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January 12, 2023 at 10:05 pm #1205240555
Jan 11 update, presumably the final one
After this I feel it’s pretty safe to say the aggregate is done, and Severance is the winner with a lead of 6.5 points over Andor (not that that’s doing much for either of them with awards, but honestly this means more to me than any award show).
I was curious about how tight this race was so I went back and looked at the gap between 1st and 2nd place; this is the tightest race since 2011, where Breaking Bad beat Homeland by 5 points. And that was mostly because there were far fewer lists in the aggregate back then.
Other years with a small gap were Killing Eve and Atlanta with in 2018 with 10 points, Twin Peaks and The Ledtovers with 14 points in 2017, and American Crime Story and Atlanta with 14.5 points in 2016 (that surprised me, I always thought ACS was the main critical pick). Kind of interesting after having three years of these enormous critical darlings demolishing the competition. I think really 2022 was just an incredible year with a lot of fantastic shows.
Thanks for all the updates and analysis. Also do think critical performance is fascinating compared to award shows with voting bodies that can be lazy.
Thrilled for Andor reaching second and hopefully more people have time to catch up with it.ReplyJanuary 12, 2023 at 9:42 pm #1205240497
Glad to see Andor picking up guild support – SAG and DGA noms would have been extremely deserving too. Hope with this performance, Disney is convinced to still push it for Emmys even with Mando coming out.ReplyDecember 24, 2022 at 9:16 am #1205208551
Britell’s score for Andor actually becomes the focal point of the whole season – an absolutely brilliant collaboration between him and Tony Gilroy. His score is very much intertwined with the story telling. Glad he’s getting recognition.ReplyDecember 16, 2022 at 7:47 pm #1205198439
Metacritic updated list. New additions: The White Lotus, Stranger Things, This is Going to Hurt, and Somebody Somewhere: https://www.metacritic.com/feature/tv-critics-pick-10-best-tv-shows-of-2022
It’s close, but nice to see Andor up to 3rd place.ReplyDecember 12, 2022 at 4:05 pm #1205191843
I was just starting to trust HBO Max when Zaslav took over…. They had this amazing run in the spring of putting out fun fresh comedies one after another, Julia, Minx, Our Flag Means Death, it was such an exciting time to be watching TV and now I feel like that whole wave is going to get axed
Those shows were greenlit under Jason Kilar’s time. David Jenkins, the OFMD creator, was open about how it would have gotten axed by Zaslav’s team if not for the massive online social engagement the show has. They just wrapped filming today and I’m worried it still gets cancelled after the Minx news.ReplyDecember 12, 2022 at 6:00 am #1205189763
Happy for Diego but him making it in without his show is nonsense. Who the hell thought The Crown was deserving this season.
Skarsgard getting blanked for his performance on Andor is going to annoy me to no end.December 10, 2022 at 7:03 pm #1205186979
No Rhys Darby and Taika Waititi either 🙁ReplyDecember 10, 2022 at 4:37 am #1205186189
The Best TV Performances of 2022: Pairs Edition https://t.co/DZMZBDAWPZ
— Variety (@Variety) December 7, 2022
Didn’t see this posted. Not ranked – love the Stellan and Diego shout out, they actually really only had max 3 scenes together and made the most of it (same as Diego and Fiona)
– Sheryl Lee Ralph and Lisa Ann Walter (Abbott Elementary, ABC)
– Sara Ramírez and Cynthia Nixon (And Just Like That, HBO Max)
– Diego Luna and Stellan Skarsgård (Andor, Disney+)
– Claes Bang and Anne-Marie Duff (Bad Sisters, Apple+)
– Jeremy Allen White and Ayo Edebiri (The Bear, FX on Hulu)
– Jonathan Bailey and Simone Ashley (Bridgerton, Netflix)
– Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini (Dead to Me, Netflix)
– Amanda Seyfried and Naveen Andrews (The Dropout, Hulu)
– Carrie Coon and Morgan Spector (The Gilded Age, HBO)
– Jean Smart and Hannah Einbinder (Hacks, HBO Max)
– Jacob Anderson and Sam Reid (Interview with the Vampire, AMC)
– Cristin Milioti and William Jackson Harper (The Resort, Peacock)
– Morfydd Clark and Charlie Vickers (The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, Amazon Prime Video)
– Bridget Everett and Jeff Hiller (Somebody Somewhere, HBO Max)
– Harvey Guillén and Kayvan Novak (What We Do In the Shadows, FX)ReplyDecember 9, 2022 at 5:26 pm #1205185850
Final Variety predictions including TV https://variety.com/2022/artisans/awards/golden-globes-nomination-predictions-2023-drama-comedy-musical-1235455975/
I know supporting categories are always a mess cause they consolidate everybody but Skarsgard not making it into that lineup for Andor is making my eye twitch.December 9, 2022 at 5:29 am #1205184839
I will say it’s notable for instance on the Disney side that Ms Marvel – their best reviewed show of the year – doesn’t make it but Andor does – and that Netflix and Hulu (whose programming is oft female led or has a primarily female audience) is almost entirely absent.
Agreed on the general point that this year has less high profile female led shows, but while Andor technically has a male lead, the number of female characters that have actual agency and are not just there to exposition dump do outnumber the men: Mon, Dedra, Maarva, Vel, Cinta, Bix vs Cass, Luthen, Syril. It’s quite an ensemble.ReplyDecember 7, 2022 at 4:19 pm #1205182229
Agreed on Mando being Andor’s main obstacle – Disney may decide to prioritise one over the other for awards but I hope there’s room for Andor in the budget.
I did see a fair few industry folks praising and commenting how much they loved Andor though eg Patton Oswalt, Winston Duke etc so hopefully Andor performs well over the winter award season which provides it with some momentum for the Emmys. Think people are still catching up with it as well over the holidays.December 6, 2022 at 12:12 pm #1205180556
Happy for Andor and Diego Luna, but Stellan Skarsgard and Fiona Shaw missing? 🙁ReplyDecember 6, 2022 at 8:05 am #1205179981
Love Andor having a strong showing so far – hope this translates into some recognition at a major award. I’ve been rewatching and the writing for this is so tight without sacrificing the emotional core that is Cassian and Maarva’s relationship.ReplyDecember 3, 2022 at 5:44 pm #1205177216
So far the overall aggregate consists of shows that would all be in my personal top 10 or shows I haven’t watched. Some of those shows I likely will never watch because of the genre (Andor) or universe fatigue (House of Dragon) and some I just didn’t know existed because of football season (Bad Sisters) and am looking forward to checking out now.
That’s what I thought too and I have zero knowledge about SW! But it turned out to be other types of genres: spy thriller in the vein of Tinker Tailor, heist movie, commentary on prison and institutions, anti-fascist rebellion… all in one! Hope you give it a chance.ReplyDecember 3, 2022 at 7:13 am #1205176671
Andor has a lot of Chernobyl production folks behind it – think it has a good chance to do very well in tech categoriesReplyNot now