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July 16, 2019 at 10:57 am #1202978604
Completely baffled by this as well! Especially when the good not great series that he and Keeley carried got a nom for series and writing???
I know, I am devastated. Come to think of it a bit more, I think 2 factors are at play. One, Bodyguard must have just barely gotten in at 8th place due to a tie. Which means it wasn’t all that wildly watched by voters, which means Madden’s outstanding performance just wasn’t seen enough. Those that have seen it might have dismissed it as a typical action hero type performance by just another handsome hunky actor.
On the same line of reasoning, I was probably completely wrong in thinking the Marvel casting buzz would surely help Madden with added good PR. General audiences obviously love Marvel films, but the industry doesn’t take them (or the actors) seriously. It’s just such a shame. I think Madden combines the perfect mix of good looks and talent, but it seems the industry can’t see past the looks part or the stereotypes. My only wish is that Madden actually does attend SDCC at the weekend and makes the BIGGEST possible splash there to make up for this travesty.July 16, 2019 at 10:37 am #1202978499
That theory should have applied to Milo and Kit too then. They were in more widely viewed series, and “Bodyguard” might have barely made it in with a tie for seventh place.
The only reason Harington was nominated is name-checking for GoT. Literally the only reason. Same could apply for Ventimiglia and This is Us, a show that voters have watched and liked for a few years now. It’s lazy voting at its finest.
But yeah I see your point. Bodyguard most likely barely made the cut in the first place, so perhaps Madden’s performance just wasn’t watched and therefore not enough voters voted for him. Same likely applies for Succession and all its actors.
Which just shows that the Emmys do not care for quality for the most part, only for what’s most popular.July 16, 2019 at 10:16 am #1202978365
Richard Madden left out?
I have always dismissed arguments like “slap the stud” as a ridiculous reason for snubs, but in this case it’s pretty much the only reason I can think of why he would miss. I am so pissed off.
Or why does anyone else think he was snubbed? A certain percentage of the Academy must have seen Bodyguard at least, it got nominated in Series and Writing after all.July 16, 2019 at 9:08 am #1202977801
I could have taken everyone, literally everyone, making it in over Madden. But not Harington. This is the most blatant, ridiculous and outrageous name check involving literally anything that says GOT on it. What a joke.July 16, 2019 at 3:59 am #1202976991
Good luck, everyone! It’s almost 4 in the morning in Los Angeles and I have to be at work in 3 hours but whatever. Fingers crossed for everyone!
Almost noon in the UK and still a few hours to go. My only consolation is that by the time the announcements have come through it’s already time for the pub. I will probably need a pint after this (or two) lol.July 16, 2019 at 3:57 am #1202976989
I loved the Bodyguard posters. Madden looks super intense and the posters are certainly attention grabbing. Why do you not like them?
They are certainly much better than the awful “Cocain Godmother” ones for poor Catherine Zeta-Jones lol.July 15, 2019 at 2:35 am #1202975393
Also, in addition to Netflix’s backing, this should bode very well for Madden:
Madden’s star has only risen, thanks to a supporting role in “Rocketman” and casting buzz in Marvel’s “The Eternals,” so betting big on “Bodyguard” seems like a smart spend.July 15, 2019 at 2:30 am #1202975388
“Ozark” and “Bodyguard” made up more than 80 percent of the streaming service’s drama ad buys, with the Jason Bateman-starrer tallying more print ads than any other program tracked — comedy or drama, across Netflix and HBO.
I have been thinking a lot about last minute changes to my predictions, but I now feel much more confident that Netflix will get 2 of their shows in. Ozark was always a lock and while Bodyguard seems more of a long shot, there is clear evidence that Netflix is pushing it hard. I think (hope!) those 2 will be just fine tomorrow in terms of noms.July 14, 2019 at 4:07 am #1202974390
As long as they call “Richard Madden” on nomination day, I am happy.
Otherwise I am rooting for:
Bodyguard and Keeley Hawes in Series and Sup. Actress
The Handmaid’s Tale: “Holly” in Cinematography and Bradley Whitford in Guest
Chernobyl: Jessie Buckley in Sup. Actress (and everything else the show could possibly get really)July 11, 2019 at 8:07 am #1202970681
You don’t think Porter will get in?
Also, I suddenly got the same feeling about Killing Eve after the discussion we have had in the other thread about some shows just being “fun” and not feeling prestigious enough. Also I think it’s not competitive for a Directing nom and without Waller-Bridge it might even be vulnerable in Writing. I am not buying Shaw either. So perhaps broad support is just not there?
