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This crap list looks like a paid PR for some actors. Akin to People’s Sexiest Man Alive (unsurprisingly both are featuring MBJ) and Most Beautiful.

Oscar Isaac shouldn’t be on top 1000 list let alone above Dafoe.  I guess that he’s media’s token Latino darling but they would do better if they cultivated someone who resonated. Which he doesn’t.

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Chris Hemsworth explains what it means to be a hero in Thor Ragnarok

 

Also:

aaand my favorite doubleact

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ShinySeaDiamond wrote:

Of all the takes and examples to give, this is among the most ridiculous. If we want to talk about his career outside Ma Rainey, why not mention 42, Get on Up or Marshall?

 

Maybe because I never saw these movies and can’t comment? I only commented on the one that I saw, that was laughably suggested as Oscar worthy, when it wasn’t even the best in Black Panther cast let alone one of the best in 2018. That’s all that is.

Mind you, he wans’t bad in BP, he simply had nothing to do. His dull as a dishwasher stoic character was only going through motions and reacting to things that happened to him, while much more interesting supporting cast carried the whole thing. They plus costume and Ludwig Goransson’s score.

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Adam Driver reacts to Rey catching the lightsaber in TFA.

Notice the little smile forming. Burning Homestead punctuated the moment perfectly.

 

 

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Aaaaand underestimating Streep factor because this or that favorite’s filler spot is threatened has begun. 🙂

Davis

Kirby

McDormand

Streep

Good luck #5 whoever you are (Mulligan, Day, Loren, Pfeifer, Winslet)

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joesilver wrote:

So it’s basically like when some posters are saying that Kaluuya should run to supporting just because Boseman is the frontrunner in lead right now even when Kaluuya is probably lead in his movie too lol.

 

It’s similar. I think, in Kaluuya case, it’s more of “commit a category fraud to win” than really thinking that he’s a supporting actor.

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Monsoon 🌊 wrote:

Black Panther, Get On Up, or 42

LOL Black Panther. he didn’t even get the best reviews, heck, his supporting cast was much more praised as standouts than he. Jordan, Wright, Gurira and even Duke’s extended cameo showstealing turn got more attention. Boseman was OK but his role was very boring.

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Lupita didn’t get in because her movie was a genre movie that didn’t become a pop culture phenomenon aka didn’t transcend the genre. That’s all that is. Critics tried to push her trough but ultimately Us wasn’t a must-see unlike Get Out. It fizzled in the second week of its release when the buzz spread that the twist was bad and that it was really a comedy not so much a horror. I liked it more than Get Out, which I didn’t care about, but I understand why one clicked and the other didn’t. Unfortunatekly, that also hurt her chances. At the end of the day, first step to liking or admiring a performance is seeing the movie. Which is why I caution about dismissing Davis (as a potential winner) due to Boseman stealing the thunder and overhyping Kirby. Ma rainey’s in much more accessible than Pieces of a Woman and therefore is likely going to be seen more.  Not saying that Kirby cannot win since she has glowing reviews, just that actors don’t exist in the vacuum. Their movies need to be seen fist and in full (aka no walk outs).

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joesilver wrote:

If Chad’s role is bigger than Viola’s role why people were placing him in Supporting before Netflix announcement of him being pushed in Lead Actor?

Because, believe it or not, most posters don’t know everything about every single movie and make predictions based on superficial stuff such as “if the movie title is Ma Rainey’s and Davis plays the titular character, than everyone else is supporting to her lead”.  That’s perfectly natural. Many aren’t willing to read spoiler synopsis on Wiki which reveals that Chadwick’s character is actually the lead with an actual character arc while Ma rainey herself is tad less central and prominent with less defined arc but could pass as a co-lead.

 

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Yeah, comparisons to Phoenix are stupid. He was in a cultural phenomenon. He was tipped to win the moment trailer came out. He was overdue already. Boseman winning talk literally started after he died, not before, he wasn’t due (never got nominated) and his movie won’t be even Hamilton in terms of streaming viewership let alone Joker.  Point being, he is likely to win (reviews + sentimentality giving the edge + political momentum that’s driving the said sentimentality more than it would without it) but not because of Phoenix analogy since that doesn’t work at all.

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Victor Cruz wrote:

This week has been interesting. The fall of Glenn Close And now The Fall of Viola Davis. 

LOL, wut? I don’t even like Violo Davis but calling this a fall is the most ridiculous thing ever. She’s still very much in it to win it. You are forgetting several important details:

Kirby may have stronger reviews (for now) and be a clear lead (no co-starring thus no fear of being overshadowed) but she is in a far less accessible movie. That actually matters.

Davis has the narrative that is supported by the political momentum – there was only 1 black actress who ever won Actress so her win would be a big deal. And AMPAS will pay attention to such things just like Emmy’s did.

Davis movie is looking to be one of BP nominees. Boseman is a sure-fire Actor nominee and possible winner. Some think this hurts Davis but I don’t, I think AMPAS could award both. Davis is going to campaign more for Boseman than herself which could retroactively help her because it’s classy.

Globes are star-youknowwhat so they may be more likely to pick Davis over Kirby who’s just started to make a name for herself. I expect critics awards to go Kirby way plus BAFTA. SAG and Globe go to Davis. So we could have a race that gets decided by narrative.

Point being, this is far from Fall and it isn’t comparable to Close in any way (her movie is panned while Davis movie is looking strong based on reactions).

Right now, I have Kirby vs Davis. McDormand third. The rest is thank-you-for-participating filler unless Day becomes a late in the game spoiler but don’t think so.

 

 

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Leo and Marty. After Titanic turned him into Beatles-level teen girl’s obsession, Leo was likely the last actor one would expect to reinvent himself as the Marty’s muse. yet here we are. I just want him to win for a Marty movie.

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Kirby is looking super good but I’m not writing off Davis win yet. They could award both Davis and Boseman (who now looks super likely to take Actor). We’ll see how reviews go for Davis. twitter reactions are always more emotionally charged than reviews which tend to get more even-headed.

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If reviews hold that Viola isn’t the standout, but Chadwick is, he’s winning. Someone said that Hopkins performance would be studied by actors in years to come, but someone also called Boseman’s performance an all timer. So they are even atm as far as high praise goes with Boseman having sentimntal advantage. If Actress is Kirby’s to take, Actor is Boseman’s. Supporting Actress goes to Seifried (likely) and Supporting Actor goes to Kaluuya or Odom.

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nkb325 wrote:

My gut reaction was to repeat above poster and just call Amanda Seyfreid Karen Smith (still what she’s most known for I think) and wonder whether she has the career for them to feel comfortable calling her an oscar winner, but she’s actually had such an interesting career. She’s starred in massive hits (the mamma mia movies), oscar bait (Les Mis) and critics darlings (First Reformed), yet like I said I think she’s still most known for her very first movie, a teen comedy. I’ll be fascinated to see how the media talks about her once her oscar campagin revs up.

this is a great analysis of her career which is why she could end up winning. Someone who was putting out years of solid ecletic work and now has a chance to finally get rewarded.