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methaddiction wrote:

Barry is definitely dark but I actually find it funnier than Maisel Hader knows how to pull both off extremely well.

Maisel walks the fluffy heartwarming line. It’s nice to have the variety among the comedies; it’s a great line up this year.

Barry’s humour is subjective I think; it hits a very LOL line for me at the most bizarre moments eg in ronny/lily which is brilliant but they can’t do those moments consistently otherwise they lose their impact.

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Riley wrote:

Regarding A Very English Scandal missing series, the British bloc kind of only exists above the line. Patrick Melrose got series with only writing, directing, actor and casting, which is voted on primarily by directors (and producers). The Honourable Woman got series with only writing, directing and actress. I was predicting A Very English Scandal to get series with only writing, directing, acting and score because I thought that it was undeniable there. I had Sharp Objects missing writing and directing, but still edging out A Very English Scandal in casting, so I thought that series would be close, but would ultimately tip in the latter’s favour. I thought that the crafts would kind of abandon Sharp Objects, but it looks like they actually secured its series nomination, as it got into the design and makeup categories unexpectedly, while A Very English Scandal missed music.

I think Chernobyl took part of the British bloc vote too. It’s a British co-production with a British cast.

And this is another reason why Chernobyl has a good chance at Series; the British/foreign bloc is likely to line up behind it since there’s no alternative.

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Lance wrote:

It would be a travesty if the Emmys snubbed Chernobyl of a Best Limited Series and Lead Actor win for Jared Harris. Harris was snubbed back in 2012 for his supporting performance in Mad Men!

He snub for The Terror stings. It’s one of the most incredible performances matched with great writing that has graced tv in years. There were moments I was watching just for him.

He deserves more lead roles tbh. Mad Men barely scratched what he is capable of.

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forwardswill wrote:

Comments like this are why we rarely get nice things

Especially since the scene that clinched the win was probably that long silent shot on her face as it went through all the emotions during Weisz’s dance scene.

Anyway back to this category, Sian and Fleabag for the win. Hope Amazon pushes both their shows and not just one even though I do enjoy Maisel.

Even Bill Hader called Fleabag the best thing he has watched in ages.

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Guest 2018 wrote:

No; I don’t want blink and you miss it TV honored under ANY circumstances. Emmys can’t be seriously thinking giving its comedy series trophy to a show of such brevity. GoT; they were shoehorned into 6 episodes. That’s one thing. It’s quite the other when a show VOLUNTEERS to be so brief.

There’s only an hour and a half difference in run time between Fleabag Season 2 and TGP season 3.

The arc for every main character in Fleabag is complete and written with depth. I’m baffled how screen time can be held against the show when it develops story arcs fuller than 99% of other shows.

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HornellaC wrote:

So nobody is gonna expose the fact that Olivia Colman got in for a nothing performance ?

This was just post-Oscar name check!

This is a joke right. She’s the main antagonist of the series and gives a masterclass in passive aggressiveness. She doesn’t waste a single second of her screentime and her comedic timing is exquisite. That beat she takes to throw a look of furious contempt when she notices that Fleabag and Hot Priest were bonding during the dinner scene is a marvel.

Sian Clifford is brilliant as well with a role that is written with more depth since the main love story is actually between Fleabag and Claire.

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The noms clearly show voters voted for things they watched (eg GOT) – far less name checking this year.

On the comedy side, the fact that Sian Clifford got in means the Academy is clearly watching Fleabag, along with Barry, Maisel and Russian Doll, and a passionate fanbase for Schitt’s Creek.

The rest are fillers imo, including Veep surprisingly.

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Chernobyl has across the board noms ie support so it’s winning Series.

Half of WTSU’s noms are in acting so it probably wins at least 1 acting likely Jerome (still hoping for Harris though).

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The Fleabag and Schitt’s Creek noms omg

SIAN CLIFFORD YES

Maisel vs Barry with Fleabag as a (very strong) dark horse. Those Directing and Cinematography noms for Fleabag wow.

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Tbf it’s reasonable to doubt her clout with Emmy voters since she has yet to break through (same with SAG). Ironically Colman could get away with barely campaigning for the Oscars because British bloc support was so strong but Emmy voter composition appears to be entirely different.

I was just jesting that it feels dejavu-ish to go through the exercise again of justifying why Colman is in a strong position in another award season.

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ginnala wrote:

After drinking champagne all weekend long reading the headlines about Andrea Arnold’s treatment, Olivia Colman is probably shaking seeing Nicole Kidman’s oustanding performance from last night.

Lol how many wins must Colman pull off until she stops being underestimated every award season?

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Excellent list!

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Potatohead wrote:

If everything with the new cast goes well, it’s probably going to go to The Crown. It had a much better second season than any of the other 2017 Emmys shows (Big Little Lies, The Handmaid’s Tale, Killing Eve, Stranger Things, This Is Us, and Westworld), and impressively improved on its first season with wins in cinematography, casting, lead actress, and directing, along with those surprise nominations for Matt Smith and Vanessa Kirby. If one of the new shows coming out this year is a massive hit, then maybe it has a chance. Otherwise, I think the way has been paved for The Crown to win big next year.

Big Little Lies and The Handmaid’s Tale likely have no chance at winning, the former for a season where nothing happens at all and the latter for a season where everything that happens is just awful. Killing Eve has less energy than Big Little Lies and will probably scrape by with a few nominations. This Is Us is just disappearing off the grid, Metz missing out and Hartley not getting in for season 2 was rough. Stranger Things had a great, fun season, and the same might be true for Westworld season 3, but I’m not sure that voters will swoon over non-Game of Thrones genre fare when a historical drama starring Olivia Colman and Helena Bonham Carter is in the race.

Makes sense. Think a win will be dependent on the writing and whether Peter Morgan has burnt out. Also if audiences will be receptive to change in the leads and Margaret.

Colman, HBC, Tobias Menzies, Josh O’Conner and Charles Dance is an insanely stacked and talented cast to waste though.

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And Fleabag season 2’s total run time is 3 hours. Maybe the argument for shorter seasons is because some shows feel like they ages to tell a story.

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Shows with shorter seasons getting more attention is just reflective of current viewership habits. The Academy has no incentive to impose an arbitrary rule based on size of season especially when nobody has the time to watch shows that require investment of more than 6 hours per season. You will just end up with a category of nominees nobody has watched and in turn the award would lose its relevance.

The trend favours storytelling done concisely with exceptional quality. I don’t think anybody can say shows like Barry and Fleabag favour style over substance when they produced some of the best envelope pushing/ risk taking episodes in recent times. This was also the old British television model and that gave us so many tv classics.