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January 26, 2020 at 11:28 pm #1203313793
Lol. Dirty Computer, Black Panther and Invasion of Privacy are far better albums.
Dirty Computer deserved to win as well. The other two, no way.
Black Panther was just a side project, and Invasion of Privacy a bunch of hits. It wasn’t a serious, fully realized body of work.
But as a fan, I know that if Kacey was black, or if she had a mediocre and hugely popular white popstar nominated against her, she would’ve lost. Although IMO she was totally deserving of it, she wouldn’t have won based on merit. Nobody does at the Scammys.January 26, 2020 at 11:23 pm #1203313779
Every Gaga era has had a TOP5 hit though (Applause was #4, Million Reasons was #4). So I think even if her next era flops, she’ll still spawn a hit. And quite frankly she has nothing left to prove. She’s won 11 Grammy’s, x2 Globes and an Oscar. Would’ve been nice if she won AOTY when the Grammy’s are prestigious, but I feel now it won’t bear the same weight anymore. It’s looked at as a rigged and racially unfair process.
Applause was her lead single when she was 5 years into her career. Top 5 was a must have, not a huge achievement.
Million Reasons was #4 for one week thanks to the Superbowl halftime show and a 50% discount and dropped out of top 15 the following week. Its chart run was a disaster before and after that even with 10+ performances and being discounted literally for months.
Her only real hit since 2011 was Shallow, which relied on a movie, on its huge marketing campaign, and on a fake relationship with the featured artist, just like Señorita.
All the award shows are rigged. That’s why she campaigned like crazy for an Oscar, that’s how you get one, not with a great work speaking for itself.January 26, 2020 at 11:10 pm #1203313757
If you’re black, kiss your GF winning chances goodbye: it’s not happening unless you’re very lucky.
If you’re a “lock” for one GF category and is nominated for the others, you’re gonna sweep even if you obviously shouldn’t, because voters vote for the exact same person across the board, even though they should vote for the nominated work they judge as the best. Bruno Mars winning ROTY and Billie winning ROTY and SOTY prove that.January 26, 2020 at 11:02 pm #1203313739
I don’t know why Billie and her brother are acting as if they don’t care for these awards. If you really didn’t care you wouldn’t have shown up like Childish Gambino last year. You also wouldn’t have been thirsty and campaigning like crazy this entire season. But I get it she’s a cool chick. Fucking tragic. At least when Taylor won she showed that she cared for her Grammy wins and she was always excited and gave an articulate speech. Settle down child you ain’t no Bon Iver.
I can’t believe those two untalented **** are acting like that after months of agressive campaigning. I didn’t like their songs but now I don’t like them either.January 26, 2020 at 10:59 pm #1203313732
Judging someone’s future career by a leak of demo that’s not even a single or anything? And even if Gaga releases an album that underperforms, she has proven her ability to repeak after lows in her career. Fear not, she’s here to say for decades longer. 11 Grammy’s won’t be all that she’ll win.
Let’s wait 8 more years to see her thriving then. LMAOJanuary 26, 2020 at 10:56 pm #1203313721
if Gaga’s album is like this tragic Stupid Love leak she ain’t getting no more Grammys….
As if Grammys gave two shits about quality. Gaga has campaigned so much to rebrand herself and for awards in general that she became a safe choice. If her competition is weak, with no Adele’s and white it girls, she can easily win more Grammys.
Too bad she won’t have a movie to sell her albums after this.January 26, 2020 at 10:46 pm #1203313695
I told you guys… There was no way Grammy voters would give Lizzo or Lil Nas X GF wins. If even their precious Beyoncé can’t, why would they? They’re black!!! And the other nominees weren’t competitive.
They’re so transparent that even with a Pop solo win over Billie, Lizzo still lost ROTY and SOTY to her, which is extremely rare and hasn’t happen in, like, 30 years?
Thank God Kacey Musgraves is white and had only a bunch of rappers as competition or she surely would have met the same fate Lana, Janelle, Lorde, Kendrick and etc did. A mess.January 21, 2020 at 6:08 pm #1203297788
If there were a Pop committee, Melodrama and NFR would’ve been nominated. Them missing for bigger artists shows that there just isn’t. Perfect Duet will always be a mystery. Especially since Bey got two surprise noms this year, and Ed made it into Pop Vocal over albums with bigger hits.
