is NOT their problem/concern. So they might not think like American voters who sometimes forcefully make a Black actor win jus to evade racism tag. They will only vote if they really like that performance as it happened with Daniel Kalluya.April 18, 2021 at 4:45 am #1204206912
1. Regina King (did she do anything in it?)
2. Viola Davis (won only because she was overdue after just 2 noms LOL and not because of “playing herself” performance; also category fraud)
3. Alicia Vikander (Category fraud; should have won for Ex-Machina in supporting)
4. Jennifer Hudson (Oscar is an award for ACTING and NOT singing; this should have been also TOLD to AMPAS members who nominated Gaga for her playing herself in that nothing performance)
5. Judi Dench (you all know why)