Kevin Jacobsen
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September 20, 2017 at 7:49 am #1202219226
Has anyone discussed the complete failure of Feud: Bette and Joan? I just find it fascinating that this show racked up double-digit nominations at the main telecast and didn’t win any of them. I did some research and this is the first time a show has received at least 10 nominations on the main show and didn’t win anything since ER in 1997.
Do we think it would have cleaned up if Big Little Lies weren’t there? I’m assuming at least Jessica Lange would win, but I imagine The Night Of was the runner-up as far as broad support.
ReplySeptember 18, 2017 at 6:29 pm #1202217714It’s hard to narrow down because I loved so many of them. But Black Mirror’s two wins were the most special to me, because San Junipero is my favorite episode of television all year.
As far as acting winners, I loved the entirety of Ann Dowd winning, from her shocked look to her grabbing her shawl to her breathless speech. I wouldn’t have voted for her, but it’s hard to complain after a moment like that. I can pretend it was for The Leftovers.
ReplySeptember 18, 2017 at 9:03 am #1202217107The show itself was a bit disjointed, but I don’t really care about all that as long as the winners are good. And good they were. Not a whole lot of upsets but I’m so happy we can now call Nicole Kidman, Elisabeth Moss, Riz Ahmed, Donald Glover, Ann Dowd, Laura Dern, Reese Witherspoon, Lena Waithe and Charlie Brooker Emmy winners.
I’m really surprised both Stranger Things and Westworld went home empty-handed after winning five Creative Arts Emmys last week. I guess Casting isn’t necessarily a reliable predictor in some cases. I loved both Stranger Things and The Handmaid’s Tale but I’m glad the more… shall we say, significant show won in the end. Ted Sarandos must be furious that Hulu just won a series award on its first serious year of contention. YIKES. Same goes for Jeff Bezos at Amazon I’d imagine, rough year for them.
I wish the Sean Spicer thing didn’t happen. Not only is it disgusting to do this unearned redemption tour thing but it’s been so distracting in the coverage of this year and takes away from all the great winners. Stephen Colbert was a fine host. Nothing I’ll remember.
The only wins I can quibble with are The Voice and Alec Baldwin. I get the Baldwin thing (so one-note, though) but The Voice? Really? After winning nothing at the Creative Arts and RuPaul’s Drag Race winning three including Host, and RuPaul having a segment on the live show, and being so culturally cool? So lazy.
I’m curious about next year. Game of Thrones is returning, but will The Handmaid’s Tale continue its success? Veep, Master of None and probably Atlanta won’t be there so it’s gonna be fun to see some new wins there!
ReplySeptember 16, 2017 at 11:34 am #1202214424Well this should be interesting. I do miss the grouping by genre but there is at least some flow to this, with all the supporting categories being in the first half and the lead ones towards the end. They really seem to be banking on those movie stars, as Atypical said. I don’t necessarily mind Comedy not being second to last because it’s not really that suspenseful, while Limited Series and the two lead acting categories are.
ReplySeptember 15, 2017 at 12:01 pm #1202213699Some of the more colorful quotes:
“The one that I took off right away was Better Call Saul — it’s what I call ‘a why show’ because, even though they’ve had some good episodes, I do not understand why they’re doing it. Did the Breaking Bad universe really need to be expanded? No. This is a show about small people with small problems. I don’t mind one or the other, but both?”
On This Is Us: “I cried unabashedly at three-quarters of the episodes, and that’s not an easy thing to make me do, especially when the show is constantly being interrupted by stupid car commercials. How do you do that?! The cast is magnificent across the board and the writers aren’t playing on cheap sentiment; they’re dealing with deep stuff. How do we survive as a family? What is our identity in this society? Who are we? I never missed an episode. It’s the first network show that I’ve voted for since The Good Wife. I was so happy to vote for it.”
“I next eliminated another show that I have voted for in the past, Silicon Valley, which is just covering the same old ground — the stories are repetitive, the characters are not that interesting anymore, I haven’t felt anything new at all and Thomas Middleditch is doing more acting in his Verizon commercials than on his show.”
