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February 19, 2019 at 2:39 am #1202781297
I have almost finished watching Patrick Melrose and just wanted to share some quick thoughts.
In the first episode, I wasn’t feeling it to be honest. Don’t get me wrong, Cumberbatch did well, but I felt like he was playing a mix between Sherlock and the Wolf of Wall Street. I failed to see how this was anything new or groundbreaking from him. However, once his character got sober and started dealing with his past, Cumberbatch’s performance had much more depth to it. I can totally see why he’s gotten several nominations for awards this season. Well deserved.
I think there is a strong argument to be made about Patrick Melrose being eligible for the BAFTAs. It fulfils the co-production requirement and it premiered on the same day in the UK as in the US, I think even immediately after the US broadcast. It has a much higher chance than Killing Eve, which only premiered in the UK months after the US.
So the question is, can Cumberbatch win the BAFTA over both Madden and Grant? I think all three are locks for a nomination, but Cumberbatch had the ‘flashiest’ role of them all. I don’t know, I just can’t decide between the three or on who is going to take the 4th spot lolFebruary 14, 2019 at 4:08 am #1202775733
Re Netflix Emmy campaign: I have absolutely no idea how this BTS campaigning stuff works, I just assumed they would concentrate on one actor/show at a time, particularly in the face of a juggernaut like GOT, to raise their chances. That said, I would absolutely go for Madden:
Good point about GoT. I am just assuming that GoT will most certainly win Best Drama Series and get lots of nominations for its cast as well. Next to that, Netflix might want to get as many of their shows / stars nominated as possible for prestige effect regardless of their chances of winning. Therefore, focusing on one over the other just doesn’t make sense to me, it just narrows the field even further. But 100% agreed about Madden, if they do end up choosing to focus their campaigning on someone, he makes the most sense.
the backlash:I wrote SOME backlash. If you haven’t noticed it, good for you. I’m a masochist so I often read the culture section of the Guardian and the comments, and the hatred for the show and to a lesser extent Madden was quite sickening (in all fairness, they savaged Oh, Colman et al in almost the same way).
Oh yes, now that you mentioned it. I did read all of the Bodyguard reviews on The Guardian website back when the show aired, which I think were overwhelmingly positive. But yeah, I do remember some of the comments were awful. I didn’t pay much attention to them, though, since some of The Guardian commenters have the nasty tenancy of hating on almost everyone and everything. I think gaining the most votes / public support at the NTAs and taking home Best Drama Performance for Madden definitely trumps hate comments online lol. Anyway, I am looking forward to the RTS awards nominations which will be announced in a couple of weeks. Fingers crossed for Bodyguard/Madden/Hawes!! It will be easier to judge their chances for the BAFTAs once those nominations are out.
I thought The Crown was out?
Still no official announcement of the airdate, so not sure if it’s eligible for the Emmys or not. Until that announcement, I am keeping it on my list of predictions, though. Apparently, Goldderby was told to include The Crown when their predictions for the upcoming Emmys open, so that provides some hope.
What’s the current situation with Killing Eve? Is it still not eligible?
Not eligible for the BAFTAs I think. It says in the criteria that “for a programme to qualify for the Virgin TV British Academy Television Awards, the programme must have had the worldwide premiere transmission in the UK.” Killing Eve premiered in the US on BBC America first before becoming available to stream on the BBC iplayer in the UK. Therefore, it should only be eligible for the BAFTAs in International.
February 13, 2019 at 8:32 am #1202774547
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by Riley Chow. Reason: Merged consecutive posts
He’s got some backlash in the UK for rising above his station and as it has been pointed out, the Baftas detest popularity. He already won two big awards, while Grant and Cumberbatch so far have been totally ignored (and PM in my view is the most blatant award bait of 2018). Another interesting tidbit is that Madden was on the Bafta panel that selected the nominees for this year’s Rising Star award, which at least shows a degree of appreciation on the Academy’s part. We’ll see if that can be transformed into a nomination.
Really, there has been backlash against Madden? I didn’t see any, other than the odd comment or two from people who simply don’t like him and are annoyed that he is now appearing everywhere. And Madden is indeed appearing everywhere here in the UK, from award shows to talk shows, magazine covers, tabloids (constant Bond rumours) and now even charity events (Red Nose Day).
