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puck05 wrote:

Is it normal that I laugh more to Succession than I watch Barry?

Same; there are genuinely more LOLs in Succession than the comedy nominees except Fleabag and Schitt’s Creek. But it’s not really surprising since Jesse Armstrong did co-write Peep Show and The Thick of It which are funnier than the aforementioned.

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Reis wrote:

“Coup” was a lovely episode, specially Colman performance.

Yes! It’s also an example that if you give her stuff to do she works the hell out of it. Her character comes alive from the banality of her life in the palace when she’s doing something she loves and Colman turns on her charm so easily before her sadness sets in when it has to end. Then her cold fury from the realisation that her fantasy life is well and truly dead was great and capped off with a sweet scene with Philip.

Also the Mountbatten retirement cake always makes me laugh.

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Kit Harrington over Brian Cox is a travesty.

BLL missing even with 3 acting noms and Crudup being the lone Apple+ nominee – poor Reese.

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If Fleabag didn’t exist, it would have been Russian Doll and Nathasha Lyonne winning. Rather be flavour of the moment than no flavour at all.

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sofan wrote:

No, they don’t. A performer that appears in half/more than half of the episodes of a season shouldn’t compete with one or two episode stints.

The principle looks sound but then you end up with a situation like Jared Harris missing a Guest nom for The Crown because he has 2 second scenes in more episodes which disqualified him. And he would have been a very deserving winner in Guest.

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Denis wrote:

I really like Helena Bonham Carter, but Colman just towered over her on that last scene.

I sympathise with HBC because the writing for her Margaret was paper thin by that last scene and very few are better than Colman in doing raw emotional scenes.

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Kevin Klawitter wrote:

I think it goes to a major theme of the season, that Elizabeth and Phillip are older and more comfortable in their roles as royalty. They aren’t butting heads against the institutions, or each other, nearly as much and are more comfortable openly talking about it. Colman and (especially) Menzies are terrific at embodying this new maturity in contrast to Foy and Smith (who were fantastic, but in very different situations).

It’s definitely one of the better and more subtle characterisations/ character growth Morgan wrote and kind of rare to see a functioning middle aged marriage that is a true partnership; particularly liked how it was hinted that she arranged for the astronaut visit and the new priest / therapy session and patiently waited for him to emerge from his midlife crisis, and how they were consistently communicating with each other about their worries and offering advice.

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Potatohead wrote:

I know Philip is a controversial character on The Crown, but can we all agree that it’s nice to see him and Elizabeth happy together? That closing scene of them together in “Coup” was so sweet, I thought.

Olivia and Tobias playing them with that much tenderness was the most unexpected and pleasant surprise of season 3. Relieved that they finally dropped Philip perpetually blaming his woes on her, and they were largely in tune with and actively attentive to each other. The number of small scenes where it was just them hanging out with each other with their corgis with no children in sight lol.

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estrelasdealgeruz wrote:

I don’t want so sound repetitive but In the article no one mentions Helena. Not once. The article and people in the comments mentioned the cast and only Olivia.

Also don’t think quoting The Sun, Daily Mail and .. Facebook comments as basis for predictions is the most advisable move but to each his own.

Guess pressure is off Colman as frontrunner based on this thread! Which is fine by me; been rewatching her scenes and maintain that it’s a fantastic performance and win worthy.

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Ryan Showers wrote:

I’m enjoying this season, and I think Colman and Carter are both solid in these roles. They are thriving. Yet, I agree with some users above. There are episodes where Colman doesn’t even feel like the protagonist, like Foy did at times. And as a comparison, I think I prefer Foy to Colman so far.

