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The whole drama has been ridiculous. I can understand that a lot of people are disappointed that their favorites have been snubbed (I personally would love to see Danielle Deadwyler being nominated) , but it’s not like someone bribed or killed somebody. It all boils down to a tweet from an actress I have never heard of, and maybe mentioning a competitor in a FYC campaign.  This vs. millions of dollars spent by studios for promotions. Do you really think that voters were more influenced by that last minute unconventional campaign than by those millions worth campaigns?

I think many voters supported Riseborough, because they did want a surprise in  an predictable, money based voting process, where small movies are at huge disadvantage from the very beginning.

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Uri_Urusha wrote:

Exactly. Great acting is not about imitating a living famous person’s accent. Then what is the difference between Great actors and snl actors? Its about creating a character that is influenced by the specific times and places they live in with that affects their accent, physicality, movement, voice.this one line is not too hard to understand.

That’s imitating, not acting. Great acting is about creating a character that touches a viewer or a viewer may relate to. That has nothing to do with accent, it may have something to do with physicality, movement and voice, but not in a way that you probably think. Jessica Chastain did a great job imitating Tammy Fay, so did Streep with Thatcher. Those roles did nothing to me. Cotillard in Two Days, One Night created a role that I could relate to even though I’ve never been in her situation, because she raised it to a more general level. Probably no one except you cared for her accent or nationality.

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#1205275955

Yet again someone claiming that acting is being good at imitating accents. 😉

And I am sure that they are experts in this field  saying that Polish accent is easy for a French speaker to pull off…Hahaha

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#1205214095

Once again people here mistaking mimicking youtube clips or wearing wigs and heavy makeup for acting.

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FreemanGriffin wrote:

I went to se this movie with expectations of liking or perhaps loving it. It got a grade of F from me. I hated every single aspect of this film – every single rotten moment of having to spend time with these despicable characters. This movie is PRETENTIOUS DRIVEL! No wonder the critics are drooling all over it. Cate Blanchett is always competent but who wants to spend two and a half hours with this horrendous despicable character? Not me. Worst screenplay, even worse direction, just couldn’t wait to leave the movie theater and wash off the stench from this piece of cinematic garbage! I am not surprised at it’s awards success since critics are idiots these days but I am happy that audiences have had the good sense to stay away from it in droves! It is a BOX OFFICE BOMB!!!!! This isn’t a beloved performance by audiences and that is why I do not think Blanchett will prevail at the Oscars. It’s a critics darling movie. We get a few of these every year. If she wins a third Oscar it will be due to a lack of consensus around another of the nominees and for no other reason imo. (I am predicting Michelle Yeoh will win the Oscar at this point).

I’m surprised you hate it with so much passion…;-)

I think it’s a great film about adults made for adults, with unHollywood approach (no cheap sentimentalism and easy answers). All differences aside, it reminds me of Lost Daughter, in a way that it leaves you wondering about a character who is unlikable and complex long after the film is finished.

There are a lot of nuances worth watching the film the second time. I still try to get the ending. Not the last scene, but how Lydia acts and who she is at the end.

 

 

 

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#1205195744

At least we have a pretty civilised discussion.

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It such a good year, with so few biopics and acting not being (mainly) limited to the ability to imitate youtube clips.  I do wonder whether it will be Michelle or Cate on the Oscar night. I love Cate but hope it is Michelle.

Haven’t seen Empire of Light, but I can imagine Colman being spectacular even in a mediocre movie. Here acting is very nuanced,  therefore some here thinks she just breathes and it is enough to get a nomination.

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SnookTheWay wrote:

Might spam tomorrow when the full episode releases but I can’t get enough of this image! I love it. We are lucky to have these two as formidable frontrunners of this season (right now)

I think it is ultimately between the two. I love Cate, think she is one of the greatest ever, and I hope she gets four Oscars altogether in her time. But Michelle’s win would be something natural and at the same crazy and unexpected given the type of the role and the film.  It just feels like this is the role of the year.

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You guys do realize that there are films made for general audience and films made for more discerning moviegoers?

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I think it was interesting to watch.  I had an impression that Marylin was just like the silly characters she played but having either depression or mental break down all the time. That’s what was most disturbing to watch – I had an impression that it was a 12-year-old in a body of a woman being used and raped. Ana played it very well, but I don’t think that who Marylin really was.

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rue wrote:

This definitely isn’t being appreciated enough. 4 nominations in 5 years after not getting any would be insane.

I think at certain point Colman fatigue will start among Academy members. Maybe this year.

I’m her huge fan, and was rooting for her to win for The Lost Daughter, but I think she suffers now from certain overexposure in UK (not her being  self-promoting, but the amount of success she had in British TV over quite a long time ) that may also happen among Academy members.

I think that the fact she did not manage to break through internationally until being in her mid 40s is a crime. Recently I watched some clips from the series 2012, and how she managed to get so much out of a virtually nothing role was amazing. And all was done with subtleties .

 

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No front runner now and there will be no front runner till the Oscar night. A lot of fun.

Still I think its  between Kidman, Chastain and Colman. Kidman has just lost a small margin that she had. It just seems that there is not as much passion for her to win a second Oscar as it seemed yesterday.

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#1204804862

Damn, it was a civilised place for a few days, but some of you guys regained your form!

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Kidman is a frontrunner now. When the race is so close, it’s small things that decide. Kidman is a respected actress and an internationally recognizable star. Even if voters do not believe this is an Oscar worthy performance, they may take into account all her previous roles. They won’t feel they are awarding someone mediocre.

Still, I think that Colman delivered the performance of the year. But there are things working against her – recent win, a small (intentionally) divisive and difficult movie. What can help her, paradoxically, is lack of campaigning. She’s almost saying “let my work speak for itself”, which a lot of voters may find refreshing. It’s like awarding a performance, not a narrative or campaign. And finally, she’s capable of winning against all odds – as she said recently winning an Emmy: “I wouldn’t bet money on this happening” (and it wasn’t fake modesty, everybody was thinking this).

Let’s see what happens next. At this moment, even though I see Kidman as frontrunner, I would boldly predict Colman.

I think Chastain is third, but still pretty close. I don’t think they are willing to award a foreign performance (you have to be extremely strong and visible to stand a chance), and Stewart’s performance is one that I like and hate at the same time. Spencer is terribly pretentious at moments, and it affects her. And she went too far with mannerism (and I don’t care if they reflect actual mannerisms of Diana, and no one of us knows what she was like in private, sometimes it’s better to deviate from the person who is portrayed for the sake of the movie). But I think it was a deserved nomination, sometimes a role is not perfect but is memorable and bold enough to deserve e recognition.

And finally, no precursors will mater.

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Babylonian wrote:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WgXXvADL_M?feature=oembed%5D

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byh09ojFQrQ?feature=oembed%5D

It’s semi-realistic. At the end of the day the accents are more authentic than no accents.

Well, I’m not questioning that when they spoke English they spoke it with Italian accent. What I’m saying is that they did not speak to each other in English with Italian accent. The language that they spoke to each other was their native language that had no foreign accent. Unlike in the movie, which suggests that they spoke in a language that was foreign to them.

Anyway, it’s not the biggest problem of HoG. I’m sure that if the had taken more time, found a better screenwriter and Ridley Scott wasn’t distracted by other projects it would have been a much better film.

 

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