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February 17, 2019 at 8:32 am #1202779087
I love Naomi. I don’t know… I think she’s not like Nicole or Charlize, and she knows that.
In what sense? In terms of talent she definitely is. I think Naomi was just unlucky that her two best performances came in films that weren’t ‘her’ vehicles. 21 Grams was an ensemble piece and Mulholland Drive was about so much more than just her performance (unlike Monster which was basically just about Theron’s performance).February 17, 2019 at 7:41 am #1202779073
You’re starting with being bitchy, I like it!
Diana for starters.
Not at all! Naomi’s one of my favourite actresses, and it seems like everyone’s in agreement that she’s one of the most talented of her generation. I was genuinely curious as to what went wrong with her. I know some of her project selection since The Impossible has been terrible, but I was wondering whether she turned down roles during her initial period of success that would’ve elevated her career?February 17, 2019 at 7:04 am #1202779049
First one I’d like to talk about is Naomi Watts. I have probably never seen such misguided career. So many missed opportunites, so many awful choices. I kinda feel bad for her. She has the looks, she has the chops so what the hell went wrong there?
Can you refresh my mind on what the missed opportunities/awful choices were?February 15, 2019 at 5:54 am #1202777177
honestly I don’t think the GoT prequel(s) will have half the acclaim the original show has, if it’s in Awards or fan following. It’s not like anything related to the World of Ice and Fire will immediately be a masterpiece, Game of Thrones is a rare combination of brilliant story with brilliant execution in all fronts. I think the decision to go with spin offs mainly comes from money.
My point was that GOT seasons 5-7 has attracted far more awards recognition than it deserves (the writing in particular is terrible) and I don’t want the prequel to suffer from any balancing out, especially if it’s closer to the storytelling of seasons 1-3.February 14, 2019 at 4:45 pm #1202776492
What I’m scared for is the prequel. I know it won’t have the same showrunners, but if it maintains the quality of GOT seasons 5-7, it absolutely won’t have the same level of Emmy-goodwill that GOT maintains right now. We need Naomi to finally get a great project again.February 13, 2019 at 4:56 pm #1202775170
Even without “industry” support, as people keep throwing around, Regina King has never really lost where she’s been nominated. The one issue is that are places where she really needed to be nominated where she wasn’t. To me, the nomination for her was the uphill battle. Now that she managed to get nominated, she’s winning.
If she wins, this will be the most logical reason why.February 13, 2019 at 4:43 pm #1202775160
I mean in terms of the quality of her performance. I’m not talking about award show politics. I’m not asking will she win, I’m asking why should she win?
The scene where she stares in the mirror is one of the best scenes of the year, but that’s arguably more of a directorial feat than an acting one. She emotes perfectly though.February 13, 2019 at 4:38 pm #1202775153
But Weisz is way too deserving. If you have the performance, you should win. It shouldn’t matter if you won before. Period. Jesus I find that short of logic, at least, tragic. I don’t know how one DOES’T vote for Weisz, the only acceptable reason is that people voting for someone else haven’t seen her performance.
If you’re purely going on performance disregarding previous wins (including how recent they came) then Stone has just as much right to win as Weisz.February 13, 2019 at 9:55 am #1202774639
At this point there isn’t really much more to say: go for Weisz if you want to follow historical precedent, go for King if you regard narrative highly, go for de Tavira if you think they love Roma enough to give it an acting win, go for Adams if you love Amy Adams.February 13, 2019 at 9:03 am #1202774577
I’m telling y’all 2019 is Octavia’s year.
– First lead role in a movie
– Upcoming oscar nod for Luce
– Upcoming Emmy nod for Are You Sleeping?
– Guest Star in Black-ish.
We need a prayer circle so that Naomi and Octavia can both be nominated for Luce (I know, chances of this happening are at 5%).February 13, 2019 at 8:28 am #1202774539
If King wins without SAG and BAFTA nominations that’s the definition of an upset because it defies precedent. And to be honest it’s looking likely (although I personally won’t go against the history that tells us Weisz will win).
The rest of the ‘close’ races won’t be upsets as there are strong arguments for all of the second place contenders to win. If anything other than Roma wins Picture that’s an upset but I really don’t think that will happen, nor do I want it to if the supposed competition is Green Book.February 11, 2019 at 5:44 pm #1202772723
I’m skeptical about King for several reasons: her being snubbed at SAG is significant due to the fact that actors who most likely share large overlap with the Emmys (correct me if I’m wrong) and are the largest voting block in the Academy snubbed her which defeats this whole “everybody must love Regina because she’s a 4 time Emmy winner!” argument. I also keep seeing Tom in videos saying that it doesn’t matter that her movie is not well liked due to people like Christopher Plummer winning for supporting in Beginners. Not only is that a flawed comparison IMO but to me it does matter as she is already lacking on one ingredient you need to win an Oscar(precursor strength/dominance) and is lacking in another in which she really should not be: With the same filmmaker winning Best Picture for Moonlight two years ago and in this type of political climate with this diverse new voting bloc why did If Beale Street Could Talk not do better with the overlapping with Oscar precursors? Black Klansman and Black Panther have the diverse angle as well but If Beale Street Could Talk is the small independent film that should have at least gotten into Best Picture and gotten more attention then it did from awards groups. No PGA, SAG, or major BAFTA nominations besides Screenplay. Coupled with King’s allegedly too brief performance and her lack of a large body of high profile film work in Hollywood makes me feel skeptical that she can win the Oscar.
If you had seen Beale Street, you’d know that despite its quality and its popular director it’s definitely not typical awards-fare (from it’s unusual interpretation of race, its downbeat ending and unconventional narrative). I can’t tell whether that factors into King’s chances specifically though.February 11, 2019 at 7:30 am #1202771959
I agree completely. I have always been baffled by this argument. It’s been years since I’ve seen that movie but she maybe has, at most, 25 minutes of screen time and she is pretty much gone from the movie after the first half and most of it was in flashbacks. Of course, the flashback angle alone doesn’t make her supporting but the time on screen certainly does. And yes, you could argue that Anthony Hopkins won in lead for a shorter performance….that was an interesting case, but still, I think Weisz was properly in Supporting.
I’m excited for this race though. I still think it’s King vs. Weisz but I also have a weird feeling about Marina being a strong darkhorse.
I guess because category fraud isn’t just about screentime. It’s also about the narrative of the film. That’s why category fraud will continue to happen – there are so many variables in deciding what’s lead and supporting. For example many would argue Colman is more supporting than Weisz in The Favourite despite having more screentime.