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Luca Giliberti wrote:

I don’t understand how Iwan Rheon never got any attention for his performance. He easily deserved several nods. His character is a bit one-note, but Rheon did a good job of showing that Ramsay is just a horrible person. I guess he isn’t the winking devil that voters love, you truly did loathe him. He’s not like Ann Dowd on Handmaid’s, where you have a blast whenever she’s onscreen, despite her evilness.

Probably because the voters only vote for the “main” characters. That’s what they’ve done so far, so maybe they’ve decided to do that on purpose since there’s no main actor/actress submission. And the “fan-favorite” aspect also is considered because they’ve nominated Maisie, but not Sophie and for S6, that didn’t make any sense. Turner had a much better material.

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Kord Dkt wrote:

First of all I love the totallies spies.. I’ve recognized Alex and Clover… this is my childhood… I agree with you… thank you because it’s like everybody here think these actors are the greatest ever… It’s a shame they won’t admit that the material and the show help, but they’re not great ones… And I agree that Maisie and Sophie are better than Kit who is just bland as you said… anyway I always agreed with Marina.

Hahaha I watch this cartoon to this day, love it too

GOT has lots of amazing actors but they don’t have enough screentime or development, unfortunately. Even the very few award-worthy performances in the main cast(Dinklage’s S2, S4) are more about the material being good than the acting performance itself. He’ll never be comparable to Sean Bean or Michelle Fairley perfect performances as Ned and Catelyn and they didn’t even need a funny, witty, know-it-all character. In any scene which Tyrion has to cry, shout or whatever, Dinklage’s performance is weak(breaking up with Shae) or a display of overacting(4×06 ending scene). He just doesn’t convince me as a dramatic actor. Sorry, fans.

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I loved GOT until S3, I had already read all 5 novels before. It went downhill from there with season 6 being an exception.

And I never loved the performances. I mean, the supporting actors are amazing, but the main cast not so much. Peter Dinklage is extremely overrated and one-note, he’s sooo contrived in dramatic scenes. A good actor, but not a great one. The same applies to Lena Headey to a certain extent but at least she has a much better material to work with, while Dinklage’s character arc after season 4 sucks. They’re both good actors, but not outstanding imo. Nikolaj is the best Lannister sibling, but he’s the most underdeveloped at the same time because his character is Cersei’s puppet most of the time, let’s be real.

Kit Harington and Emilia Clarke aren’t good actors. His character is extremely bland and he doesn’t elevate the material. Her character is nice but the way the writers handle it doesn’t help. She deserved her nomination for S3, he never deserved one. Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams are miles better than Kit and Emilia, and I say that as someone that can’t stand Maisie’s character. Still their performances are very believable and natural even when the writing sucks.

The best performances in the show, IMO: Catelyn, Ned, Theon, Tywin, Davos, Ramsay, Stannis, Olenna, Margaery, Melisandre, Brienne, Jorah, The Hound, etc. I understand why and how they’ve been overlooked since everyone is considered “supporting cast”, but I still think it’s unfair how only Peter Dinklage keeps receiving awards for a role that stopped being interesting in season 5. Specially when he’s far from being the best actor on the show. He deserved an Emmy for S2, IMO, but that’s it.

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Stegeo wrote:

And Peter Dinklage.

Eww.

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Joe Burns wrote:

But then why didn’t Lange and Streep take SAG?

Lange, IDK.

Streep, most likely because she won the SAG 3 years before for Doubt and she still lost the Oscar to Kate Winslet, so they probably thought that she would lose the Oscar once again. Besides, SAG loves Viola Davis and she was a strong contender in a better/more popular movie, so they supported her.

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Joe Burns wrote:

Bening had only been acting for eleven years on film and for thirteen on television. She’s way older then Swank yeah but a veteran seems to be a bit of a stretch for her at this point in her career.

That’s why I said “kind of a veteran” meaning she wasn’t really a veteran, but she was around for more than one decade and she was much older than Swank, so people could’ve seen her like one. If they didn’t respect/like Swank enough, Bening would’ve beat her quite easily, but unfortunately for her, that wasn’t the case. They loved Swank enough to give her 2 LEAD Oscars in 6 years, so probably Bening didn’t stand a chance against her.

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1999: Bening was kind of a veteran, so SAG chose her over a newbie, it’s not hard to understand that. The weird part is why the Academy chose Swank over her since Bening had SAG AND BAFTA… No idea! Maybe they dislike Bening or they just loved Swank’s performance too much to deny her.