If the comittees didn’t snub Janelle Monáe for irrelevant albums, I would agree with you. But that is one(of many) situations that show those comittees have agendas and aren’t just about what’s “correct”.
I don’t buy that Melodrama was snubbed for Kaleidoscope EP and Lust for Life because Lana’s history with the Grammys is… curious, while Lorde won a GF category. It just doesn’t make sense that an album like Melodrama, with LOADS of critical acclaim, was left out, it wasn’t a strong year. The same applies to NFR because it should’ve been more strong than Ed or Beyoncé’s album. It’s not like Ed or Beyoncé are unbeatable on the Pop Field, specially with irrelevant albums.January 21, 2020 at 5:50 pm #1203297771
Ahh yes, thank you. Altho I think SAG voting for Davis made total sense because SAG has a shitton of theatre folk who probably saw/have great appreciation for Davis’ work in the play both on stage and on film.
Probably, but nowadays that wouldn’t matter. They would vote for the Golden Globe winner(Drama or Comedy) anyway. Meryl would have won the SAG or lost it to Michelle Williams(Comedy winner).
I think the main reason Streep lost the SAG was her winning it a few years before. Since she’s a two time Oscar winner and she was in contention for a win in 2008 and 2009 but lost both to Bullock and Winslet, they probably thought that even with the GG win, she would lose the Oscar again. So they just voted for who they thought had a better shot and/or their favourite, and that was Viola.January 21, 2020 at 5:46 pm #1203297760
The comittees are necessary because Grammy voters are too focused on commercial success. Without the comittees, every category and field would be just as basic and uninspired as the Pop field.
The thing is: they shouldn’t be necessary. Voters should be more judicious.
And the way those comittees have been operating is completely absurd. They literally are leaving people out intentionally to clear the path for someone else winning, and that’s why “weird” snubs like Janelle Monáe in Urban Contemporary, This Is America in Rap Song, etc, happened.
IMO, there’s a secret comittee for the Pop Field doing the exact same stuff. That would explain how “Perfect”, “Melodrama” and “Norman F** Rockwell” weren’t even nominated.January 21, 2020 at 5:38 pm #1203297740
The Academy went back to the preferential ballot in 2009, so who knows for sure? Preferential ballots could definitely hurt frontrunners if voters vehemently disagree with who the frontrunner is and purposely lowball them.
I’m talking about the acting categories, the preferential voting is used only for Best Picture.
In the last 8-ish years, the frontrunners always swept and the exceptions are very specific: Stallone, Aaron Taylor-Johnson: populist GG picks. James Franco was blacklisted because there was outrage over him winning the GG. Glenn lost to Colman at BAFTAs because Colman is a national treasure there.
Meryl lost SAG to Viola Davis because she had won SAG 4 years before but lost the Oscar to Winslet. SAG voters probably didn’t think she was getting the Oscar(again) even after her GG win, so they went for their favorite instead.January 21, 2020 at 5:29 pm #1203297720
Did you notice how Hollywoodish the Bafta’s were this year? Also, people were predicting JLO would beat Dern at the Globes, not only that didn’t happen but she was also snubbed at the Oscars. Dern is a lock win. All 4 categories and that’s unfortunate. Most boring acting awards season this decade.
This is even worse than 2018, maybe. I’m not sure.
Thing is, none of the 4 winners would have swept if voters weren’t so lazy.January 21, 2020 at 5:25 pm #1203297709
Glenn Close losing was an outlier that proves Oscar voters are ageist or don’t want HER to win. This “She’s gonna win anyway, so I’m going to vote for Olivia Colman” isn’t a valid excuse. If things like that happened, the frontrunners would frequently lose to their runner-ups, and that never happens. The “lone nominee” or “They don’t care about overdue narratives anymore” excuses don’t work either because Julianne Moore/Gary Oldman won recently and Pitt and Dern are going to win this time.
Laura Dern could lose BAFTA, but her Oscar win is sealed. There’s no way they’re going to vote for Florence Pugh, a newbie, over her. Even if many voters don’t want her to win, their votes will be split between Johansson and Robbie anyway, so Pugh winning BAFTA would just split the anti-Dern votes even more.