“Black-ish? I don’t get it. Anthony Anderson [as the character Dre] is so needy that it just takes me completely out of the show, plus I’ve never liked “A very special episode of…” stunts, and they did more than their share of those this year, like the one, “I’m afraid to be an African-American in America,” which ABC literally promoted as “A very special episode of…'”
“I cannot, for the life of me, understand why This Is Us didn’t put its pilot on the ballot — that episode should be taught in schools.”
ReplySeptember 14, 2017 at 8:01 am #1202212575So do anyone have the order of which the awards are given out? Like is it supporting actor comedy then writing, etc, etc, etc……….
Not sure yet, but in Chris Beachum’s chat with Ricky Kirshner and Glenn Weiss, the producers, they suggested they didn’t necessarily feel bound to the formula of grouping the categories by genre, so it may have a different flow than the past few years.
ReplySeptember 13, 2017 at 7:27 am #1202211679I thought Newton was going to win the Golden Globe, then I thought she had a shot at the SAG, but she won neither. I know the Emmys are a different animal, but I’m wondering if Newton’s performance is more of a critics thing. Maeve is a fan favorite character, but is she a little too cold? I’ve been predicting her for the longest time, but the Creative Arts indicated to me that between Stranger Things and Westworld, they prefer the former.
Millie Bobby Brown kind of reminds me of Uzo Aduba, where a character played by a previously unknown actress becomes instantly iconic and popular, and is rewarded for it. Plus, we’ve seen that voters are more lenient towards younger performers these past two years, so the age thing might not be that big of a factor.
ReplySeptember 13, 2017 at 6:02 am #1202211648Locking these in as my final predictions. I think this is a good mix of rubber-stamping, Emmy weirdness and indications from the Creative Arts:
COMEDY SERIES
Veep (HBO)DRAMA SERIES
Stranger Things (Netflix)LIMITED SERIES
Big Little Lies (HBO)TELEVISION MOVIE
Black Mirror: San Junipero (Netflix)REALITY-COMPETITION PROGRAM
RuPaul’s Drag Race (VH1)VARIETY TALK SERIES
Last Week Tonight With John Oliver (HBO)VARIETY SKETCH SERIES
Saturday Night Live (NBC)COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Jeffrey Tambor as Maura Pfefferman, Transparent (Amazon)DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Sterling K. Brown as Randall Pearson, This Is Us (NBC)LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE LEAD ACTOR
Riz Ahmed as Nasir “Naz” Khan, The Night Of (HBO)COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer, Veep (HBO)DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Elisabeth Moss as Offred, The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE LEAD ACTRESS
Nicole Kidman as Celeste Wright, Big Little Lies (HBO)COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Alec Baldwin as Donald Trump, Saturday Night Live (NBC)DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
John Lithgow as Winston Churchill, The Crown (Netflix)LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Kenneth Williams as Freddy Knight, The Night Of (HBO)COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Judith Light as Shelley Pfefferman, Transparent (Amazon)DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven, Stranger Things (Netflix)LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Dern as Renata Klein, Big Little Lies (HBO)COMEDY DIRECTING
Donald Glover, Atlanta (FX) [“B.A.N.”]DRAMA DIRECTING
The Duffer Brothers, Stranger Things (Netflix) [“Chapter One: The Vanishing Of Will Byers”]LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE DIRECTING
Steven Zaillian, The Night Of (HBO) [“The Beach”]VARIETY DIRECTING
Don Roy King, Saturday Night Live (NBC) [“Jimmy Fallon”]COMEDY WRITING
Aziz Ansari and Lena Waithe, Master of None (Netflix) [“Thanksgiving”]DRAMA WRITING
Bruce Miller, The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu) [“Offred (Pilot)”]LIMITED SERIES/MOVIE WRITING
David E. Kelley, Big Little Lies (HBO)VARIETY WRITING
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Last Week Tonight With John Oliver (HBO)September 12, 2017 at 4:35 pm #1202211251Sunday’s chat was my first slugfest in four years! I last chatted with Tom O’Neil, Marcus Dixon et al. in 2013 after the Breaking Bad finale.