At this point, I am only 100% certain about GOT, Ozark, Better Call Saul and Succession.July 10, 2019 at 1:33 pm #1202969804
All that concerns me is whether they dismiss it as not prestigious enough. Empire and The Walking Dead can attest to the Emmys not just nominating every audience hit that has good reviews.
I think this could apply more to Killing Eve than Bodyguard. The former has witty dialoge and good acting in its favour. It’s a fun show that people like. But honestly, where is the prestige? Where is the depth, the underlying message, the uniqueness factor? What does it do differently than other fun shows? I don’t know. Same applies to Jack Ryan.
Bodyguard at least has the PTSD angle and how clever that was portrayed. The journey of a tough ex-soldier turned bodyguard in denial about his extreme mental health issues to breaking down crying asking for help in the end. David Budd is not the typical action hero, like let’s say Jack Bauer in 24 who reacts to bullets flying and people getting shot in front of him steely faced and always comes out on top anyways. In Bodyguard, you see the main character afraid, tense, anxious and shell-shocked before springing to action and fullfil the more action hero type role in your typical fun action show. You don’t often see that kind of vulnerability in characters / shows like this. Indeed, only Homeland comes to mind really. And that’s were I start to get concerned – will voters think been there done that with Bodyguard?July 10, 2019 at 2:45 am #1202969142
I am very conflicted about TIU.
Pose could easily get in with the buzz it’s getting ATM (and those TCA nods), but is it too niche for Emmy voters?
I have the exact same problems for my predictions. I am close to dropping TIU and put in Pose instead, but I am not at all confident about it. The thing is, I don’t really see TIU as a threat for Writing and Directing noms and its support seems to sit only at SAG. With the diminishing passion and buzz, it just feels like it doesn’t have enough support.
Pose on the other hand, might be a viable contender in Writing and Directing. So if it gets in there, why not Series? Then again, the biggest question here is if voters have even watched it and if it has that broad of an appeal. It’s still a niche show and not an audience hit, so I am not confident in it either. I could see Pose blowing up in noms just as much as I could see a near complete snub.
The problem of course is that nobody seems to know what the hell to do with the new contenders like Bodyguard, Pose and Homecoming. To some extend even TIU.July 9, 2019 at 2:04 pm #1202968291
Honey, Krasinski could not be more mediocre in that atrocity rofl. He is not getting in.
I know, which is why Krasinski’s SAG nom is so strange. I have seen Jack Ryan and it was a fun show, but absolutely nothing of Krasinski’s performance was in any way memorable.July 9, 2019 at 1:53 pm #1202968258
It follows that Krasinski’s nomination was not some random throwaway, but a sign of much bigger things to come.
I could be wrong, but I think Krasinski’s completely random SAG nomination was name-check only. The SAG nominated The Office consistently every year between 2007 and 2013 in Best Ensemble. So Krasinski is no stranger here. Neither are the other nominees this year of Brown, Bateman, Odenkirk and even Fiennes (nominated before with THT in Best Ensemble).
However, all of the other contenders for the new dramas were snubbed: Madden and Porter would have been first time nominees and Cox hasn’t been nominated by the SAG in over 10 years.
In Madden’s and also Porter’s favour now speaks that they were the most visible contenders of them all during this campaign. Jack Ryan is definitely not Amazon’s main priority and I didn’t see Krasinski out there campaigning at all. And let’s not forget that the SAG is Krasinski’s only nomination for Jack Ryan. All of the other examples you listed (Bateman, Brown, Malek) at the very least had GG noms (if not CC noms too) and much broader support for their shows.
I doubt Krasinski gets in. Or at least I really hope not, because he would likely replace Madden and that I most definitely don’t want to see.July 8, 2019 at 6:12 am #1202965651
To be fair, it literally just happened at the BAFTAs. Madden was snubbed, got nominated for every other major award it was eligible for.
If we are taking the BAFTAs as a benchmark (which is not a good comparison) then I would like to remind everyone of the Tom Hiddleston case:
He won the GG for The Night Manager, was nominated for the National Television Award (one of the biggest award shows in the UK and a huge popularity contest – winners are voted on by the public), then was snubbed by the BAFTAs due to his growing popularity and Hollywood prospects (with few exceptions the BAFTAs tend to go for the underdog) and still went on to secure an Emmy nom. So did The Night Manager. The BAFTAs had zero influence on that.
Madden finds himself in the exact same situation now. He even won the NTA, as did Bodyguard in Best New Drama. The Emmys snubbing him, the rising star and clear lead of the show, but then nominate the show in everything including Hawes in Sup. Actress, who has zero profile and name recognition in the US (unlike with the BAFTAs), would make absolutely no sense.
Madden only misses if Bodyguard is snubbed across the board, which could happen but hopefully won’t.