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August 31, 2020 at 8:57 am #1203677643
1. “VMAs mean nothing because they are fan voted.” – Taylor Wins best Director industry voted award. “Oh it was just given to her it means nothing.” 2. “Taylor is only number one on billboard because she has no competition” – Taylor outsells Pop Smoke “Pop Smoke sells just as good as Taylor. Her numbers aren’t all that Because Popsmoke is right behind her” 3. Taylor releases a critically acclaimed, commercial success of an album, a lock for a nod in AOTY. “She’ll be blocked because If she doesn’t she’ll win” – Taylor gets nominated: “Taylor will not win because she’s white” Y’all are seriously exhausting!
She’s not winning if nominated, but the panel wouldn’t risk it, like they didn’t with Look What You Made Me Do.
August 31, 2020 at 8:44 am #1203677607It doesn’t matter if the song flopped. It’s an award for the music video, not the song. The Man has clear industry support if it won Direction. And why would they want Taylor to win? She’s only one this category once before and is having a great year. Maybe YOU don’t want her to win – which is a personal problem.
It shouldn’t, but it does.
Every Best Music Video winner since 2010 was a top 10 hit. Literally no exception. Most of them were #1 hits, even.
Boom Boom Pow #1
Bad Romance #2
Rolling in the Deep #1
We Found Love #1
Suit ‘n Tie #3
Happy #1
Bad Blood #1
Formation #10
Humble #1
This is America #1
Old Town Road #1Formation was the only non-top 3 hit. And we’re talking about Beyoncé, the second biggest female Grammy winner ever. And even she would most likely have lost if Adele was nominated with her #1 hit.
August 31, 2020 at 8:38 am #1203677598According to you guys, taylor is a threat in every category so Grammys are blocking her everywhere. Stop making JOKE.
In every category, not. In a category that only has 1 or 2 mainstream nominess every year, YES.
Going by that logic, Gaga and Taylor are both getting blocked in Best Music Video just in case Grammy voters are dumb enough to vote for their (clearly inferior) material. There’s precedent for that type of situation in Music Video and Music Film, I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about it.
August 31, 2020 at 8:35 am #1203677589What pisses me off is that if ANYBODY else in that lineup won Direction, you would all be calling it a lock for a nod right now. But Taylor so of course you don’t think she will be nominated.
I’m not hating on Taylor, because I actually like her(not really as a person, but as an artist). I just don’t think The Man has any impact, which is a requirement for a nomination if we’re talking mainstream/pop artists. The Directing VMA win is literally the only thing it has, unlike the other winners.
August 31, 2020 at 8:33 am #1203677584It doesn’t matter if Old Town Road was a much bigger hit. Every winner of Direction apart from one was nominated for BMV at the Grammys – so yes, in a way it does have an impact on the Grammy nominations.
When the video has critical or commercial impact, yes. When it’s an out of nowhere nomination for a flop song from an album from last cycle, I doubt it.
If there wasn’t a panel behind the category, I’d say she’d have a shot. But Taylor Swift is too big of a name to be nominated for that, they know she’d be a threat for the win and they won’t want that for a video no one watched or talked about.
August 31, 2020 at 8:29 am #1203677569I don’t like The Man the song. The video is cool though, so congrats hopefully she can get a BMV nod. I would have never thought she’d be pushing for a song from a previous era but congrats to her if she pulls it off. Maybe the academy will start appreciating artists who self direct their videos some more. As of now BL is the front runner because it’s just a huge song and Findesemna will be nominated across the board. But come on y’all! You can’t possibly tell me that Findesemna actually won VOTY. Clearly it was giving to him to get him to perform. There’s no way in hell you’ll expect me to believe that his fans out voted the Little Monsters and Arianators.
It’s obvious Gaga and Ariana won VOTY. But the VMA’s were never gonna give the award to the most voted one, whoever that was.
They always give it to the one they want to win. Mirrors, Formation didn’t win the poll either. Havana only won because Gambino wasn’t there.
August 31, 2020 at 8:24 am #1203677553The same posters claiming Old Town Road wouldn’t be nominated in BMV last year after its Direction win at the VMAs are the same ones saying The Man won’t be nominated this year. Taylor is happening in BMV.