I get there is an argument to be made that BAFTA doesn’t usually reward that sort of thing (especially if there is huge success already in the US), but as you said why would they invite him to sit on the Rising Star panel and to be a presenter at the BAFTA film awards if they don’t appreciate his work? I just can’t imagine they would completely snub him for their television awards. Whether or not he will actually win is another story of course.February 13, 2019 at 8:12 am #1202774522
I think Netflix will have to make up their minds if they want to push Bodyguard/Madden or Ozark/Bateman for the Emmys.
Why wouldn’t Netflix simply campaign for both at the Emmy’s? They clearly did at the Globes, with a more successful outcome for Bodyguard (nominated for Best Drama Series while Ozark didn’t get in, Madden winning over Bateman in Best Drama Actor).
I don’t see why this has to be an either / or decision. There are no other male drama actor contenders Netflix could go with given The Crown is a very female centric show. Tobias Menzies would be put in supporting.February 13, 2019 at 3:53 am #1202774322
And Dinklage is winning regardless of the category he will be in and the material that he will have. And he will stay the only acting winner for the show as well, I am completely sure about it.
Agreed. A Dinklage win in supporting actor seems like GoT/HBO’s best shot at getting an acting award.
GoT will likely sweep Best Drama and the technical categories, but I just cannot see it sweeping the acting ones too. If anything, Netflix will sweep there with Coleman (Best Actress), Bonham Carter (Best Supporting Actress) and Madden (Best Actor). Of course if The Crown is not eligible, then all bets are off (only competition for GoT actresses in this case are Oh and Comer I think), but luckily what Chris posted offers hope that The Crown will make it in time. I am keeping all fingers crossed, otherwise it might indeed be quite a boring year.
I really don’t want to see the majority of awards being handed to GoT just because it’s their final season and the strongest competition did not make the eligibility period.February 13, 2019 at 3:37 am #1202774319
BPG Awards 2019 TV Nominations Best Single Drama/Mini Series A Very English Scandal (BBC One + Amazon) Mrs Wilson (BBC One) The ABC Murders (BBC One + Amazon) Best Drama Series Bodyguard (BBC One) Killing Eve (BBC Three + BBC America) Patrick Melrose (Sky Atlantic + Showtime) Vanity Fair (ITV) Best Single Documentary Drowning In Plastic (BBC One) Grayson Perry: Rites of Passage (Channel 4) Grenfell (BBC One) Best Documentary Series Inside the Foreign Office (BBC Two) Michael Palin In North Korea (Channel 5) Stephen: The Murder That Changed A Nation (BBC One) Why Does Everyone Hate the English? (History) Best Online First / Streaming Black Mirror: Bandersnatch (Netflix) Killing Eve (BBC Three) People Just Do Nothing (BBC Three) This Country (BBC Three) Best Comedy Car Share (BBC One) Derry Girls (Channel 4) Inside No 9 – Live Halloween Special (BBC Two) Women on the Verge (W) Best Entertainment Cruising With Jane McDonald (Channel 5) Michael McIntyre’s Big Show (BBC One) Mortimer and Whitehouse: Gone Fishing (BBC Two) Strictly Come Dancing, Series 15 (BBC One) Taskmaster, Series 7 (Dave) Best Actor Ben Whishaw, A Very English Scandal Benedict Cumberbatch, Patrick Melrose Hugh Grant, A Very English Scandal Best Actress Jodie Comer, Killing Eve Keeley Hawes, Bodyguard + Mrs Wilson Ruth Wilson, Mrs Wilson Sandra Oh, Killing Eve Best of Multichannel Patrick Melrose (Sky Atlantic + Showtime) Taskmaster, Series 7 (Dave) Why Does Everyone Hate the English? (History) Women on the Verge (W) Best Writer David Nicholls, Patrick Melrose (Sky Atlantic + Showtime) Lisa McGee, Derry Girls (Channel 4) Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Killing Eve (BBC Three + BBC America) o Russell T Davies, A Very English Scandal (BBC One + Amazon) Innovation in Broadcasting Award Cameroon: Anatomy of a Killing, BBC Africa Eye – for exposing ‘fake news’ claims Black Mirror: Bandersnatch, Netflix – for a ground-breaking form of storytelling The Circle, Channel 4 – for taking the next step in factual entertainment so far….
Thanks for posting these.
Very good news for Keeley Hawes, not only did she get in for Bodyguard but also for Mrs Wilson. Could she actually get a BAFTA nom for Mrs Wilson and not for Bodyguard as most of us predicted so far? Either way, I would love to see her nominated.