It was an absolute blast. Thanks to Matt Noble and Amanda Spears for an amazing chat. Hopefully I’ll be on many more to come.
ReplyAugust 25, 2017 at 5:26 am #1202194740Thanks guys! It’s all in good fun and indeed very subjective. I was actually surprised by how much I still love many of these films.
ReplyAugust 16, 2017 at 9:08 am #1202186884And finally…
Anthony Anderson, black-ish — Martin Lawrence
Aziz Ansari, Master of None — Kal Penn
Zach Galifianakis, Baskets — Jack Black
Donald Glover, Atlanta — Kid Cudi
William H. Macy, Shameless — Steve Buscemi
Jeffrey Tambor, Transparent — Frank LangellaPamela Adlon, Better Things — Janeane Garofalo
Jane Fonda, Grace and Frankie — Candice Bergen
Allison Janney, Mom — Katey Sagal
Ellie Kemper, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt — Abby Elliott
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Veep — Catherine O’Hara
Tracee Ellis Ross, black-ish — Maya Rudolph
Lily Tomlin, Grace and Frankie — Vicki LawrenceLouie Anderson, Baskets — Richard Kind
Alec Baldwin, Saturday Night Live — Anthony Atamanuik
Tituss Burgess, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt — Billy Porter
Ty Burrell, Modern Family — Kyle Bornheimer
Tony Hale, Veep — Thomas Lennon
Matt Walsh, Veep — Andy RichterVanessa Bayer, Saturday Night Live — N/A
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Anna Chlumsky, Veep — Judy Greer
Kathryn Hahn, Transparent — Jenna Fischer
Leslie Jones, Saturday Night Live — N/A
Judith Light, Transparent — Andrea Martin
Kate McKinnon, Saturday Night Live — N/AAugust 15, 2017 at 5:08 pm #1202186199My latest picks.
Riz Ahmed, The Night Of — Rami Malek
Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock: The Lying Detective — Tom Hiddleston
Robert De Niro, The Wizard of Lies — William Hurt
Ewan McGregor, Fargo — Jon Hamm
Geoffrey Rush, Genius — Tom Wilkinson
John Turturro, The Night Of — Michael ImperioliCarrie Coon, Fargo — Kim Dickens
Felicity Huffman, American Crime — Christine Lahti
Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies — Robin Wright
Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan — Cybill Shepherd
Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan — Blythe Danner
Reese Witherspoon, Big Little Lies — Jennifer AnistonBill Camp, The Night Of — William Fichtner
Alfred Molina, Feud: Bette and Joan — Oliver Platt
Alexander Skarsgård, Big Little Lies — Guy Pearce
David Thewlis, Fargo — Timothy Spall
Stanley Tucci, Feud: Bette and Joan — Bryan Cranston
Michael Kenneth Williams, The Night Of — Mahershala AliJudy Davis, Feud: Bette and Joan — Patricia Clarkson
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Laura Dern, Big Little Lies — Gwyneth Paltrow
Jackie Hoffman, Feud: Bette and Joan — Rhea Perlman
Regina King, American Crime — CCH Pounder
Michelle Pfeiffer, The Wizard of Lies — Diane Keaton
Shailene Woodley, Big Little Lies — Greta GerwigAugust 4, 2017 at 6:00 am #1202174400This Is Us feels like the likeliest choice here. It feels like an Empire situation, where a network show is a huge breakout and then for Season 2 the writers double down on what made it work in Season 1 and it becomes a mess. For Empire they went way over the top with the trashy soap opera angle, and for This Is Us I can easily see them making Season 2 incredibly cheesy and sentimental and tearjerking in the most obvious ways. And then people inevitably turn on the show.
ReplyJuly 22, 2017 at 6:35 am #1202161721Ventimiglia really surprised me — it’s certainly the best performance he’s ever turned in. I’m not as outraged by his nomination as others. But I would still vote for Brown, who is a huge part of what makes this show work, for me.
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