I don’t know why, but Big Little Lies has seemed to exit the good graces of the Internet, probably bad buzz post-Andrea Arnold revelations. After seeing the first six episodes of The Crown, there’s no question that what Kidman does in the last two episodes of season two exceeds what Colman does here, far and wide. And what Streep and Dern do easily outshines Carter. However, I feel like the cultural zeitgeist is so drawn to these particular actors in these particular roles. Colman has the “it” factor having just won the Oscar and, on paper, Carter is a perfect match for Margaret. It’s a shame. Maybe Big Little Lies aired too early to compete for wins. After seeing this season in practice, I feel reputation is driving the buzz behind Colman and Carter.

Suggest to watch the last 2 episodes to see if you still hold that opinion. Those belonged to Colman and Carter and was more moving on a personal level for me than Aberfan and Margaretology as excellent a showcase as those episode were.

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Hopefully more people will be interested to check out The Terror now because Menzies is terrific in it and fantastic with another Crown alum, Jared Harris!!

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Finished the season; was always supporting her as a fan but I REALLY want her to win it now after her last scenes with Harold Wilson and Margaret, she was incredible. Teared during the latter scene, Olivia and HBC are powerhouses together.

The last 2 eps formed a really strong finish – loved Imbroglio when the whole family was together (and Anne gets to be an absolute star!) – it’s a fantastic ensemble and they deserve SAG honestly (can they share it with the Succession cast I love both).

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Hinrich689 wrote:

While Olivia is not in the entire episode, I do think that Aberfan is enough to give her a win. Her performance is subtle but outstanding, and it’s one of the best episodes in the entire series.

Just finished ep 9 and think I’ve gotten more used to her disappearing for most of the episode and then waltzing in for 5 minutes and delivering an increasingly colder Queen especially after Coup when she finally realises she has to kill any remaining part of her that fantasizes an alternative life: her ruthlessness to Charles to prepare him for the same, her dressing down of Mountbatten, her fury at Heath…there is a subtle arc she creates from the insecurities earlier in the season (losing a father figure in Churchill and her sister’s success), but she’s so STILL by ep 9 (and all the comic shades have been stamped out) – seems like it functions as a setup for the faceoffs with Thatcher and Diana next season.

Ivo Stoyanov wrote:

Well, we have the first controversy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7693531/The-Crown-leaves-viewers-furious-Queen-shown-faking-tears-Aberfan-coal-tip-tragedy.html

Nah DM and the comments have been hating her since she won her Oscar, classifies her as a luvvie like Emma Thompson.

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methaddiction wrote:

I don’t think anyone will ever be able to top what Claire Foy did she became Queen Elizabeth. Olivia is great but it is hard to look at her and not think “hey that’s Olivia Colman”.

I wouldn’t disagree regarding the added burden of baggage – Foy came into this role as a relative unknown and could start on a blank slate. Colman has a very unenviable job of either copying her to a T (which seems soul crushing for any artist) or doing her own interpretation.

I bristle a bit at the Colman is doing Colman comments earlier in the thread because I think it’s lazy criticism and quite unfair eg Godmother is very different from her QEII.

babypook wrote:

It sounds like it’s not quite up to the quality of previous seasons.

I honestly can’t quite remember much of the previous seasons except the Beryl episode and Edward’s Nazi-friendliness reveal episode. But I find the episodes that to be a lot more engaging this season and I’m only half way through. May be due to there being a lot less whiny Philip.

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Tyler wrote:

this was my biggest thought after episode 1, and I wonder if it’s something Colman will grow in to or if she’s just playing the Queen differently. I don’t remember ever seeing Foy smile like Colman did.

I suspect it is in part due to Colman’s interpretation cause she has made comments that the Queen is a hoot in private based on research. But it also could be part of a slight character arc she tries to give to Elizabeth over the season given how it develops.

This season is really hitting on Elizabeth is most effective at her role cause she does nothing, so she’s never the protagonist but instead most plots end up leading back to how the surrounding characters exploits affect her. I don’t know if this hurts her chances – Claire at least had the plot of having to figure out her marriage and how to become Queen, but since those are settled, all Colman is left with is making sure her household doesn’t break out of their cage.

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