2002: Probably because Kidman wasn’t really lead in The Hours. But Kidman won BAFTA and her role was probably more baity, I guess. Since Kidman was/is bigger than Zellweger, Oscars chose her instead.

2007: A foreign language performance wouldn’t win SAG. Cotillard had Globe + BAFTA so her win is “obvious” in hindsight, she’s young, hot and talented and campaigned much harder. Besides, Christie already had an Oscar so there was no overdue narrative to help her beat an ingenue.

2011: SAG apparently loves Davis. BAFTA is kind of racist so they went with Streep. Streep had GG Drama + BAFTA while Davis only had SAG. It was a no brainer since Streep is too hyped/popular/beloved to not win in such a context. SAG was an outlier.

2019: The Academy just doesn’t like Close, I guess. It’s clear no one cares about CC(Malek lost, Gaga tied, Bale won), so I doubt that tie between Close and Gaga made a significant portion of voters vote for Gaga to make a vote split happen. Besides, Close won SAG after that, so Gaga was forgotten, just like Colman. Then, Colman won BAFTA, which was obvious, but apparently all Close “haters” saw that as a sign that Colman had a shot and decided to vote for Colman so Close wouldn’t win. I don’t buy that they just liked Colman’s performance better because that’s not how it works. Regina King, Rami Malek and Ali won thanks to their narratives/awards run, we never have surprises in the acting categories as of lately, so the fact that Close couldn’t win even when her narrative was much stronger than Colman’s and she was campaigning harder… Colman isn’t a typical BA winner either, so that also demonstrates that there’s some kind of bias against Close. Comedy/Musical Globe winners only win the Oscar when they’re hot young things(Lawrence, Witherspoon, Cottilard, Paltrow, Stone), and even then, they also win SAG, which Colman didn’t.

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prognosticator wrote:

Each best picture nominee won awards. When Green Book got screenplay I knew Olivia had it. They weren’t going to let The Favourite walk away empty handed. That’s a huge reason Olivia won. Get Glenn a Daldry type of film.

 

If you say so. The Favourite had TEN nominations…

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Babygirl wrote:

Imagine saying it didn’t atleast deserve Costume Design… yikes.

 

It didn’t. The costumes were pretty, but didn’t look real. Mary Poppins was more deserving if they didn’t want to go with a movie about queens. BP deserved Production Design and that’s it.

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Mahersala Alead winning 2 Oscars in 2 years, Regina King winning without SAG or BAFTA noms and Malek winning on his first nomination in a bad movie just make Close’s loss more of a slight.

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syrus80 wrote:

I don’t think the acting branch failed Glenn. I think the British voters screwed her over.

Sally Hawkins and Rosamund Pike are sad now.

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Everything was terrible.

Black Panther didn’t deserve anything, it felt like they were unsure of what it could win and just voted for it everywhere. Ridiculous!

Green Book BP and Original Screenplay LMAO, in what world?

BR winning the most awards is… funny. Let’s hope those GB and BR wins teach the critics and pundits to stop with their artificial smear campaigns. The way they kept trying to sabotage those 2 and push ASIB was so transparent that it backfired.

Oscar voters were clearly trying to be overly populist this time. The only deserving winner was Olivia Colman but still, Close should’ve won instead, so… Worst Oscars ever and last year was already bad with those acting wins and BP winner. What’s next? I don’t wanna know.

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wattsgold wrote:

I like the optimism, but Glenn Close will not be a Best Actress winner. If they had wanted to see her up there after 7 nominations, they would have voted. It’s as simple as that.

This is the point many people are refusing to see. This was the moment if they wanted/didn’t have anything against her with an Oscar.

If Gaga had won, we could say “She won thanks to all the media hype”, because shit like that happens. It would be disrespectful, but it would be about Gaga being forced down everyone’s throats, not exactly an anti-Close conspiracy. But someone like Colman(british, arguably supporting, unknown outside of UK, first time nominee and 40+ years old) wouldn’t have won against Winslet or Moore, so it’s obvious they deliberately denied Close an award because they dislike her or simply don’t care.

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Marcus.H wrote:

No one would think that Gaga could revive from that 2013 messy Artpop era ,let alone gaining BAFTA,Oscars,Grammys,GG in one year. She just proved again and again that PAYOLA ALWAYS WINS.

You’re right, Jan

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M wrote:

Your obsession with how the media supposedly “pushes” Gaga almost sounds “trump-ish”

It’s not an obsession, it’s the truth. 🙂

At least it worked(not as much as it could have) this time. Be happy!

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