Why do you guys make parallels like that? Old Town Road was a 20x times #1 song. The Man didn’t even reach top 20. It would need to rely solely on its VMA to win to get a Grammy nomination and it also has other weaknesses, like the fact that it’s not from the eligible album Taylor has.
Are you guys really serious about VMA’s having that much of a say on what the Grammys will nominate? LMAO
August 31, 2020 at 8:21 am #1203677545I think “Blinding Lights” and “Physical” will the two mainstream nominees in BMV.
Me too, but Physical needs to be submitted first.
August 31, 2020 at 8:21 am #1203677543We love THE hit of the year Formation by Beyoncé
Stop playing(?) dumb.
August 31, 2020 at 8:17 am #1203677538Just scrolled through; I was convinced The Man stood no chance in BMV due to how much it bombed but this discussion is changing my perspective. I think it and Blinding Lights will be the 2 mainstream noms.
Well, it shouldn’t.
August 31, 2020 at 8:06 am #1203677519Again, no. I’m talking about technical noms. Vaguard Winners Missy Elliot – 0 tech noms JLo – 0 tech noms P!nk – 0 tech noms Rihanna – 0 tech noms Kanye West – 0 tech noms
Honey, the Music Video Grammy is always the same. They nominate 1 or 2 mainstream videos to secure its win and the rest is underground/indie.
Blinding Lights is getting a nomination because it’s THE hit of the year. All the other mainstream videos are fighting for the second one. ROM will get the “Look What You Made Me Do” and “Hello” treatment for obvious reasons.
August 31, 2020 at 7:54 am #1203677500If The Man or All the Good Girl Go to Hell was huge (A la This is America), I would understand it winning? But when EVER has the Grammys cared about artistic creativity. Hell FKA twigs learned to poll dance for months, and still have gave to Old Town Road for riding horses and doing two steps. So no, both Billie and Taylor are not winning. BMV currently for the frontrunners are Blinding Lights and Rain On Me. Outside VMA picks are The Box, Physical (nominated not win), and Cardigan (?). Anyways we will have to wait and see.
Blinding Lights will win. The Box and/or Physical might be nominated but won’t win.
ROM and Cardigan aren’t happening because the panel will block them.
August 31, 2020 at 7:52 am #1203677490Best Direction VMA: 2010 – Bad Romance (won BMV at the Grammy’s) 2011 – Make Some Noise (didn’t get a Grammy nomination) 2012 – Bad Girls (got a nom for BMV at the Grammy’s) 2013 – Suit and Tie (won BMV at the Grammy’s) 2014 – Turn Down For What (got a nom for BMV at the Grammy’s) 2015 – Alright (got a nom for BMV at the Grammy’s; Kendrick still won the Grammy but for a different song) 2016 – Formation (won BMV at the Grammy’s) 2017 – HUMBLE. (won BMV at the Grammy’s) 2018 – This Is America (won BMV at the Grammy’s) 2019 – Old Town Road (won BMV at the Grammy’s)
It’s not about the VMA’s predicting it. Most/all of those videos were winning technical awards left and right in more serious(and less well known) awards.
Something The Man isn’t, as far I know. That’s why it’s obviously not fitting a pattern.
August 31, 2020 at 7:49 am #1203677482And how many tech awards did Blinding Lights win again? Mother’s Daughter isn’t eligible for this Grammy cycle anyways. Gaga is a past BMV winner and Rain On Me got noms in all the tech noms it was eligible. I don’t even know why I’m bothering, you only come to these forums to hate on Lady Gaga for some reason. Get help honey.
Gaga is a past BMV winner with an actually very good and impactful video/song. Not a green screen mess with a frontloaded “hit”.
She was nominated across the board because they were giving her an honorary award. That doesn’t mean anything for her Grammy chances with the video, which is not Grammy material. Now stop with the delusion.
August 31, 2020 at 7:41 am #1203677450Do you know you are literally proving Taylor’s song point with this rambling ? If she were a man this discussion would not be taking place.
Sure, call me sexist. She’s still not getting nominated for it.