Madden was criminally snubbed here. Why nominate 4 best actresses but only 3 best actors!? Still, he should be able get a BAFTA nom at the very least I think. He was the only TV actor (that I know of) invited to make an appearance at the BAFTA film awards this weekend. He was there to promote his upcoming film Rocketman of course, but still it should hopefully give him a boost.February 6, 2019 at 2:59 pm #1202763479
The Little Drummer Girl fell completely flat for me and that includes both Skarsgard and Pugh. Skarsgard was too stoney-faced throughout and nothing noteworthy stood out for me about Pugh’s performance. They had virtually no chemistry in my opinion.
Shannon on the other hand played the most interesting character in the show with the most fascinating (and also tragic) background. He pulled off a convincing accent and he even spoke some half decent German. Now I am German and I can tell you this is no small accomplishment. In 99% of the time I have to read the subtitles when foreign actors try to speak German. It’s usually horrendous, but Shannon managed well. He is quite versatile!
In any case though, it almost doesn’t matter who else gets a nod in supporting actor. It’s Whishaw’s to win.
I thought the criteria for drama series contenders is that they are confirmed to or at least intending to return. I thought this applied to Vanity Fair, but I see now I was mistaken. I guess it will go into Miniseries. As I am sure will The Cry, because I don’t see how they could continue the story nor have I heard about any sort of plan to continue it.
I also have a growing gut-feeling about Grant winning. Not that he would be undeserving. He played the slimy politician well, but then again he ONLY played just that throughout the series. What I mean is he had no stand-out moments to me, like e.g. Whishaw had in his absolutley amazing court room scenes in the last episode. I am still rooting for Madden, although it probably won´t happen. He had several incredible moments in episode 4 of Bodyguard alone (which I hope will be the one submitted for consideration), not to mention in other episodes (3 and 6 in particular).
If it won’t be Madden, I would honestly rather see a surprise upset by a talented newcomer like Nabhaan Rizwan!February 6, 2019 at 5:53 am #1202762983
My predictions so far (probably quite a bit of wishful thinking, but here it goes):
Informer (Or: Vanity Fair)
A Discovery of Witches
Best Mini Series
A Very English Scandal
Hugh Grant, A Very English Scandal
Richard Madden, Bodyguard
Benedict Cumberbatch, Patrick Melrose
Nabhaan Rizwan, Informer
Jodie Whittaker, Dr Who
Olivia Cooke, Vanity Fair
Jenna Coleman, The Cry
Ruth Wilson, Mrs Wilson
Ben Whishaw, A Very English Scandal
Michael Shannon, The Little Drummer Girl
John Goodman, Black Earth Rising
Iain Glen, Mrs Wilson
Keeley Hawes, Bodyguard
Anjli Mohindra, Bodyguard
Asher Keddie, The Cry
Linda Bassett, Call The Midwife
I have left Killing Eve out since I don’t believe it will be eligible outside International (where it will most likely win).
I have almost completely snubbed The Little Drummer Girl because it fell completely flat for me. It just did not live up to the hype at all.
Too bad Les Miserables doesn’t seem to be eligible. I thought Lily Collins and Dominic West were really good. Perhaps they might get in next year.
I was also thinking about McMafia. I actually quite enjoyed the show, but I can’t see it getting any nominations. I think the critics weren’t overly warm towards it.
Oh and I just realised The ABC Murders aired just in time. I haven’t watched it yet but I saw praise in particular for Malkovich’s performance. I am also really happy to see Grint back in something. Perhaps it can translate to a nomination or two?February 5, 2019 at 6:38 am #1202762088
I am not thinking about Bodyguard ’cause who knows what’ll happen with its eligibility after all, though I think a series nom is more of a Globes thing and not Emmys-style.
I am fairly certain Bodyguard will be eligible. In their fourth quarter letter to shareholders, Netflix described the show as follows: “For example, Bodyguard (co-produced with BBC One, from ITV Studios) ranks as one of our most enjoyed co-productions.” (page 3)
ITV also confirmed that Netflix picked the show up very early in the game, “at script stage”.
So as far as I understand it, Bodyguard will be eligible for the Emmy Awards as a result of a co-production between foreign and US partners. The GGs have similar criteria and it got nominated there too.
In any case, I can’t see why Netflix would stop campaigning for it, especially if The Crown is not eligible. Then indeed, only Bodyguard and Ozark would be left as potential options.
Unless… do you guys think Netflix could push for You as well? I thought Penn Badgley was surprisingly good in it.February 5, 2019 at 3:37 am #1202761964
Mohindra might not have a big name (yet), but I do think she could get a chance. There was quite a lot of buzz for her performance as Nadia in the UK and I have heard nothing but praise for her from co-stars and critics alike.
The final twist/interrogation scene at the end of Episode 6 works well as a standout moment all by itself. Mohindra pulled that off so well, I literally got chills the first time I watched it.
For now, I predict Best Supporting Actress will get 2 Bodyguard noms, Hawes and Mohindra. I don’t see McKee or Haywood as strong enough contenders.February 4, 2019 at 9:22 am #1202760990
I simply cannot buy Taron Egerton getting an Oscar nomination even with Elton John having chosen him. The guy strikes me as a Hayden Christensen, Jai Courtney, or Sam Worthington type where Hollywood just keeps putting this guy in movies to “make this generic white male happen.” It is a cliche at this point, where they star or co-star in a bunch of studio tentpole films, most people don’t seem to care for their acting abilities, and after a while they fade away from the spotlight. I do not dislike his acting and have yet to see him give what I consider a bad performance, but I can admit he is completely replaceable. Not terrible, but with nothing distinctive about his style of acting that separates him from the countless others in the world (including POC) who would give anything to have the types of opportunities he is being all too easily and quickly handed in his career.
I am inclined to agree. Not to mention Egerton seems a bit full of himself in interviews.
OK, I don’t want to be too harsh either. I am definitely looking forward to Rocketman and who knows, Egerton might surprise with a very strong performance. Time will tell I guess. For know, though, I am predicting he might get a GG nom given they separate Drama and Comedy/Musicals, but I doubt he is getting an Oscar nod.February 4, 2019 at 7:41 am #1202760894
Richard Madden in supporting but Taron Egerton not in lead? I mean I am not complaining about a Madden nom but that would be silly if the case was that a film about Elton John didn’t get nominated for the actor who played Elton John but for everything else?
Actually, I can see Madden getting a nom and not Egerton. The latter is just not (yet) a critically acclaimed actor, doesn’t have a massive profile and his last major film was a box office bomb. He is already overshadowed by his co-star (who presumably has less screen time) five months before Rocketman’s release. And that’s not surprising, considering Madden is still riding the Bodyguard success wave and has already won one major award (potentially more to come). The HFPA clearly really like him and they might appreciate next time around how different Madden’s role in Rocketman is from the one he had in Bodyguard. If the HFPA nominate him for the next GG, then surely the Academy will take notice too.
Of course all we have to go on is the trailer so far, so I might change my opinion and be very impressed with Egerton after I have actually seen the film.
For now, though, I think Rocketman will be the new Bohemian Rhapsody and might potentially get in for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Score and Best Supporting Actor.February 4, 2019 at 7:14 am #1202760863
Hi everyone, I just registered after lurking around for a little while.
Like some of you here, I am also heavily rooting for Richard Madden to get at least one more major award this season (either BAFTA or Emmy). He was truly outstanding in Bodyguard.
I get what some of you have been saying about him and Bodyguard possibly being snubbed at the BAFTAs due to the success in the States. But in this case, I don’t think that’s going to happen for several reasons.
I live in the UK and the hype around Bodyguard when it first aired on the BBC was truly remarkable. The intense speculation about certain plot points drove ratings up week by week to the point where the final episode smashed live viewing records for the BBC. Bodyguard is also the most watched show on the BBC iplayer ever:
Over 17m viewers watched the finale of Bodyguard within one month of it airing (taking in account live figures as well as online views on computers, tablets and phones). That’s almost 1/3 of the entire UK population!
Not too mentioned the rave reviews the show got particularly for the opening sequence, great action set pieces, directing, writing and acting. If the BAFTAs don’t reward all of that, what will it reward!?
I think Bodyguard is very likely to win Best Drama.
As for acting nods, it will be Madden vs. Grant in the best actor category. Grant is one of the most respected actors in Britain, he has gotten great reviews for A Very English Scandal and he has not won a major award for it in the States (despite being nominated). So I could potentially see him winning over Madden, but then again Madden is extremely hot property right now. And with Rocketman coming out and the constant James Bond rumours, he is not going anywhere. Not to mention that Madden simply deserves it on merit. He had the most versatile and physically challenging role out of all potential nominees. And he pulled it off perfectly.
Keeley Hawes could get a supporting nom, however do not underestimate Anjili Mohindra. She earned extremely good reviews for her portrayal of Nadia. She might get in alongside Hawes or even instead of her.